Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

What's up with all the shit libs in this thread crying about the poor poor federal workers and usaid being shut down?

Us aid did nothing for the American people. Also I HOPE Russia is behind this. Russia just continues to prove they are the good guys.

DOGE is a good idea; this better not be another Elon hate echo chamber thread; we already have Reddit for that.
Usual faggot are here crying about him and his this is harming "America's standing in the world" and crying about the Russian Boogeyman as if what they are doing is a bad thing.
 
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What's up with all the shit libs in this thread crying about the poor poor federal workers and usaid being shut down?

Us aid did nothing for the American people. Also I HOPE Russia is behind this. Russia just continues to prove they are the good guys.


Usual faggot are here crying about him and his this is harming "America's standing in the world" and crying about the Russian Boogeyman as if what they are doing is a bad thing.

I would love for some psychologist to write a paper on the phenomena of how devoted these middle class liberal twerps are to their faction despite all evidence that the DC elite are preformative while pilfering billions of their tax dollars. Is it that they hate Trump that badly and will take whatever side fights against him, is that their egos are preventing them from accepting that they've been duped, is it some kind of weird stockholm syndrome, or something else entirely? Like, I'm not a Trump guy but the enemy of my enemy adage rings eternal here and I hope the best case scenario is that Trump wipes out the swamp in such a way that they cannot recover in 2028 and then quietly sets the ground work for the next generation with a clean DC. But even I have to admit, if there ever was a main character of modern America, it's him beyond a shadow of a doubt. His resilience is insane and tbh inspiring even if I disagree with him on some issues.

There's a ton of remarkably good opportunities here for DOGE and co to compile a lot of these left leaning bureaucrat reactions to the past week and create a few videos (not tweets) really just spelling out for normies what is happening. There is a legitimate chance here with the right approach to bring in a TON of democrat normies on our side, because this is the only issue that I think could reunite the country - both republicans and dems citizens are getting completely fucked by these corrupt parasitic inheritors and there is a chance to bring the country back together through this. A 9/11 event to unite the country couldn't happen in today's age - conservatives would smirk at another NYC attack and liberals would cheer at a Texas attack, but both the average citizen in NYC and Texas are getting completely robbed by the DC ruling class. If anyone is lurking ITT fucking jump on this or at least be open to ideas.
 
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yet another fun reminder that Trump is just using tools that are legally available to him and were always available for any other administration to use for rooting out corruption and waste in the government. they just never wanted to because that corruption and waste is how presidents, senators, house reps, staffers, and every single other person attach to the government was getting their kickbacks

That’s their contributions as recorded from a nonprofit records website. They have received nothing from USAID. The contributions come from donations, as stated in the Form 990 that every 501(c)3 has to sign. Pick up a fucking dictionary and learn to fucking read before you take talking points from retards on Twitter.
what percentage of your paycheck comes from federal sources. i'm going to guess 100%
 
I would love for some psychologist to write a paper on the phenomena of how devoted these middle class liberal twerps are to their faction despite all evidence that the DC elite are preformative while pilfering billions of their tax dollars. Is it that they hate Trump that badly and will take whatever side fights against him
"Trump Derangement Syndrome" began as a joke to mock these people and their obsessions. It's now plainly clear that a years-long diet of outrage directed at Orange Hitler has changed the way their minds work; it's an actual mental illness. They are deranged.
 
"Trump Derangement Syndrome" began as a joke to mock these people and their obsessions. It's now plainly clear that a years-long diet of outrage directed at Orange Hitler has changed the way their minds work; it's an actual mental illness. They are deranged.
Already several fatalities had attended his chase. But though similar disasters, however little bruited ashore, were by no means unusual in the fishery; yet, in most instances, such seemed the White Whale’s infernal aforethought of ferocity, that every dismembering or death that he caused, was not wholly regarded as having been inflicted by an unintelligent agent.

Judge, then, to what pitches of inflamed, distracted fury the minds of his more desperate hunters were impelled, when amid the chips of chewed boats, and the sinking limbs of torn comrades, they swam out of the white curds of the whale’s direful wrath into the serene, exasperating sunlight, that smiled on, as if at a birth or a bridal.

