Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Stan]

Has anyone noticed how normal lefties are just done with the tranny shit? Quick personal. I know two people close to me who don't give a fuck anymore to hear about the tranny shit and the pushing the tranny shit on kids. Both are dems, one peaked after Oct 7th (they're jewish) and have completely disregarded all social progressive crap (they use to be super progressive) and the other is a soon retired professional/mother from where I work. She hates Trump with a passion but told me during lunch that "I don't care what people do with their free time but the transgender stuff (which I don't understand) is pushed too much and I'm against the transgender kids stuff." I think the silent majority has peeked. what do you think?

TBF if I was a born Jew (not just a spiritual Jew trapped in the body of a Protestant), deep in progressive politics, and Oct 7th 2023 happened, and suddenly all my political fellow travelers were deep in the tank for PALESTINE and getting all emotional and sad for the Gazans, and the college undergrads were all protesting on behalf of the Palestinians who just killed a bunch of holocaust survivor grandmas on a Sabbath, I would ploish out too, and not quietly. (It still pisses me off and I don't even have skin in the game.)

And yeah, I think the majority of people peaked on this a long time ago. They were trying to be nice about it. Trans BS may not be the thing that pushed them out, like your Jewish friend, but it's offputting to many Dems (for many reasons) and they barely tolerate the bullshit for tolerances' sake IMO.

I’m musing over the USAID closures today. On the face of it I thought that would be a bad idea because like most people I associated USAID with humanitarian food aid of grains, MREs, essential survival supplies etc. But now it’s coming out that USAID spent like 48,000 on a troon opera in Colombia? Another 32,000 to fund a troon comic book in Peru? 2 million for sex changes in Guatemala?

I asked my husband about it and he said "what you need to understand is that despite the name, USAID isn't about humanitarian aid or development. It's about toppling foreign regimes and projecting US power abroad."

Which just made me wonder more why the Biden admin wanted to export troonery to Latin America. Did they think that if these nations have more transgender people in them, they'd... not be combat ready? That TRAs can topple Hugo Chavez style strongmen? That such leaders would be More willing to follow the US' lead? One wonders. And I know these are tiny budget items, relatively speaking, but I wish they'd stuck to handing out grain. If USAID spent its entire budget eye on buying grain and shipping it to shithole countries they would have solved world hunger twice over

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

USAID/Pentagon/us military was running around telling the Afghanis that they need to have gender neutral bathrooms before the US government would help the out. These are people who don't think woman are people and this is what they worry about?

 

[Modern Audience]

Trannies will literally call someones cosmetic treatment after he got his face clawed off by a bear "gender affirmation surgery"

 

[teriyakiburns]

Which just made me wonder more why the Biden admin wanted to export troonery to Latin America. Did they think that if these nations have more transgender people in them, they'd... not be combat ready? That TRAs can topple Hugo Chavez style strongmen? That such leaders would be More willing to follow the US' lead? One wonders. And I know these are tiny budget items, relatively speaking, but I wish they'd stuck to handing out grain. If USAID spent its entire budget eye on buying grain and shipping it to shithole countries they would have solved world hunger twice over

You're looking for a rational explanation of irrational behaviour. They fund these things because they believe, deep in their souls, that they are good in and of themselves. Their ideology is predicated on the belief that reality itself has been warped and suppressed by whiteness (which changes definition based on who they're talking to), and that if they just spend enough effort subverting that white oppression, with their non-binary transgender anti-racialist intersectional bullshit, the world will snap back to they reality they are convinced lies underneath.

 

[Vandyke Clown]

What is the best that we can realistically expect?

And I can't ever see the mainstream media going back to honest pronoun use and honest sex identification.

Science is mostly silent on the causes of trans because it’s a career-ending topic, but if academic freedom returns and a serious investigation happens, I am confident it will discover a complex web of factors including isolation, abuse, autism, paraphilia, pornography, and social contagion. Once this comes to light, affirmation as a treatment will become untenable, and prevention will become the priority, as with anorexia. At this point the media will finally recognise that feeding the delusion is the opposite of kindness.

 

[deermeat]

I have never watched I Am Jazz. BUT, I do know a little bit of details here and there about him and his situation which makes me ask this big question....
If it were possible for Jazz to "wake up" and realize how corrupt his situation really is, wouldn't TLC be massively screwed? Jazz would have the ability to completely destroy TLC. TLC is already pretty corrupt with how they treated others, but this is just beyond corruption in every single way. This was a guy who was publicly abused and assaulted by his family and they all treated his story like it wasn't abuse and that its all a good thing.
They platformed a psychopath and gave his mother everything she has ever wanted. They funded his body's destruction and encouraged it.

