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Has "Adrian Dittman" said anything lately or is Elmo too busy plundering our Treasury?
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That's how he ran his own companies. Every so often shed a bunch of the worst performers and if it turns out they were needed after all, rehire some fresh blood. It's not a bad way to keep a company lean and efficient, but as you pointed out, the incentives he gives federal employees drive out the best, not the worst. He also has no concern for whether there needs to be any shedding and no way to evaluate that. It also doesn't really matter that much if a company department temporarily underperforms slightly, but if a vital government agency is understaffed and staffed with only the deadwood losers, people's lives can get messed up easily and it's difficult to reverse that brain drain.we can just re-add anything that proves to be necessary which is an utterly deranged ketamine brained take.
Fuck the feds (glowies) but not the average office worker dude, they are typically just normal ass people doing tedious work, they do not deserve to get shat on with the same brush glowies do.I can understand why people are glazing his anti-fed worker terrorism because fuck feds, but the entire thing is ill conceived. There are probably six figures of useless federal workers but the bureaucracy has been roughly static in size since at around 3 million plus or minus ~200k or so 1970, when the country had 200 million people. We've added another 150 million since then. The federal budget/government bloat problem has almost nothing to do with the federal workforce. Federal compensation is overall lower than private sector compensation and the most talented and useful federal workers actually have great options in the private sector. Total non military compensation is around $280 billion. Expenditures last year were about $6.8 trillion and the deficit was $1.8 trillion. So even if you cut costs by half it would hardly make a dent. The fact that they're even gloating over items in the millions or hundreds of thousands that they cut costs on is almost embarrassingly stupid.
Trying to clear cut the federal workforce is going to push out a bunch of people near retirement or who have opportunities in the private sector due to having high skills or good working knowledge of regulations. It won't displace the most useless and laziest workers. And it won't actually change the laws and regulations. What we'll end up with is the same regulatory bloat with only the least experienced, stupidest and laziest people left to enforce the law.
I think people claiming it's a constitutional crisis are being a little hysterical but they're torching a massive amount of political capital over what amounts to rearranging deck chairs and probably making the country a worse place. Elon recently mentioned he wanted to just act like laws don't exist at all because we can just re-add anything that proves to be necessary which is an utterly deranged ketamine brained take.
Elon thinks software works that way. His idea of optimizing code is to delete shit until it no longer works.That's how he ran his own companies. Every so often shed a bunch of the worst performers and if it turns out they were needed after all, rehire some fresh blood. It's not a bad way to keep a company lean and efficient, but as you pointed out, the incentives he gives federal employees drive out the best, not the worst. He also has no concern for whether there needs to be any shedding and no way to evaluate that. It also doesn't really matter that much if a company department temporarily underperforms slightly, but if a vital government agency is understaffed and staffed with only the deadwood losers, people's lives can get messed up easily and it's difficult to reverse that brain drain.
Another thing to add is that the Trump administration demonizes federal employees to an insane degree, paints them as literal devil leeches that want you dead, and occasionally singles out individuals by name to smear them in front of the entire country, usually with made up bullshit, but the followers eat it up. In addition to that, every boring job now gets politicised and commissars crawl around to sniff out wrong-think.
That doesn't exactly make those workplaces attractive to ambitious and competent people.
Dude, computers. That's why it didn't grow. Because they just threw tech at it, like anyone.I can understand why people are glazing his anti-fed worker terrorism because fuck feds, but the entire thing is ill conceived. There are probably six figures of useless federal workers but the bureaucracy has been roughly static in size since at around 3 million plus or minus ~200k or so 1970, when the country had 200 million people. We've added another 150 million since then.
You are absolutely right here, there might be cases where you actually want to do that, but you can't pause the world's largest empire for a little update. It basically is a coup d'etat at this point, it's really sly and non-violent, but it is what it is.Elon thinks software works that way. His idea of optimizing code is to delete shit until it no longer works.
Anyone who knows anything about software knows why this is a terrible idea that leads to really bad shit down the line, but Elon is a retard
Also, it's not like fed workers make that much money. They would make way more in the private sector. These are just regular people, who are underpaid, trying to make ends meet. Their wages are not even a drop in the bucket as far as fed spending goes.Dude, computers. That's why it didn't grow. Because they just threw tech at it, like anyone.