His three boats stove around him, and oars and men both whirling in the eddies; one captain, seizing the line-knife from his broken prow, had dashed at the whale, as an Arkansas duellist at his foe, blindly seeking with a six inch blade to reach the fathom-deep life of the whale. That captain was Ahab. And then it was, that suddenly sweeping his sickle-shaped lower jaw beneath him, Moby Dick had reaped away Ahab’s leg, as a mower a blade of grass in the field. No turbaned Turk, no hired Venetian or Malay, could have smote him with more seeming malice. Small reason was there to doubt, then, that ever since that almost fatal encounter, Ahab had cherished a wild vindictiveness against the whale, all the more fell for that in his frantic morbidness he at last came to identify with him, not only all his bodily woes, but all his intellectual and spiritual exasperations. The White Whale swam before him as the monomaniac incarnation of all those malicious agencies which some deep men feel eating in them, till they are left living on with half a heart and half a lung. That intangible malignity which has been from the beginning; to whose dominion even the modern Christians ascribe one-half of the worlds; which the ancient Ophites of the east reverenced in their statue devil;—Ahab did not fall down and worship it like them; but deliriously transferring its idea to the abhorred white whale, he pitted himself, all mutilated, against it. All that most maddens and torments; all that stirs up the lees of things; all truth with malice in it; all that cracks the sinews and cakes the brain; all the subtle demonisms of life and thought; all evil, to crazy Ahab, were visibly personified, and made practically assailable in Moby Dick. He piled upon the whale’s white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart’s shell upon it.

It is not probable that this monomania in him took its instant rise at the precise time of his bodily dismemberment. Then, in darting at the monster, knife in hand, he had but given loose to a sudden, passionate, corporal animosity; and when he received the stroke that tore him, he probably but felt the agonizing bodily laceration, but nothing more. Yet, when by this collision forced to turn towards home, and for long months of days and weeks, Ahab and anguish lay stretched together in one hammock, rounding in mid winter that dreary, howling Patagonian Cape; then it was, that his torn body and gashed soul bled into one another; and so interfusing, made him mad. That it was only then, on the homeward voyage, after the encounter, that the final monomania seized him, seems all but certain from the fact that, at intervals during the passage, he was a raving lunatic; and, though unlimbed of a leg, yet such vital strength yet lurked in his Egyptian chest, and was moreover intensified by his delirium, that his mates were forced to lace him fast, even there, as he sailed, raving in his hammock. In a strait-jacket, he swung to the mad rockings of the gales. And, when running into more sufferable latitudes, the ship, with mild stun’sails spread, floated across the tranquil tropics, and, to all appearances, the old man’s delirium seemed left behind him with the Cape Horn swells, and he came forth from his dark den into the blessed light and air; even then, when he bore that firm, collected front, however pale, and issued his calm orders once again; and his mates thanked God the direful madness was now gone; even then, Ahab, in his hidden self, raved on. Human madness is oftentimes a cunning and most feline thing. When you think it fled, it may have but become transfigured into some still subtler form. Ahab’s full lunacy subsided not, but deepeningly contracted; like the unabated Hudson, when that noble Northman flows narrowly, but unfathomably through the Highland gorge. But, as in his narrow-flowing monomania, not one jot of Ahab’s broad madness had been left behind; so in that broad madness, not one jot of his great natural intellect had perished. That before living agent, now became the living instrument. If such a furious trope may stand, his special lunacy stormed his general sanity, and carried it, and turned all its concentred cannon upon its own mad mark; so that far from having lost his strength, Ahab, to that one end, did now possess a thousand fold more potency than ever he had sanely brought to bear upon any one reasonable object.

This is much; yet Ahab’s larger, darker, deeper part remains unhinted. But vain to popularize profundities, and all truth is profound. Winding far down from within the very heart of this spiked Hotel de Cluny where we here stand—however grand and wonderful, now quit it;—and take your way, ye nobler, sadder souls, to those vast Roman halls of Thermes; where far beneath the fantastic towers of man’s upper earth, his root of grandeur, his whole awful essence sits in bearded state; an antique buried beneath antiquities, and throned on torsoes! So with a broken throne, the great gods mock that captive king; so like a Caryatid, he patient sits, upholding on his frozen brow the piled entablatures of ages. Wind ye down there, ye prouder, sadder souls! question that proud, sad king! A family likeness! aye, he did beget ye, ye young exiled royalties; and from your grim sire only will the old State-secret come.

