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What are the UAP?

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The drone thing is probably miliary contractors testing out their new technologies (Skunk Works tech wise).
It is. I was visiting family near an air base in December and I got to see several of these drones fly in formation near the base for about a week around Christmas.

They had regular identification lights. You could hear fans, but they weren’t very loud. No weird anti-grav phenomena or abductions as far as I was aware. They moved slowly.

They only flew on clear nights and never in adverse weather.

I think it was just a test for flying drones in formation, either as hostile drone defense, or maybe for mass surveillance.

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I personally think none of these people who are doing the media tour as of late know anything beyond second hand accounts and the things they've read. The whole topic is being moved along the same way news organizations post bullshit stories and quote one another as sources then move the same bullshit to Wikipedia effectively penning their own fabrications into the history books. The only difference is it's being done on a personal level between ex government employees who all conveniently have some kind of monetary skin in the game like a book or startup company. I really think big answers and hard evidence would have to come from private industry aerospace companies that would be sitting on this stuff if it truly is in the possession of man.
 
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I personally think none of these people who are doing the media tour as of late know anything beyond second hand accounts and the things they've read. The whole topic is being moved along the same way news organizations post bullshit stories and quote one another as sources then move the same bullshit to Wikipedia effectively penning their own fabrications into the history books. The only difference is it's being done on a personal level between ex government employees who all conveniently have some kind of monetary skin in the game like a book or startup company. I really think big answers and hard evidence would have to come from private industry aerospace companies that would be sitting on this stuff if it truly is in the possession of man.
I think the feeling on this thread is that the recent outburst of disclosure activity is more to do with grift and boomers learning to internet, whereas only 10 years ago, this stuff was confined to paranormal conventions. And if you've been one of those, oh boy. I mean it's fascinating, but it's everything from Tarot and crystals to "real" photos of crashed saucers. The information being presented currently is a whole lot of hot air with maybe 1% of something real mixed in.

But either way, some people learned to make decent money this way and that's what they do, except it's on podcasts now. BTW, David Paulides is probably a bit of a pioneer of this stuff, way before Joe Rogan and Jake Paul started looking their way. Except his grift is much more sustainable. If one of his missing cases turns up, happy days, the relatives get to learn what happened. It's a good news story. Meanwhile, the source material is vast and when he's done with North America, he can do other parts of the world.

Disclosure isn't new BTW, I remember The Anomalist harp on about it like 15-20 years ago. Once he was done with the Electric Universe and Sasquatch...

BTW, notice how the New Jersey drone thing has faded into the background, especially with the recent plane crashes (there is a new one in Philadelphia today, for anyone who's been asleep). Meanwhile those drones are probably out there, the normal ones and the weird ones.
 
some interesting threads
comment section is very funny, people are still not happy and are still mostly rejecting Lue as well as Barber
i have noticed rUFO is still a bit of a hornets nest after Barber
i expected things to have calmed down by now but they havent, guess it might take a few more weeks
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being fair i think people just want to know "where is this going?" more than anything, and silence from people like Grusch is not helping
i just wanna know how many more usual suspects are going to pile on to the woo
we will have to wait for them to say too much as they always do
 
I'm listening to his wacky story but I have to interrupt that for this:

Politico: FBI agents who investigate UFOs worried they could be pushed out in possible purge (archive) (Reddit)
The existence of the FBI’s informal working group on the issue has not been disclosed publicly before. Graves and three other people familiar with the group said it consists of a national program manager and more than a dozen employees across the country who spend much of their time tracking down UAPs.
The Debrief: The FBI Confirms It Has a Secretive “UAP Working Group,” but Agents Now Worry Their Jobs Could Be in Jeopardy (archive)
Newsweek: Secretive FBI Group Probing UFOs Worried They'll Get Purged by DOGE: Report (archive)
Daily Beast: FBI Has a Secret UFO Squad Who Fear What Trump Will Do (archive)


https://x.com/BarnettParker/status/1886553019959181559 (ghost) (Reddit)
FBI response by email: While we have no comment on any questions regarding FBI personnel matters, the FBI investigates Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena when there is potential for a violation of federal law—particularly unlawful acts that could adversely affect our national interests—and to gather, share, and analyze intelligence to combat security threats facing the U.S.

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Ross Coulthart accurately calling the existence of a secret FBI UFO investigation 5 days ago that Politico just confirmed today.

Retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet says the documentary 'The Age of Disclosure' will premier on March 9th



Representatives Luna and Moskowitz imply an important announcement is coming in the near future - Potential UAP Subcommittee?
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Daily Mail: UFO-believing congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna's cryptic message has everyone saying the same thing (archive) (Reddit)
 
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Liberation Times: Trump Administration Officials Set For UFO Talks (archive) (Reddit)
Retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, former Acting Administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), announced on X today that he is meeting with officials from the Trump Administration this week to discuss a comprehensive, whole-of-government approach to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).
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https://x.com/GallaudetTim/status/1887519706707321333 (archive)
My thoughts from the @_SolFoundation symposium on a whole of government approach for the U.S. regarding #UAP. I am meeting with Trump Administration officials this week to work towards that end.


The Black Vault: The DoD Inspector General’s Evaluation of the DoD’s Actions Regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (archive) (PDF attached)

UPDATE ADDED FEBRUARY 6, 2025​

DoD/IG Release – FOIA Case DODOIG-2021-000806 – Interim Release 2

“There’s some things I’ve seen proof of that I can’t discuss. I’ve urged the White House to disclose these things…", "it’s time that we have total disclosure

Rep. Steve Cohen declares that the New Jersey Drones were A "Viral Internet Hoax" at today’s House Aviation Subcommittee hearing on counter-UAS.

Fox News: Rubio named acting director of another US government agency: report (archive) (Reddit) - "Secretary of State Marco Rubio is also serving as acting director of the US Archives, a report says"

World of Reel: Steven Spielberg's Latest Gets A New Title (archive) (Reddit) - It's Disclosure, about UFOs, and set to release on May 15, 2026.

Steven Greer claims he was offered 2 billion dollars by Major General Albert Stubblebine to stop investigating UFOs



In this deleted tweet, Pasulka compares Chris Bledsoe to Paul Bennewtiz and Jim Semivan to Rick Doty. (archive)
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Rep. Luna's big announcement next week will be a Government Declassification Unit, including but not limited to UFOs. Here's a Twitter thread by UAP News explaining why.
https://unrollnow.com/status/1887558936037106077 - Someone's argument, not confirmed.
 

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Ask a Pol: EXCLUSIVE — Rep. Chris Smith on UAP swarms: "one went down, we’re told, over Langley" (archive) (Reddit)
Ask a Pol: What UAPs? “It's our adversaries," Sen. Mark Kelly says foes regularly invade US airspace (archive) (Reddit)

Ken Klippenstein of The Intercept – Who Attacked David Grusch by Revealing His Private Medical Records – Paid by USAID? (archive/200+)

"Drones" Now *Following* Police - Sweetwater Co. (WY) Sheriff's Lt. Fischer: "Drones" (UAP) observed over a power plant *followed* the deputies dispatched to record them. The objects *followed the officers for "30-some miles."*

 
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well that escalated quickly...
really though, whole place has been on edge since Jake, but i dont know how the COUNTLESS amount of ads in Jesses videos didnt tip them off?
every 20 minutes or so he would run a full on ad for a product, like clockwork, and it was quite jarring
but its really nice to see more talk about the group of rich people hovering around the UFO topic and throwing money at people like Jesse
seeing more and more talk about Nexstar Media Group is always good
this guy might be worse than Jeremy
there was a funny moment where this guy thought he got a massive own on Mick in an interview very recently
Mick said, as he has said before, after designing Sitrec and showcasing it, the government noticed his program and its potential, and decided to fund Mick West to continue to develop it, which is interesting because of how well it has worked in explaining more recent aviation crashes/accidents
Marik dishonestly suggested that this meant that Mick was paid by the government "to debunk" UFOs, which when you know the utility of Sitrec you could see why the gov would throw a bit of money at just 1 dude who has already designed it and now just has to tweak it continuously
whats funnier is what Marik admitted to in the same interview, which IMO is actually pretty serious for a UFO talking head
an email was sent to Mick and Marik in private, that leveled some ambiguity to Micks explanation but didnt pick a side really
Marik read the email thinking it proved his point, and Mick read it as not taking much of a stance, but if anything, thought it was slightly agreeing with Mick
they were told, both of them, "do NOT release this email", but after Mick pushed Marik on it in the interview about who exactly released it?
he admitted to being the one who released that email, saying that he believed it was more important that people see that email (because he thought it disagreed with Mick)
i cant imagine another source trusting Marik after that one, imagine burning your reputation because you hate some dork programmer
truly cow behaviour
i remember the last rush on faith, that was a hoot, the Vatican decided to do a live stream on supernatural beings or something
the whole sub went nuts thinking this MUST mean the Vatican were about to open the vaults and give up the aylmaos and all the UFOs hidden by the Church
this was it, this was disclosure!
was VERY funny when the live stream started talking about ghosty-woo-woos and apparitions :story: not 1 mention of aliens
 
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Greenstreet makes a post about Spielberg's new "Disclosure" documentary
Did a false UFO story told by dubious ex-intelligence agents inspire Steven Spielberg's new movie?
I'm still chasing leads, and connecting some dots, but here's a factual timeline:
2017 - Former intelligence official Lue Elizondo goes public to falsely claim he was the director of a Pentagon UFO program

2018 - Dan Farah produces Steven Spielberg's "Ready Player One". Farah was the one who secured the movie rights for the "Ready Player One" book.