Theres no show from what I know of that went that far in promoting literal child abuse. Even shows like 16 & Pregnant portrayed pregnancy at that age as a bad thing. And that's pregnancy, that is something natural to the human body.

I feel like the only way Jazz could realize the horrors of his life is when the tide fully turns (its turning now) and people start actually speaking up about the horrors of troonery (like someone not politically affiliated with any party releasing a documentary) and even then his mother would probably has to die first.
After that though, even if he still believes in this shit, TLC is so fucked. I can totally see TLC fighting/funding to not have anyone publicly talk about how dangerous troonery really is due to how royally fucked they would be,

 

[Vandyke Clown]

I can totally see TLC fighting/funding to not have anyone publicly talk about how dangerous troonery really is due to how royally fucked they would be,

The show producers will be well protected by contracts and signed waivers from all involved, same as the butcher doctors. They will feel very safe from liability.

The only thing that can change that is new legislation that recognises an absence of informed consent and retroactively nullifies those waivers. Retroactive laws are rare, but they do sometimes get passed - asserting war crimes, for example.

 

[Paper Machete]

Spreading gay faggotry isn't some 5D chess move by the US. If it was something to weaken other countries then why would they also spread it on the home front? It's because the pencil pusher jobs who come up with this stuff are from the "they'll grow up when they get to the real world" class of Current Year. That's part of what is so retarded about all of this. The whole thing is one big long exercise in what happens when you just don't tell the class idiot to shut the fuck up. Everyone watched while things slide downhill because they thought there was some sort of magical wall the Wokies would hit, forgetting that that wall is supposed to be them saying "oh, fuck off Janet."

 

[Modern Audience]

I'm calling it now, there's gonna be some troon who went through the dick chopping who detransitions and it will be like darth vader turning to the light side or something

 

[unctuous mouthfeel]

Was making fun of a picture of a group of nerds including a big fat troon to a friend of mine, not a guy I know super well, but he's a good guy. Not a right wing type at all, just a happy family man type guy. He started off kinda chuckling at the troon and by the end of the conversation he was saying how sick he is of being told to deny scientific fact for the sake of some mentally ill perverts that want to hurt women. Being as well read as I am (lurking here), I was able to add some fuel to his fire and it felt damn good. They're so cooked; he is the nicest person I've ever met and as far from who the people who say "the cruelty is the point" could possibly imagine in every way. It's not just him either, everyone I talk to has at least a little apprehension about tranny shit nowadays. The weirdest and among the most harmful fads ever is coming to a close. Bank on it, bozos.

 

[Papa stink]

Trannies like to claim programming and FNV are "transcore" but even with trannies programming is a male-dominated field and FNV is played a lot by men and is part of a genre that is mostly played by men. This means they're outright admitting that the telltale signs of a tranny are male interests.

 

[Comp0site Specter]

I've been sitting here trying to wonder, what's a good way to explain why "transwomen are women" is stupid to the average person. I remember seeing a video a while back (now deleted) where a guy explains that the reason they use "anyone who identifies as a woman" argument is so popular is because all other definitions for women also include feminine men and/or exclude some women. I just want a good way to plant a seed of doubt in certain progressives.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

I've been sitting here trying to wonder, what's a good way to explain why "transwomen are women" is stupid to the average person. I remember seeing a video a while back (now deleted) where a guy explains that the reason they use "anyone who identifies as a woman" argument is so popular is because all other definitions for women also include feminine men and/or exclude some women. I just want a good way to plant a seed of doubt in certain progressives.

Philosophically speaking, it's a viciously circular definition, and worthless.

To answer the second part (that any definition necessarily includes effeminate men or some women), ask them how adult human female includes effeminate men or excludes women.

Of course, what they're accusing you of is "you can't come up with a definition of woman that will include all the people you consider women and none of the people you don't". This is bullshit, because they already know what's on the list. Everyone they think is assigned female at birth, if she grows to adulthood, is a woman.

Next.

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

all other definitions for women also include feminine men and/or exclude some women

"Adult human female" doesn't do this, which is why they get so angry about it. No need to overcomplicate it.

You may be asked to define male/female: they are the two developmental pathways the human body may take to produce one of two gametes: large or small (eggs or sperm). All human bodies will take one of these two paths, even if they do not successfully produce the relevant gamete. There is no third gamete. Nobody is both male and female and nobody is neither. Some animals can change sex, humans cannot. Some animals are hermaphroditic, humans are not. Some organisms are asexual, humans are not.

Of course, this won't be enough for some progressives but you don't need to convince them all. As men are banned from women's sports and surgeries and hormone treatments become more and more restricted, the onus will be on them to substantiate their claims.