Now, in his heart, Ahab had some glimpse of this, namely: all my means are sane, my motive and my object mad. Yet without power to kill, or change, or shun the fact; he likewise knew that to mankind he did long dissemble; in some sort, did still. But that thing of his dissembling was only subject to his perceptibility, not to his will determinate. Nevertheless, so well did he succeed in that dissembling, that when with ivory leg he stepped ashore at last, no Nantucketer thought him otherwise than but naturally grieved, and that to the quick, with the terrible casualty which had overtaken him.

The report of his undeniable delirium at sea was likewise popularly ascribed to a kindred cause. And so too, all the added moodiness which always afterwards, to the very day of sailing in the Pequod on the present voyage, sat brooding on his brow. Nor is it so very unlikely, that far from distrusting his fitness for another whaling voyage, on account of such dark symptoms, the calculating people of that prudent isle were inclined to harbor the conceit, that for those very reasons he was all the better qualified and set on edge, for a pursuit so full of rage and wildness as the bloody hunt of whales. Gnawed within and scorched without, with the infixed, unrelenting fangs of some incurable idea; such an one, could he be found, would seem the very man to dart his iron and lift his lance against the most appalling of all brutes. Or, if for any reason thought to be corporeally incapacitated for that, yet such an one would seem superlatively competent to cheer and howl on his underlings to the attack. But be all this as it may, certain it is, that with the mad secret of his unabated rage bolted up and keyed in him, Ahab had purposely sailed upon the present voyage with the one only and all-engrossing object of hunting the White Whale. Had any one of his old acquaintances on shore but half dreamed of what was lurking in him then, how soon would their aghast and righteous souls have wrenched the ship from such a fiendish man! They were bent on profitable cruises, the profit to be counted down in dollars from the mint. He was intent on an audacious, immitigable, and supernatural revenge.

Here, then, was this grey-headed, ungodly old man, chasing with curses a Job’s whale round the world, at the head of a crew, too, chiefly made up of mongrel renegades, and castaways, and cannibals—morally enfeebled also, by the incompetence of mere unaided virtue or right-mindedness in Starbuck, the invunerable jollity of indifference and recklessness in Stubb, and the pervading mediocrity in Flask. Such a crew, so officered, seemed specially picked and packed by some infernal fatality to help him to his monomaniac revenge. How it was that they so aboundingly responded to the old man’s ire—by what evil magic their souls were possessed, that at times his hate seemed almost theirs; the White Whale as much their insufferable foe as his; how all this came to be—what the White Whale was to them, or how to their unconscious understandings, also, in some dim, unsuspected way, he might have seemed the gliding great demon of the seas of life,—all this to explain, would be to dive deeper than Ishmael can go. The subterranean miner that works in us all, how can one tell whither leads his shaft by the ever shifting, muffled sound of his pick? Who does not feel the irresistible arm drag? What skiff in tow of a seventy-four can stand still? For one, I gave myself up to the abandonment of the time and the place; but while yet all a-rush to encounter the whale, could see naught in that brute but the deadliest ill.




It's basically the same as this, just with losing an election instead of a leg and a great orange real estate tycoon instead of a great white whale.
 
What's up with all the shit libs in this thread crying about the poor poor federal workers and usaid being shut down?
because they're losing their gilded jobs that they DESERVE, more than the private sector underclass

every single person crying about DOGE and Elon Musk are people with overvalued degrees working at overvalued jobs

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And would you look at that, blocking foreigners from just being able to walk onto US soil basically solves this without having to spend billions on foreign countries. Killing USAID and getting out of the WHO are some of the best decisions the US has made in years besides finally enforcing the border

Remember in ye olde days, when you'd never in your life see anyone from lands a thousand miles away, and going places without permission often resulted in beheading? There were no pandemics killing millions of people then. Will we be blocking all international travel & global shipping too, or will diseases in human & animal vectors and on trade goods respect our boundaries?

