Is reality truly real, or merely an illusion?

I've seen art of sandy cheeks, an animated Texan squirrel who lives under the ocean, is a genius scientist and karate expert who's best friend with a talking sponge, as a gaint vacuuming cars into her ginormous cock as people run in terror. I for fucking sure didn't create that in my subconscious or weird mind construction, reality is just to fucking nuts to be some abstraction or simulation.
 
It is an illusion made up by tiny little balls stuck together and somehow using magnets and electricity to make solid matter out of themselves.

Kind of out there.
 
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Existence exists—and the act of grasping that statement implies two corollary axioms: that something exists which one perceives and that one exists possessing consciousness, consciousness being the faculty of perceiving that which exists.​
If nothing exists, there can be no consciousness: a consciousness with nothing to be conscious of is a contradiction in terms. A consciousness conscious of nothing but itself is a contradiction in terms: before it could identify itself as consciousness, it had to be conscious of something. If that which you claim to perceive does not exist, what you possess is not consciousness.​
Whatever the degree of your knowledge, these two—existence and consciousness—are axioms you cannot escape, these two are the irreducible primaries implied in any action you undertake, in any part of your knowledge and in its sum, from the first ray of light you perceive at the start of your life to the widest erudition you might acquire at its end. Whether you know the shape of a pebble or the structure of a solar system, the axioms remain the same: that it exists and that you know it.​
To exist is to be something, as distinguished from the nothing of non-existence, it is to be an entity of a specific nature made of specific attributes. Centuries ago, the man who was—no matter what his errors —the greatest of your philosophers, has stated the formula defining the concept of existence and the rule of all knowledge: A is A. A thing is itself. You have never grasped the meaning of his statement. I am here to complete it: Existence is Identity, Consciousness is Identification.​
Whatever you choose to consider, be it an object, an attribute or an action, the law of identity remains the same. A leaf cannot be a stone at the same time, it cannot be all red and all green at the same time, it cannot freeze and burn at the same time. A is A. Or, if you wish it stated in simpler language: You cannot have your cake and eat it, too.​
Are you seeking to know what is wrong with the world? All the disasters that have wrecked your world, came from your leaders' attempt to evade the fact that A is A. All the secret evil you dread to face within you and all the pain you have ever endured, came from your own attempt to evade the fact that A is A. The purpose of those who taught you to evade it, was to make you forget that Man is Man.​
[...]​
Reality is that which exists; the unreal does not exist; the unreal is merely that negation of existence which is the content of a human consciousness when it attempts to abandon reason. Truth is the recognition of reality; reason, man's only means of knowledge, is his only standard of truth.​
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

In other words, existence/reality has primacy over consciousness. Primacy of consciousness over reality is contradictory and retarded because in order for a consciousness to exist, reality must exist.
 
The only way in which this discussion truly matters, is if our reality has some layer above, or spaces adjacent to, that we can move to from this reality. i.e. The matrix and the ability to be freed from it, thus seeing you were previously in a simulation of reality.

If reality is a mere construction, but we as constructs within it will never be able to be sure of this fact without leaving the construct, which in this case cannot happen, then a true solution to the problem is impossible and any attempts to solve it are pointless posturing. Any definitive declaration is just a cope and bet hedging. For all you know, you are a brain in a jar, (likely an infinitely more complicated brain than the one you are imagining in your fake body, for it to be able to hold onto the info needed to make your reality make any sense, but alas) but it helps you none to assume that if you can never prove it. Unless of course it helps your (fake) life in some way to have that assumption, brain-in-jar life or not.

I dunno, I find this sort of thing conceptually interesting in the sense of fictional narratives (as in this case, the ability for them to leave their "matrix" isn't impossible), but when it comes to real people really debating their own reality, it borders on silly. It's about as profound as some post modern student realizing that words are like totally just made up and actually have no real meaning man, and like everything is like a societal construct bro.

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meaningless line of thinking

if you think it's all an illusion and nothing matters then just kill yourself and spare the rest of us your pretentious pseudointellectual psychobabble
 
Is reality as we perceive it truly real, or is it merely an illusion shaped by our senses and consciousness? Could our experiences be reflections of a deeper, unseen truth, or is what we call "reality" simply a construct of the mind?
Are you being for real right now?
 
I never liked the "reality exists because chemical signals in my brain say so" argument. I much prefer the answer to "If a tree falls in the wounds and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?"

"The answer is "of course it does, are you retarded?"

More broadly though, if we take the whole "matrix theory" that we are all just living in a computer simulation, the answer becomes "Well, does it really matter?" Will your life fundamentally change in any meaningful way if this was just a massively immersive virtual reality? Would tomorrow be any different from yesterday? This is what I can't stand about existentialism. You can find absurdity and improbability in anything, up to and including reality itself. But needless nitpicking is just the path to misery. In all contexts from the most grand to the most mundane.

tl;dr you can always hang yourself to test the theory.
 
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What if life was like The Matrix maaaaaaaaaan? The idea was overplayed when Plato came up with it. Frankly I don't even get the point of entertaining the notion if you can't do anything to break past the perceived reality.


Like in a brain in a jar scenario you could tell the brain at some point that reality was just a simulation and they're a brain in a jar. But then what? It's a fuckin brain in jar, it can't do nothin outside of the fake reality.
 
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Of course it's fake.

Think long and hard about the fact that the mind produces an image of the world around it. Consider the proven fact, that the entire image is just your mind's creation. So the sight of the sky and sight of your arms are just different parts of an image made by your mind. No part of the image is less made by your mind than another.

YET, somehow you feel like you are in only one part of the image. Even though the ENTIRE image is a singular image coming from your mind, you hallucinate that one part of the image is you (so say your arms)... This isn't actually possible. You can't actually be INSIDE the image anywhere at all because the image is only an image made by your mind to represent the world and isn't itself the real world it is supposedly representing.

And then the mind does some more cool hallucinations, where it places a totally separate sense, the sense of touch, INSIDE the IMAGE. Which is also impossible, because the image is just an image, and the sense of touch is just a sense of touch. The sense of touch can't actually be inside the image but you hallucinate uncontrollably that it is. That's why it feels like you are literally located inside a small section of a visual image.

It is logically not possible.

This is how the rubber hand trick works by the way. You know when they put your real hand behind a screen and a rubber hand on the table, and simultaneously stroke your real hand and the rubber one. Your mind starts hallucinating wrong, and begins to hallucinate the sense of your hand literally in the image of the RUBBER hand instead... Same with the "ghost limb" phenomenon etc.

You can mess with people by pointing out weird impossible things about their experience of the world... And the complete impossibility of discerning between a 100 year long dream and whatever this is. How could you know? Hypothetically speaking, it is at least possible that even a dream could be persistent. Think recurring dreams. If you visit the same place every time you sleep, and find everything where you left it. Does that suddenly prove it's real?

In likelihood nothing is real. I'm very very very afraid of what comes next... Because if you're dead and what's next is "nightmarish", you can't wake up in bed safe and sound anymore. It frightens and haunts me a lot. For some reason I can't imagine what comes next is going to be good.
 
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Reality is your perception, and it can differ observer to observer. This nigger has shit into his hand his entire life, unaware that his reality diverges from his peers in this exact moment, and I think that's beautiful

 
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