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Should be a wild four years.

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Not true, they are the descendants of the Dutch Europeans who started settling there at around 1650. It needs to be specified that the Boers/Afrikaners are descended from the Dutch because a lot of English came over later on but the two types of European stock did not get along and eventually went to war.
Historically there are the Boers and groups like the Cape Dutch who chose to not participate in the migrations and subsequent founding of the Boer republics that fought to remain independent from the British, ultimately lost and were absorbed into what later became South Africa as we know it today.

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It should perhaps also be the noted the United Kingdom was so determined to win against the Boers they set up some of the first concentration camps.
 
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Well, well, well.

This is big if it's true...

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TL;DR: Whistleblower comes forward and names names and files a criminal complaint against the governor of Pennsylvania and implicates the former head of the FBI as well as Joe Biden himself, in the attempted assassination of Trump at Butler.
I want this to be true for the sole reason that I want to witness the historical (hopefully very public) shit fest that follows.
 
The first source says 'Some Evangelical leaders', and one of the named leaders is 'The Rev. Gabriel Salguero, who is the president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition', and is quoted as saying '“If we’re concerned with immigration, shouldn’t we also be concerned about how foreign aid helps people stay in their country and flourish?” he said.' So already there's a disconnect between what this guy wants and what Trump's base has loudly clamoured for. The other cited leader is 'Walter Kim... president of the National Association of Evangelicals, was a pastor in multiethnic and Korean immigrant churches for nearly 30 years before he joined the association full time.'

Your second source just cites the first.

Your source also concludes:
Self-identified evangelical Protestants are about a quarter of the U.S. population. And as a voting bloc, they were crucial in electing Trump in November, according to a postelection survey from the Public Religion Research Institute. With people of color making up nearly 1 in 3 evangelicals, strong support for Trump among Latino evangelicals helped him make inroads with the overall Hispanic electorate. Fifteen percent of U.S. Latinos identify as evangelical Protestants.

The Rev. Samuel Rodríguez remains supportive of Trump and his actions.
Edit: I just want to add: It feels like you read the headline, and didn't go further. The idea that he's losing Evangelicals isn't even proven in the source it just highlights two leaders who are concerned about foreign aid, but one of the named leaders still supports Trump regardless? It's creating a hypothesis based on conjecture.
 
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I agree with you, but the problem is, these Evangelical groups formed the core of Trump's base. If they turn on him, it's like what if every brown person turned on the Democrats.
1. Stop trusting mainstream news.
2. Stop dooming, that's how you end up in a burger suit
3. Just because a handful of Progressive libshits who present themselves as Evangelicals turn on Trump does not mean that his base will.

Conservatives have had to deal with people who don't toe the Globalist line being de-platformed while the RINOs are held up as the GOOD republicans for decades now. We don't give a shit what a news article says and if my pastor suddenly came out and said "muh drumpf is evil orange nazi" I would wonder how a demon managed to possess my pastor. Evangelicals SHOULD be focusing on culture and pushing their morals in a non-political way in the hopes that it'll bolster the spiritual wave everyone says they feel coming, not obsessing over nitty gritty politics.

Whatever your reasoning, you're making a mountain out of a hastily constructed MSM sand castle that will wash away with the next wave of Winning! ™️.
 
I agree with you, but the problem is, these Evangelical groups formed the core of Trump's base. If they turn on him, it's like what if every brown person turned on the Democrats.
This is retarded. As a staunch Evangelical, I can say the church should not be funded by the state, that's a string they can pull to coerce us. On top of already receiving tax cuts for being a religious institution it's not something people's money should be involuntarily going to. My church refused to take covid money from our state for these very reasons.

If your church is worried about money, then they might not be a church but a business.
 
Televangelists that are paid by USAID are mad, but the rank-and-file evangelical treat Trump like the second coming. That will never change. Trump could do a spirit-cooking-esque ritual and evangelicals would hold the blood container.
Put Trump in a feathered headdress and hand him an obsidian dagger to cut out the still beating hearts of his enemies presented to him on an altar. He'll say "I am America's best priest king. They built me this pyramid because they trust me to carry out the will of the gods. The blood of our foes will nourish this land and the corn harvest will be 'uge"

I'm digging it.
 
Televangelists that are paid by USAID are mad, but the rank-and-file evangelical treat Trump like the second coming. That will never change. Trump could do a spirit-cooking-esque ritual and evangelicals would hold the blood container.
A lot of evangelist support for Trump seems to be more pragmatic then anything else considering the victories he has delivered for pro-life advocates and other Christian political objectives. Trump messianists exist but they are a somewhat odd and fringe group.
 
I never talk about politics in real life, but this weekend I met various liberals who got me to say a thing or two. They obviously don't agree with Trump but they weren't acting like if he were Hitler or anything. In fact, they were happy USAID was being gutted and couldn't understand why other liberals were now suddenly all in for USAID. From what I gathered, they all thought that Trump has been mostly good but has done some stupid things like his comments on Gaza and tariffs possibly causing a trade war.

These were three different people and three different conversations. They were all men ages 27-35.
 
A lot of evangelist support for Trump seems to be more pragmatic then anything else considering the victories he has delivered for pro-life advocates and other Christian political objectives. Trump messianists exist but they are a somewhat odd and fringe group.
The argument that right-wing Christian fundamentalists will vote for pro-tranny, pro-gay, anti-Christian Democrats just because Trump is Orange Man Bad™ is facially absurd. Anyone who genuinely believes this is huffing copium.
 
How can anyone be stupid enough to fall for this? It’s a collection of OF whores, faggots, with the occassional dyke and obvious TikTok grifter. It just doesn’t look genuine at all.

"Longtime Republican voter here, but I just can't support [CURRENT R POSITION/LEADER]" was a hoary old staple of Letters to the Editor pages long before comments sections existed, and was just as believable as the modern incarnation.
 
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They are so close to realizing, selling out in punk is the faggiest thing one can do. Relying on Reddit, a corporation, is the antithesis of punk. Punk got terrible when bad actors integrated into the communities and made it about consumerism rather than self reliance and the DIY philosophies; in my opinion.
This. I remember back in the 2000s there were Punk DIY YouTube channels that railed on Hot Topic for their shit tier stud work and inferior meterials. These guys showed you how to do the studding yourself, how to source materials and some patching.
 
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