Dropping out of the WHO allowed China to fill the void we left. Far worse was Trump dismantling that NSC pandemic dept with offices in China in 2017. Remember when Donald said it was nbd & all we knew were alarmist rumors on social media? Just some satellite twitter posts about burning pyres in Wuhan because we no longer had eyes there. I'd already had covid by the time Trump started desperately banning flights from Chyna. But it was worth the few million dollars or so a year that saved. It's worth sacrificing a thousand such bellwethers to ensure that billionaire faggots like Peter Thiel get their tax cuts. If a million Americans must die so that Elon Musk has more play money for transhumanist nightmare shit like Neuralink, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make!
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Trump getting shot changed his mind, if he weren't already sure of his goals after years of subversion of the DOJ to try and wreck him in court and his own supposed employ and other branches of the govt trying to put roadblocks in front of him even during his presidency. Above all else, Kamala would have been far worse. You can keep saying we've fell for it again when JFK's shooting is declassified, the Pentagon is getting it's shit kicked in, and so on.

JFK's shooting declassified haha, has Jim Garrison been vindicated yet? Did Sirhan Sirhan have a partner hiding in the pantry after all? Pentagon getting its "shit kicked in", press X...what's he doing, not raising the Pentagon budget every year like he did in his first term? Cultish babble. Teddy Roosevelt got shot during a rally, finished his 2 hour speech with a bullet in his chest, then began trustbusting tycoons that Trump would be sucking off. Reagan took a shot to the lung, not a graze, he didn't act like this much of a pussy trampling the 1st amendment rights of anyone critical of him with SLAPP suits. Reagan did a lot of deregulating, but he had to fund a cold war with USSR and had enough sense to not kill things like OSHA & USDA ffs.

Kopmala would not have been worse, ~if~ "MAGA" had won everywhere else to deadlock her. How miserable were the Bill Clinton years? Aside from Republicans' kvetching 24/7 about a BJ because controlling the House & Senate wasn't good enough...
 
>Dropping out of the WHO allowed China to fill the void we left. Far worse was Trump dismantling that NSC pandemic dept with offices in China in 2017. Remember when Donald said it was nbd & all we knew were alarmist rumors on social media?
Do you remember who told Trump it was NBD?
(It was the World Health Organization.) I can't think of why he wants them gone, they were so honest, effective, and efficient.
 
USAID is not a “criminal organization” as Musk says, it’s an important agency that has some bad actors in it misappropriating some of it for globohomo. You don’t have to throw away millions of dollars in food & medications or stop building clinics just to end the million spent on ‘Muslima Has Two Mommies‘ books or whatever. I'd hope they continue its important work after delousing it and folding it into the State Dept...🌈
You mean the same programs like the polio vaccination one that was actually a bunch of informants who helped lead the military to Bin Laden's compound and then afterwards got every single polio aid worker banned from the region and got some aid workers murdered by sandniggers and helped cause an enormous resurgence of polio (an almost globally eliminated disease in 2011) in remote corners of Pakistan and Afghanistan? USAID cannot help but do evil things by their very nature. Audit the fuck out of programs like that at bare minimum.
 
You're really running cover for an organization made for the CIA that's long lost it's purpose? I don't think we want to get into how much of that 39 billion you're talking about wasn't actually for such a good cause, if that's even close to accurate. But Russia doesn't excuse shit, they do NOT have the money or military power to compete with the US on this. USAID was .7%, or so I've heard, of the federal budget and they're throwing around billions like it's nothing, building trans clinics in Vietnam and printing DEI binders for Afghanistan. You're also missing that it's not just been pointed out USAID funds went to left leaning orgs like Feminist Frequency,

Yes, let's FIX it! Republicans are in control of all parts of the elected federal government for at least the next two years! Why is the first option of elite republicans always "throw it all out". Instead of making it work correctly, in the true interest of the country, not letter people and pet progressive causes. If you kill it, you leave the door wide open in 4, 8 or 12 years, for the dems to ride in and once again revive it from scratch to their liking. Without having to spend the political capital needed to completely pervert a non partisan well running org. Even more importantly, killing it like this means they don't even need an act of congress to start rebuilding as they see fit since you've once again only fired workers and restricted funding through executive power. (power that may no even be legal in the end since i was expressly founded and funded by congress)