 

[mmm semen]

I've been sitting here trying to wonder, what's a good way to explain why "transwomen are women" is stupid to the average person. I remember seeing a video a while back (now deleted) where a guy explains that the reason they use "anyone who identifies as a woman" argument is so popular is because all other definitions for women also include feminine men and/or exclude some women. I just want a good way to plant a seed of doubt in certain progressives.

I've been telling them to flip the definition. A woman is anything and everything except male.

 

[EllenDrawsRapeOfHerHaters]

Why are troons always in my hobbies??? I've never considered trooning out, is there some genetic variation to explain this? I am autistic so it can't be that.

 

[Vandyke Clown]

I just want a good way to plant a seed of doubt in certain progressives.

Agree with them enthusiastically and lament about how trans-black people are being cruelly prevented from living their authentic black lives because of all the bigots using transracephobic terms like “blackface”, which is really just race-affirming shoe polish.

If they agree that a black person is anyone who identifies as black, your white ass can safely come out to them and start dropping n-bombs, as is your right as a true and real black person.

Ask them to contribute to your Crowdfunder as a micro-reparation to compensate you for the historical inequities your people have suffered, and be sure to call them transracist if they refuse.

If they comment that you don’t look black, explain that you don’t need to conform to their white supremacist standard of blackness, or that you are racefluid and simply aren’t feeling black at the moment.

They may express doubt. Remind them of the continuous suffering that this doubt causes you, and that you might kill yourself if they keep misracing you, and that will make them complicit in the ongoing transracial genocide.

Drown them in their own bullshit.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

I've been sitting here trying to wonder, what's a good way to explain why "transwomen are women" is stupid to the average person. I remember seeing a video a while back (now deleted) where a guy explains that the reason they use "anyone who identifies as a woman" argument is so popular is because all other definitions for women also include feminine men and/or exclude some women. I just want a good way to plant a seed of doubt in certain progressives.

The obvious point is that it requires circular reasoning. If they have no definition of a woman (and “anyone who identifies as one” is not that), then their argument is nonexistent.

To take it further: If trans women are women, then why do trans women feel dysphoria? Why do they need hormones and surgery? What is it that they’re trying to become, if they’re already women?

If it’s just about putting doubts in their heads, though, I like to use other questions. Such as:
- What is it that’s actually female in a trans woman, if she is physically male?
- Why is there so much overlap between trans women and autistic spectrum disorders?
- Why did we see such a sharp uptick in people discovering they were trans during the pandemic?
- Why has the greater number of trans women coming out not been accompanied by a corresponding reduction in male suicide rates?

I’m sure there are a million others. I don’t go in in a confrontational manner, I like to present it as “Well obviously we’re both on the same side, but I was wondering if you could explain…”

 

[The Judean People's Front]

Kiwisisters. . . I found out last night that a close relative pooned out and I'm so sad. The kid is only 14, and we haven't seen her in a while because her Mother is a BPD demon and keeps her away from wrongthink family. I can't help but think that this poor girl looked at her Mom's whoring around and primping for the opposite sex and decided her best option was to become one of her Boy love comic characters (the Dad is completely under Mom's thumb and WOKE, no hope there either, even if they're not together).

Anyway, I didn't know where else to vent about how this beautiful girl is now binding her chest and trying to get on hormones (thank God for the EO, it came at the exact right moment for her).

Sad thing is that, much like many other pooners, she's clearly just a gender nonconforming lesbian. But again, she's 14 and highly impressionable and has learned that this means she's for reals a boy.

So sad dudes. I hope she doesn't get sterilized.

 

[deermeat]

a gender nonconforming lesbian

has learned that this means she's for reals a boy.

Maybe I am being optimistic but this could be a sign she might not be far gone. A lot of HSTSs are more likely to detransition, at least pooners are. Mainly due to how easy it is to see the community is BS and how homophobic they are, how they prioritize straight people (fujos and transbians) than HSTSs who are more likely to experience actual GD and thus their identity isn't fueled by a porn addiction.
I was 14 when first being into the troon cult and it was the troon cult which first peaked me, though that and my mom being the real definition of being "violently transphobic". So I don't know if her mom being supportive will make her less likely to depoon, not to be a debbie downer but since her mom is a BPDer she could also try to convince the kid to never depoon as having a trans kid would make her come across more special.

I don't know where you live but thankfully all this seems to be happening while the tides are turning, so the likelihood of the daughter recieving HRT and puberty blockers is low. And with the tides finally turning, I'd imagine the whole world will be well aware of the troon cult, how its all nonsense, etc by the time she is 18, which means shes even less likely to still be involved in this stuff.