My old man worked in construction, they still had "computers", meaning a whole floors of ladies with crank-handle calculators. By the end of the 70s, suddenly, those kinds of jobs rapidly evaporated.
But it's not only that, you really can just do exponentially more with microcomputers:
For example you can manage a lot more people.
And private contractors like his compan- oh wait.If he really wanted to lessen spending, he'd look at the military.
I might be over-egging it a bit, but I keep getting this “fall of the Soviet Union” feeling. As in, everything valuable about the state is going to be divided up and gifted to a few favored oligarchs. The government is effectively finished, there will be no laws, no regulations, nobody to enforce anything, you’ll still have police to deal with petty crime and murders and shit but they’ll be paid for by corporations so only applicable to the little guy.I think people claiming it's a constitutional crisis are being a little hysterical but they're torching a massive amount of political capital over what amounts to rearranging deck chairs and probably making the country a worse place. Elon recently mentioned he wanted to just act like laws don't exist at all because we can just re-add anything that proves to be necessary which is an utterly deranged ketamine brained take.
people here would unironically give up their rights to own the troons.I might be over-egging it a bit, but I keep getting this “fall of the Soviet Union” feeling. As in, everything valuable about the state is going to be divided up and gifted to a few favored oligarchs. The government is effectively finished, there will be no laws, no regulations, nobody to enforce anything, you’ll still have police to deal with petty crime and murders and shit but they’ll be paid for by corporations so only applicable to the little guy.
Back in ‘90s the valuable stuff was oil rights, minerals and aluminium factories, now it’s oil rights, minerals and big data.
I bet national parks and forests are fully on the menu too.
Bit of a sad time if you’re a patriotic type.
But hey they got rid of those three tranny boxers or whatever so that justifies everything else.
A bad Wall Street report is not enogh to fuck Elon over. At best it's going to leave a small dent in his stocks. A similar thing happened after some bad sustainability reports a couple of years ago.I'm starting to see evidence that Wall Street is getting really sick of Elon and his shenanigans, both outside and inside the company. Keep an eye out for some very negative research reports in the next few weeks.
people in this thread straight up admitted they would be ok with being pulled out of their own homes and being rendered homeless if it dealt with the troon issue.people here would unironically give up their rights to own the troons.
Actually I take it back defending elon isnt the last stage of cucking THIS IS LMAO HAHAHAH YOU BEING FR PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT?people in this thread straight up admitted they would be ok with being pulled out of their own homes and being rendered homeless if it dealt with the troon issue.
elon is fucking crazy and doing damage to us all but at least it is funny. until it start affecting us directly...
Most of that is farmed out to 3rd parties. I should know because reasons.If he really wanted to lessen spending, he'd look at the military.
to be fair a huge reason for that is that the "serious people" were guys like Jeb Bush, Mccain, and Mitt Romney who clearly fucking hated america but because they knew how to "act like a politican" retards like @Doctor of Autism loved themall the serious people that actually want to help are sidelined in favor of clowns
Yes, and those people aren't going to come back. Once you leave government service and break the power your consecutive years of service grant you, you probably aren't going to be interested in restarting that in your 40s or 50s.Trying to clear cut the federal workforce is going to push out a bunch of people near retirement or who have opportunities in the private sector due to having high skills or good working knowledge of regulations. It won't displace the most useless and laziest workers. And it won't actually change the laws and regulations. What we'll end up with is the same regulatory bloat with only the least experienced, stupidest and laziest people left to enforce the law.
Nah they're not serious people either.to be fair a huge reason for that is that the "serious people" were guys like Jeb Bush, Mccain, and Mitt Romney who clearly fucking hated america but because they knew how to "act like a politican" retards like @Doctor of Autism loved them
the problem is the people who wrote the instructions are all dead, the workers are all lazy niggers or trannies like Keffals (who we all know you just love) and whats actually implemented has nothing to do with the instructions because "fuck it, they can't fire me" And the government still hires people like its the 1950s and you need a real human being to spend hours copying things by hand instead of sending thousands of PDFs through an email or slack channel.Talk to the people who wrote the instructions, talk to the workers who use them, see what is actually implemented and what only exists on paper, and why that is the case. Ask for suggestions from those who do the actual work, and keep going back to them to check what they think the effects of potential changes might be to find unintended side effects before things go live.