Yeah, the CIA and the like have been a huge problem going all the way back to post WW2 after its founding. In a way it had to be because of the nature of the cold war. But it went overboard or totally unacceptable quite a bit. It needs a complete house cleaning and greater permanent strict multi-source/org oversight. Not just for waste but also crap like messing with Americans or fucking with allies. We also need to reiterate and expand prohibitions on operating on/at US soil or interfering in US political or legal issues in general. Along with better efforts to combat ideological and political capture. (two things that all gov orgs need to be fair.. something made inf harder when one side declares ongoing war against the entirety of)

On a side note.. (not accusing TB here specifically) Why do modern concerns about government spending always seem to accompany and focus even greater concern with the morality of America projecting any kind of power, self interest or support for allies? Particularly when it seems to get in the way of the self interest of certain other antagonistic and belligerent nations around the world?

The Pauls were the first major manifestation of this. Now it infests a number of elements of the conservatives and right. Quite a bit of creepiness and "connections" aside.. at least the Pauls are consistent, even if idealistic utopians, every bit as dangerous and magic in thinking as leftists. "everything will be perfect if we just get rid of government and regress society into a state of near legal/official anarchy, like most failed countries". Which are OC the only places with the kinds of "freedom" from government they seem to desire.

Horse shoe theory really does work on the economic side of ideology as well. Libertarians (at least publicly) believe governmental forces/existence is responsible for all of societies ills, from prices to homelessness and crime. Without it the free market and economic forces can operate unobstructed in creating a perfect society. Leftists believe more social factors are the problems, and with more official governmental control, we can overcome them and free, or re-blank humidity, so we can all live in peace, free from self interest in a perfect society. All magical thinking. -_-' It takes balance.. not to achieve utopia, but a livable, healthy and happy, free society. Utopia's are outside of modern reach. tech may one day make it possible but not today, and not through total government or complete lack of it.

Of course i'm being more general here.. there are a lot of other details like state vs fed power and role etc.


It's easier to fix systemic rot by burning down the house and rebuilding it on a sturdier foundation. Providing Aid is good for soft power but packaging that aid with gender bullshit or putting the local media in our pockets isn't winning us friends. We need a new agency that is more transparent, accountable, and isn't a front for funding CIA ops.

I hope Trump burns down FEMA next and builds an actual organization that can handle large scale domestic emergencies.

I agree that sometimes it is the best and or only option. But the people in charge here seem to be of the "government shouldn't be doing anything anyway" libertardian variety i fear. That's the source of my worry over some of this. They don't want to rebuild, they want it all gone. These are the same types of people who think we should get rid of FEMA as a concept, and leave building and funding roads to private interests, or leaving already out of control costing health care and coverage up to for-market-profit, inf growth parasites. As if THAT will surely bring down costs for health care patients, if we just allow them to do whatever they want! Of course when these types talk about bringing down prices, they only mean for companies and their investors.. Not making services or things cheaper for end users.
 
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I agree that sometimes it is the best and or only option. But the people in charge here seem to be of the "government shouldn't be doing anything anyway" libertardian variety i fear. That's the source of my worry over some of this. They don't want to rebuild, they want it all gone.
I have a feeling a new USaid type program will come back. Trump is a businessman who is waging economic warfare on basically everyone as he renegotiates their relationship with the US. High tariffs and cut aid to put pressure, if they play ball and give us what we want, then tariffs will lower and aid is back on the menu.
These are the same types of people who think we should get rid of FEMA as a concept
I am one of those. FEMA was established to act as the government should DC get nuked during the Cold War. It was later juryrigged into a national disaster agency later on, but sucks at its task because they have other duties that take priority, like housing illegals in hotels. We need to get rid of it and create an actual agency whose sole responsibility dealing with emergencies like, combating natural disasters by coordinating public and private assets, rehousing displaced citizens, and helping with rebuilding.
leaving already out of control costing health care and coverage up to for-market-profit, inf growth parasites. As if THAT will surely bring down costs for health care patients, if we just allow them to do whatever they want! Of course when these types talk about bringing down prices, they only mean for companies and their investors.. Not making services or things cheaper for end users.
Trump has the health industry on his shitlist. I was a big fan of Trump's first term EO where he mandated that pharma companies can't charge American's more than the lowest EU price. Also, him and Vance have talked about wanting more transparency in the cost of medical services, so citizens can make informed decisions and increase competitive pressures on doctors. Insurance is going to be the hard one to reform, but I wonder what him or RFK has cooking to fix that.
 
