Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

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Elon vs Donald, who will be triumphant?

  • Elon Musk

    Votes: 29 2.5%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 304 26.6%
  • Us, and the friends we made along the way

    Votes: 811 70.9%

  • Total voters
    1,144
According to null the CFPB is another socialist scam and doesn't actually protect consumers and told him to go fuck himself
It is, but it's also an agency created by an act of congress, and needs to be unmade by an act of congress. If the president can unilaterally shutter agencies we're ultimately going to have to confront the fact that the republic is a fiction. It has been to some degree since the second world war but this'll be the point where we really can't deny it anymore. It's been a flaw of the American system baked in from the start where ultimately a president is only constrained if congress can act independently, and generally doesn't anymore so long as the president is on the same team as the majority.

I'm not saying this is a 'constitutional crisis' necessarily because it's not substantially worse than multiple other abuses of presidential power over the last 80 years but it is crasser and more flagrant. Ultimately the courts can, and have on a few prior actions, block and stop things. But the court is just the law and it ultimately doesn't matter if the executive chooses to not respect it, and if congress chooses to not remove the executive for not respecting it.
 
It’s pretty simple: more government gibs for himself, remove or neuter regulatory agencies so they can’t go after him (which is why the CFPB is DOGE’s next target), and keeps agencies on their toes so they can’t go after him.

USAID is pretty unsympathetic in an era of trillion-dollar deficits so they’re an easy first target. The shift to CFPB is more in line with his real goals. I don’t see how removing consumer protections benefits us but it’s easy to see how they benefit a guy who makes cars with shoddy build quality.
Yeah the CFPB stuff smells of Thiel & Andreessen, mad that they weren’t allowed to push shady fintech banks on chuds.

Somewhere along the line we all lost the ability to ask ourselves “if a billionaire says they don’t like something, should we trust their reasoning”.

The USAID shit was an easy target that gives them credibility of canning something toxic. The only people who have ever vocally come after the CFPB are payday lenders and fintech douchebags.
 
I'm not saying this is a 'constitutional crisis' necessarily because it's not substantially worse than multiple other abuses of presidential power over the last 80 years but it is crasser and more flagrant. Ultimately the courts can, and have on a few prior actions, block and stop things. But the court is just the law and it ultimately doesn't matter if the executive chooses to not respect it, and if congress chooses to not remove the executive for not respecting it.
Part of the techno-feudalist playbook Musk subscribes to is ignore the courts, replace Congress and suppress media (lucky for him the media is 95% trash already). Until somebody puts the man child in the corner, he’ll keep going.

Kinda makes me think any populist left or right wing who has ever screamed about wanting to prevent elites (or Russia or China) from taking over is full of shit.
 
Here's today's milk:
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I don't know American politics but somebody told me Vance's wife is Indian.
She is. But also Vance is a millennial who worked in tech. He probably sees internet drama and shitposting the same way your average KF user does - "it's shitposting, don't read too much into it."

Maybe he works remotely? Most curious, given his disdain for remote workers.
He does. His entire thing about remote work is literally the, "he wants people in office so he can lord over them" middle manager stereotype.

Kinda makes me think any populist left or right wing who has ever screamed about wanting to prevent elites (or Russia or China) from taking over is full of shit.
No, they just want "their elites" in. That's the core of Trumpism - he's a "good elite" who merely assaults women and plays shady games with real estate, not a "bad elite" who assaults women and plays shady games in hollywood.
 
No, they just want "their elites" in. That's the core of Trumpism - he's a "good elite" who merely assaults women and plays shady games with real estate, not a "bad elite" who assaults women and plays shady games in hollywood
Definitely true. Ironically Musk/Thiel/Andreessen are the latter. They currently need Trump because their ideas on their own are hated and they’re painfully void of personality or charisma.
 
Null's IQ dropped by like 20 points since he started to breathe American air and eat American food.
"How does that affect me personally though" is a stance he used to make fun of when his body was fuelled by European produce.
He also got tricked by a cropped screenshot that wasn't even cropped far enough to remove the information it tried to conceal, and fell for that obvious attention whore who claimed to have a modder deported.
 
If you refuse to stand up for your kids in the face of people that hate them simply for existing, you are a cuck. And I'm sure Vance would agree if the kids were white and the attacker had blue hair
Vance is the biggest spineless cuck in the world. Guy makes Lindsey Graham look like someone with integrity

A man white knighting people who are racist against his wife and children is as weak of a man is there is
 
Errol dindu nuffin. Elon just had bad vibes and was unpleasant to be around.
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Literally Mad Max times
Have you stocked up on spiky shoulderpads yet? Protip: Get an autogyro like that one dude in The Road Warrior. Lord Humungous can’t rape you if he can’t catch you!
 
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I think the writing is already on the wall. Expect three or four years of financial market excess and zero regulation, followed by the inevitable crash. It will be the Roaring '20s all over again. Trump is the modern-day Calvin Coolidge, JD Vance may well be the Herbert Hoover left holding the bag.
Yup. President Elon and his pet monkey Trump are going to do everything in their power, including crashing the economy. All so they can pay less in taxes.
 
Ah. Well that's very convenient.
There are almost no actual Farmers on the so-called Kiwi Farms Telegrams. From some of the ignorant babble over there I think most of them don't even browse it. It's also standard for 764 to do shit like this aimed at the Farms or the sharty and greater soysphere (although I would reckon more 764 types are on the sharty if only to fuck with it and spam CP and other fucked-up shit).
 
It's been a flaw of the American system baked in from the start where ultimately a president is only constrained if congress can act independently, and generally doesn't anymore so long as the president is on the same team as the majority.
Agencies were not really a thing the way they are today. When they existed, they were generally enacted pursuant to some specific grant of enumerated powers in Article I, not just some vague hand-waving about interstate commerce, an enumerated power that has become so enormous it has essentially eaten the rest of them.

However, it's also always been the case that while Congress can establish or abolish parts of the administrative state, the President has always had the power to tell them what to do within that grant of statutory authority, and even when Congress explicitly drafts legislation to make something mandatory on paper, the President has always been able to thwart it to some degree, or get it to do what he wants instead, whether by executive order or by simply appointing someone too inept to run it (a trick Trump has been using imo).

In short, it's a feature, not a bug, and the administrative state, which has become essentially a fourth branch of government not authorized in the Constitution, kind of needs a haircut at this point.

That said, it's very Trumpian to do that by appointing an unelected big campaign donor to be doing it and in fact, that's exactly the kind of shit that shouldn't be allowed.
 
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