Bigot Brigade Something Awful and Friends - The roller-coaster train-wreck embarrassing downfall of a Web 1.0 giant and its tick offspring like from Cloverfield

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That was a problem even in the Lowtax days. People would contribute to Photoshop Phriday and other group goon activities in the hopes of getting on the front page. It wasn't a huge incentive but it was enough for people to put a bit of effort in.

But then when Lowtax started getting seriously into drugs he stopped bothering, and anything great created on the forums would stay there and not gain an audience outside the thread it was created in. I remember in about 2017 making a big effort for some art contest thingy and there was some amazing art created, but Lowtax never bothered to either feature the best of it or delegate it to someone else. By the time Bogan took over the front page in 2019 it hadn't been updated in over three years.

What made SA different to any other forum was its capacity to create amazing and/or popular things that took on a life outside the forum. Let's Play, Slenderman, All Your Base and all the incredible stories from within the threads would take over the internet and sometimes popular culture. That didn't happen on Fark or eBaumsworld. Fuck, it doesn't happen all that often on Reddit and it happened even less back then. "There's a front page?" was a meme but its effect was underestimated, because it was the interface point between goons and the wider internet, and when it died, SA just became another forum, but worse because it was owned by a drug addict and moderated by sex offenders.

Now let's get things clarified before I start my yells-at-cloud post:
First, the internet has changed and doesn't support the sort of ecosystem of users that it did when SA was coming up
Second, SA had been declining long before the death spiral started.

You are right that SA used to promote content, but the death of SA started in 2008 when they banned everyone to the right of Mao, and solidified in 2011ish with the Tumblr invasion.

The issue was that content creators didn't hew to right-think standards nor brownnose mods. Look at the best PSF threads; how many users are perma/banned? How many still bother to post. The Mods were happy to cultivate their own little simp packs.

They never invented a reason for people who create content to stay on the site and deal with the moderation instead of going anywhere else.
worse than that, it incentivized the mods to chase off creative/funny posters because those posters competed with them for popularity.
 
Huh i was thinking about the BFC sub forum and how they went ballistic about land lords.

That is the exact sort of thing that finished the death of the forum. Mod Pets would go invade a Subforum that didn't get involved in forum drama and inside twelve months anyone who objecting to the forum now being about Trans*rights was banned and chased off. This was a death spiral of not only did people who didn't want to Kowtow to mentally ill trannies and their pedophile jannie protectors get chased off, but because that place is no not having good "shop talk", new peopel with interesting and outside perspectives aren't showing up and bringing in new blood.
 
That is the exact sort of thing that finished the death of the forum. Mod Pets would go invade a Subforum that didn't get involved in forum drama and inside twelve months anyone who objecting to the forum now being about Trans*rights was banned and chased off. This was a death spiral of not only did people who didn't want to Kowtow to mentally ill trannies and their pedophile jannie protectors get chased off, but because that place is no not having good "shop talk", new peopel with interesting and outside perspectives aren't showing up and bringing in new blood.
Part of the downwards spiral was certain groups/posters openly creating ops and pre-fabbing 'off the cuff' snarky responses, among other things, in LF as part of their raids into other parts of the forum. If one of their posters got in trouble, meaning someone casually poked holes in their current bullshit political ideas, they would workshop that posters perfect snarky response. Openly. Until some people noticed the ma'ams behind the curtain. Then they went off to discord or something.
The cat-ladies were at least smart enough to do the same kind shit off-site from the start. I guess this shows the amount of protection and hubris LF-posters had.
 
This is probably late but I come up to real old threads and now I'm getting the message that I gotta pay 10 bucks to see old threads...and 10 more bucks just to even get an account.
 
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This is probably late but I come up to real old threads and now I'm getting the message that I gotta pay 10 bucks to see old threads...and 10 more bucks just to even get an account.
The excuses for this being a thing were always fascinating. I can remember Lowtax and Radium and every other mod talking about how they "had" to charge an extra $10 for reading the archives "because the forums are coded poorly, and we have hundreds of thousands of members, and if all of those members tried to access old posts at the same time the site would crash!".

Which might be true but uh....you had at most a couple thousand users active at the same time, and out of those couple thousand probably less than 1% of them were actively looking at ancient indexed threads. It would be like imagining most of reddit's traffic was going to old posts and not the new slop being shoveled out constantly

Goons couldn't think critically from the beginning.
 
The excuses for this being a thing were always fascinating. I can remember Lowtax and Radium and every other mod talking about how they "had" to charge an extra $10 for reading the archives "because the forums are coded poorly, and we have hundreds of thousands of members, and if all of those members tried to access old posts at the same time the site would crash!".

Which might be true but uh....you had at most a couple thousand users active at the same time, and out of those couple thousand probably less than 1% of them were actively looking at ancient indexed threads. It would be like imagining most of reddit's traffic was going to old posts and not the new slop being shoveled out constantly

Goons couldn't think critically from the beginning.
Laziness, drug addiction, and GREEEEED. Kevin Spacey in SE7EN could have killed him and taken the rest of the movie off since Richard was pinata of vice. That's if Dick hadn't already beaten John Doe to the punch.
 
Lowtax was right to be greedy. If goons are going to pay him why the fuck not take their money? He could have taken a lot more money if he hadn't been a degenerate drug addict loser.
No one is begrudging him milking the most retarded & gullible people on the planet. Its more that he kept pleading poverty because he spent it all on pills and mail-order pies, and ruined the site beause he was too lazy to feed his golden goose.
 
Lowtax was right to be greedy. If goons are going to pay him why the fuck not take their money? He could have taken a lot more money if he hadn't been a degenerate drug addict loser.
Just look at the merch situation.

He had so many orders that he gave up on shipping them, ending up in shit and being investigated for mail fraud because of it.
 
Which would have taken less than a day of work to partner with a print on demand t-shirt company, all he would have had to do is collect money afterwards.
To be far more fair than Lowtax ever deserved, there weren't many of those back then, and he was offering things they don't do, like the keychains and jerseys.

But it STILL shouldn't have taken over a year for orders that he'd been paid for in full to finally be put in a box, taped up, labelled and dropped off at a damned post office.
 
I'm glad Lowtax tricked a bunch of retarded nerds, myself included. I'm also glad he failed hilariously after awhile and died after taking pictures of a tranny hooker shitting on his coffee table.


I just wish his kids didn't have to grow up with a degenerate dad who let a literally pedophile babysit them.
 
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