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Can someone give me the steal-man for gutting/getting rid of the Department Of Education? It seems like every problem that is causing lackluster metrics in U.S. education can directly be tied to things that yes, aren't due to a LACK of funding (black people) but getting rid of it just seems retarded.


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Education is funded in the US at the local level via property taxes. The parents and community of the school have direct influence on how their children are taught. State governments facilitate school districts and wider curriculum. The Federal Government doesn't need to involve itself in education, and up until 1970 when Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education, it didn't. Additionally, the federal DoE is a source of woke faggotry infecting school education. Top-down forced indoctrination is not the American way of doing things.
 
Do you understand what "necessary but insufficient condition" means? Your response suggests you don't. Read that phrase carefully and consider how each word imparts meaning to it.

Thought you missed the point behind the below portion, so I was re-emphasizing it. Especially since it kinda flows with your first response.

completely ignoring what work was put in at ages 18-23.
 
Can someone give me the steal-man for gutting/getting rid of the Department Of Education? It seems like every problem that is causing lackluster metrics in U.S. education can directly be tied to things that yes, aren't due to a LACK of funding (black people) but getting rid of it just seems retarded.


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White schools can use a more advanced curriculum, instead of using the mandated one made for niggers.
 
Can someone give me the steal-man for gutting/getting rid of the Department Of Education? It seems like every problem that is causing lackluster metrics in U.S. education can directly be tied to things that yes, aren't due to a LACK of funding (black people) but getting rid of it just seems retarded.


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Education is in no way an enumerated power or area of authority of the federal government. Establishing the department of education, taking money from the states to fund it, and enabling the federal government to control and give conditions for that funding expands federal powers significantly outside of its intended authority.

This has been used and abused by both parties typically taking the form of do what we want or we cut all your funding. It is an explicit method of getting around constitutionality by extorting the state instead of "forcing" them to do something.

At best, it acts as a supplement to SNAP to give lower income kids food while at school. That can be done in a significantly more efficient manner or just collect less taxes from the state and let them do it. Other concerns such as coordinating college requirements for incoming freshmen can be done between states that share significant overlap.
 
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but getting rid of it just seems retarded.
Why does it seem retarded? Is education in the United States drastically better today than it was in 1980? Is there any evidence that the federal government's intervention is so necessary or beneficial for students across the country?

Your rationale so far is just "it exists now, therefore it should continue to exist".
 
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Can someone give me the steal-man for gutting/getting rid of the Department Of Education? It seems like every problem that is causing lackluster metrics in U.S. education can directly be tied to things that yes, aren't due to a LACK of funding (black people) but getting rid of it just seems retarded.


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The Dept. of Education gives a bad actors like the Democrat party the means to push agendas like common core and trans acceptance to our children. Retarded reddit brains will try to articulate that eliminating the DoE=eliminating education, but the institution was a President Carter project where the feds control the curriculum and has lead to schools dumbing down material for several generations until schools now are a complex daycare where the core classes are the Holocaust, American slavery and LGBT rights.
 
...should DOGE be yelling at the 80 year old computer programmers? They're prolly the only folks in the entire government literate in Fortran (and other programming-language equivalents to cuneiform). I.e. the programming languages all our critical nuclear programs and Cold War-era defense sh!t are written in.
 
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...should DOGE be yelling at the 80 year old computer programmers? They're prolly the only folks in the entire government literate in Fortran (and other programming-language equivalents to cuneiform). I.e. programming languages all our critical nuclear programs and sh!t are written in.
I don't know what was the guy doing?
 
Thought you missed the point behind the below portion, so I was re-emphasizing it. Especially since it kinda flows with your first response.

No, it doesn't. I'll put it in different terms.

Living in the USA is a necessary but insufficient condition for living in Montana.

Your objection was equivalent to saying, "But what if someone has lived in the USA for 80 years, but has lived only in California? Would you assume they live in Montana?"

The reason 25-year-olds aren't fit for leadership in large organizations is you need the kind of wisdom that only comes from experience to lead. Leading is about relationships and experience, and those are things that require time to accrue. They aren't a function of raw talent and IQ. It's the same reason why you rarely see teams full of rookies win championships. Remember, Michael Jordan's best-in-history 1986 season and record-setting postseason game ended with getting swept by Larry Bird and the Celtics. Or look at how the Civil War was mostly decided by vets of the War With Mexico (Sherman being a notable exception).
 
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No, it doesn't. I'll put it in different terms.

Living in the USA is a necessary but insufficient condition for living in Montana.

Your objection was equivalent to saying, "But what if someone has lived in the USA for 80 years, but has lived only in California? Would you assume they live in Montana?"

The reason 25-year-olds aren't fit for leadership in large organizations is you need the kind of wisdom that only comes from experience to lead. Leading is about relationships and experience, and those are things that require time to accrue. They aren't a function of raw talent and IQ. It's the same reason why you rarely see teams full of rookies win championships. Remember, Michael Jordan's best-in-history 1986 season and record-setting postseason game ended with getting swept by Larry Bird and the Celtics.
Yeah, but try telling that to that uppity fucker Alexander the Great. Goddamned whippersnappers.
 
...should DOGE be yelling at the 80 year old computer programmers? They're prolly the only folks in the entire government literate in Fortran (and other programming-language equivalents to cuneiform). I.e. the programming languages all our critical nuclear programs and Cold War-era defense sh!t are written in.
The workers DOGE is yelling at are probably boomer office workers whose jobs consist of literally cutting checks and then shredding the check stubs. So yes. Yell louder even.
 
ATTENTION DOOMERS:

You are retarded. Your accounts have been marked. You will be deported. No, I don’t care if you’re a U.S. citizen. You are still going into the crystal.
No they have to be marched in burger suits across the country as penance for their sin of being depressing faggots to be around.
 
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