Trans doctor left 'upset and afraid' by nurse

A transgender doctor was left feeling "distressed" and "afraid" after being told by a nurse not to use the women's changing rooms at work, an employment tribunal has heard.

Dr Beth Upton - a trans woman - described being confronted by Sandie Peggie on Christmas Eve 2023, who was said to have stated that "a man couldn't be in the changing room" at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy.

Dr Upton told the tribunal the incident was "quite scary".

Ms Peggie was suspended by NHS Fife in January 2024 pending an investigation after she argued that sharing the changing room with Dr Upton amounted to unlawful harassment under the Equality Act.

Dr Uptons began gender transition in January 2022, uses the pronouns she/her, and had been "fully out in all aspects of my life" since August 2022, including at work.

The medic said an NHS manager had agreed that "as my identity is as a woman, that I should use the women's changing facilities."

Dr Upton said there had been three previous incidents with Ms Peggie where the nurse indicated that "she didn't want to be in the same space I was in", before being confronted by her on Christmas Eve.

Dr Upton had completed a shift and went to the changing rooms with two colleagues, before Ms Peggie later walked in.

After the other staff members left the room, Ms Peggie said it was "inappropriate" for Dr Upton to be in the women's changing room and that she felt intimidated as a result.

Ms Peggie then made a remark which Dr Upton took to be a comparison to the case of Isla Bryson, a transgender rapist who attacked two women while known as Adam Graham and was initially remanded to a women's prison.

Dr Upton told the tribunal that Ms Peggie had also "asked me what my chromosomes were" and that other staff members were also uncomfortable with the doctor using the female changing room.

Dr Upton added: "I felt really distressed, really awful. I've never had somebody say things like that to me before."

Dr Upton said the comments from Ms Peggie were "very hurtful" and based on "misinformation" about trans people and that her comments had been hurtful and demeaning".

The doctor added: "It was deeply uncomfortable and upsetting to have somebody saying such unpleasant and accusatory things to you. I felt unsafe and upset."

After the incident Dr Upton burst into tears before speaking to a senior colleague, who had been understanding and offered support.

The doctor returned to work on 28 December, but was "quite anxious and nervous" about doing so due to the incident with Ms Peggie.

Dr Upton had planned to arrive at work with a female colleague, but the colleague was late due to problems with trains.

Dr Upton therefore went into the changing room alone - before Ms Peggie walked out of a cubicle.

The doctor immediately left and "took refuge" in the hospital plaster room, where crutches and other physio equipment is held, before getting changed in a bathroom.

Dr Upton later spoke to a senior colleague and reported being bullied for being trans.

It was agreed that the incident would be recorded on the NHS's Datix system, which is used by staff to raise concerns.

It was also agreed that Dr Upton would draft a separate complaint about the incident on Christmas Eve.

Dr Upton said previous incidents with Ms Peggie had escalated to a stage where it "had the potential to impact care" of patients.

Dr Upton cited an incident on 18 December, where a young child was brought in.

The tribunal was told Ms Peggie refused to acknowledge or look at Dr Upton when discussing the patient.

Dr Upton said: "You need to be able to talk to each other, to communicate with each other. You need to be able to rely on the people in your team.

"It makes doing my job very difficult and impacts the patient's overall care."

The doctor described earlier incidents where Ms Peggie had left the changing room when Dr Upton entered.

This left Dr Upton feeling "saddened" and "unfairly judged", but not wanting to put in a formal complaint to avoid making a fuss.

The doctor's gender identity had otherwise been "respected" by colleagues, the tribunal was told.

The tribunal continues.

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The doctor described earlier incidents where Ms Peggie had left the changing room when Dr Upton entered.

This left Dr Upton feeling "saddened" and "unfairly judged", but not wanting to put in a formal complaint to avoid making a fuss.
This is not the first time we’ve seen this. The woman politely and quietly leaves the room, and the man has a chimp out because the fetish only works with an audience. She must be forced to participate.
This is what I mean when I say that trannies recast words and normal actions as violence just so they can have a violent response to it. A woman just leaving the room is completely non violent. He wants to have a violent response, but he knows that’s not going to be allowed. But hmmm…. If he recasts her not being in there with him as a violent act, he gets to smash her head in, the bitch!
This is exactly how domestic and other abusers work. It’s ’look what you made me do.’
I am very glad Ms. Peggie stood up to this freak and won her case. Brava, Madame! We need more like you
 
Doctors tend to have their own stations, so I'm sure he doesn't need to change in front of the nurses. It just happens that the nurses are more likely to have less power than female doctors and they can't sue or protest.

99% of all news stories involving trannies can be summarized by: Tranny left shaken and fearful after hearing the word "No".
By women, specifically.
 
I am very glad Ms. Peggie stood up to this freak and won her case. Brava, Madame! We need more like you
She hasn't won anything yet. This is reporting from what was said at the tribunal today.

The guy is obviously a chancer. In his testimony he described 'making a note on his phone' of her just being stood outside the changing room. His ridiculous, confected hyperbole as he describes the effect of a woman saying 'no' to him. The most bizarre claim was that 'he knows how she feels' because he's had 'hands placed on his knee' and been catcalled. All bullshit. There's a reason why this cunt doesn't want his face photographed.

He's regurgitating troonspeak like an llm trained on 2022 twitter. But he's not stupid: he's played the game, trolled the woman and I'm not sure he's going to lose this, especially as it's in Scotland.

He's getting cross examined tomorrow by the nurse's barrister, which should make for some amusing content. I expect he'll break down in the court room and try to avoid difficult questions with revealing answers.
 
Dr Upton told the tribunal that Ms Peggie had also "asked me what my chromosomes were"
Bit worrying that a doctor can't answer this basic biological question.
Dr Upton said previous incidents with Ms Peggie had escalated to a stage where it "had the potential to impact care" of patients.

Dr Upton cited an incident on 18 December, where a young child was brought in.
The tranny's presence is impacting care. I simply would not allow a tranny doctor to examine my child, to do so would be neglect of the most serious kind.
 
Questions I'd like the barrister to ask;

They've earlier said there are other transmen and transwomen working at the same trust. What arrangements have been made for the transmen. Are they obliged to use the men's changing room or are they allowed to continue using the women's.

NHS fife claims the troon's 'sex and gender are female' - I'd want to explore what they mean by sex and at what point a transgender person's sex changes.

The doctor said he 'changed into jeans'. Ask him what size they were. The answer a man and a woman give is very different.
 
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