I am one of those. FEMA was established to act as the government should DC get nuked during the Cold War. It was later juryrigged into a national disaster agency later on, but sucks at its task because they have other duties that take priority, like housing illegals in hotels. We need to get rid of it and create an actual agency whose sole responsibility dealing with emergencies like, combating natural disasters by coordinating public and private assets, rehousing displaced citizens, and helping with rebuilding.

Agreed.. By "concept" i meant as in exactly the type of thing you mean. I've heard people, especially libertarians types, argue that federal government should just "get out of the way" and stop wasting tax money on this. That if states and local orgs can't take care of if it... oh well. This shit is the same as every other privatize (doing and funding) everything argument. I mean these are people who straight face argue that privatized road systems would be more "efficient" because they wouldn't be forced to create or maintain roads that don't "make sense" and have no economic value. (i.e. for industry, business and rich neighborhoods) Also the same types of people who, totally coincidentally, tend to include the types of super rich/elite who hold meetings and conventions to talk about what to do in a societal collapse. How to run their own little dictatorships, how many slaves (and their families) they will need to provide for, to staff security etc. Whether they should kill pilots who spirit them away to safe places, in order to keep it secret. True parasite classes.
 
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You mean the same programs like the polio vaccination one that was actually a bunch of informants who helped lead the military to Bin Laden's compound and then afterwards got every single polio aid worker banned from the region and got some aid workers murdered by sandniggers and helped cause an enormous resurgence of polio (an almost globally eliminated disease in 2011) in remote corners of Pakistan and Afghanistan? USAID cannot help but do evil things by their very nature. Audit the fuck out of programs like that at bare minimum.
Wait, are you unhappy that the US used their soft power to track down and kill the anime faggot Bin Laden.
 
Here come the usual faggots crying about Israel again.
If you hate Israel you unironically are a subhuman. Israel is about the only country in the world worth saving.
Amazing bait friend! Your credit score just went up... well look at that!

Musk is giving us lols, I say we take the harvest and enjoy it. This is Kiwifarms, we are here to laugh at sillyness. Moralfagging is a secondary concern.
 
Amazing bait friend! Your credit score just went up... well look at that!

Musk is giving us lols, I say we take the harvest and enjoy it. This is Kiwifarms, we are here to laugh at sillyness. Moralfagging is a secondary concern.
It's not "bait".

I get a kick out of people who want a "white homeland" but constantly cry about Israel.

Listen to me, Israel is everything you want. It is literally the goal you people have in your mind for what you want reality to be.

Quoting for posterity later.
Projection is the foundation of modern leftist thought.
 
It's not "bait".

I get a kick out of people who want a "white homeland" but constantly cry about Israel.

Listen to me, Israel is everything you want. It is literally the goal you people have in your mind for what you want reality to be.
Is this one of those things where if you convince some other fag to go, you don’t have to be conscripted? If so, I think you’re in the right place.
 
Russia spends 90% of money on intelligence operatons (spies and so on)
While savings will be made, other countries (Ru, Cn) will quickly fill the gap.
Entire world is military war zone and just because you don't see active combatants, it doesn't mean there aren't any.
Russia is currently spending most of their money on a war, I simply do not give a shit whatever little pittance they're going to put to more misinformation on the internet and I'm not sure why you would either. China's been far more effective at this, way more than the US, for years, cause they've focused on actual propaganda rather than trying to spread gay shit, and building dams in africa to try and make them a vassal state. Don't think it'll work out, but they're doing it, and regardless they get to rape them of natural resources. Compared to Russia they have the resources to burn. The west (US) gave them a free ticket to ride off of them for decades. Comparatively, USAID did only damage to the image of the US other than to the shitholiest shitholes who were just suckling at the gibs teat forever and aren't of any benefit anyways. Not to mention China exporting actual 'secret' police to other nations. When's the last time Russia was able to support Soviet ass shit like that? The Russian bs has rung hollow since the dems started screaming about Trump being Putler's lover and that they hacked the election for him for some reason.
 
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