2018-2020 - Lue Elizondo does multiple media appearances, along with other ex-intelligence officials, making false claims about UFO "disclosure"

2020 - Dan Farah produces a factually inaccurate UFO documentary, "The Phenomenon". It features the same ex-intelligence officials telling unfounded tall tales

2021 - Lue Elizondo lands a big book deal. The deal was brokered by Spielberg producer Dan Farah

2022 - My exclusive @NYPOST report reveals Elizondo's claims are false. Elizondo temporarily disappears from public media appearances

2023 - My 2nd exclusive @NYPOST report reveals even more lies and deception behind Elizondo's claims

2023 - Book stores worldwide begin listing Elizondo's book, titled "Disclosure", on their websites

2024 - Steven Spielberg announces his next project, a UFO movie soon to be reportedly titled "Disclosure"

2024 - My 3rd exclusive @NYPOST report reveals move lies and deception behind Elizondo's claims

2024 - Elizondo's lawyers send out aggressive legal threats to multiple Elizondo critics

2024 - Book stores worldwide show a change to the title of Elizondo's book, from "Disclosure" to "Imminent"

2024 - Elizondo's Farah-brokered UFO book is released August 2024

2024 - UFO believers launch public campaign to get me fired from @NYPOST

2025 - Elizondo publicly finger wags at @NYPOST for continuing to employ me

2025 - Dan Farah announces his new UFO documentary, titled "The Age of Disclosure", starring Lue Elizondo

2025 - Steven Spielberg's UFO movie, reported to be titled "Disclosure", begins filming in New Jersey

2025 - Elizondo (who lives in Wyoming) goes to New Jersey for the 2nd time in 4 months.
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also asks a fair enough question considering all this money flooding in to the topic
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AARO: “Go Fast” Case Resolution (PDF attached) (Reddit)
The object’s performance characteristics are consistent with historical wind conditions in each scenario. AARO assesses the object did not demonstrate anomalous performance characteristics.

The object’s apparent high speed is attributable to motion parallax.

Justin Snead: NASA’s UAP Efforts: the hope of 2023 vs. the reality of 2024 (archive) (Reddit)
By the end of 2023, NASA had a newly appointed Director of UAP Research and a raft of recommendations from the independent UAP Study Team it had commissioned to advise NASA on how to use its assets to study UAP.
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What outcomes did this wealth of UAP assets produce in 2024? So far as we know, very little of consequence
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According to Mike Gold, the position was vacated a year later and remains vacant.

Christopher Sharp - Suffolk & Norfolk Constabularies are refusing to release information they have regarding the Lakenheath drone incursions


https://preservetube.com/watch?v=FQb5P4lkeik (Reddit)

Dr. Carl Sagan: “Air Force surveillance radar is throwing away the data” (1968 )
My version of the squid ufo (archive)
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Rep. Luna’s press conference WILL BE about UAPs -staffer
https://x.com/redpandakoala/status/1889055069997576458 (archive)
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Chairman Comer & Rep. Luna to Hold Press Conference on New Oversight Committee Task Force (archive) (Reddit) - Get ready for disappointment at 3:00pm ET tomorrow.

Jeremy Corbell says Commander Fravor of the tic-tac incident was told by the CIA that the craft he saw was Lockheed Martin technology.

Raw Story (Matt Laslo): Republican suggests that Trump’s lying about N.J. drone invasion: 'Are you kidding me?' (archive) (Reddit)

The Guardian: What really happened in Calvine? The mystery behind the best UFO picture ever seen (archive) (Reddit)
 

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its always the same
people push, whinge and demand more studies and for it to be taken more seriously
but once it is taken more seriously the people paying the bill soon realises why nobody took it seriously in the past
there is nothing to study, nothing TO take seriously, and anything worth studying has already been studied and usually exists in the low information zone anyway
all they can do is what Lue ended up doing for the government, "yes i believe a gravity drive will be future tech we should explore" (no seriously, that was Lues job, to pontificate shit like that)
its a waste of time and a waste of money, all so what? so UFO retards can say call their analysis disinformation and send them death threats?
"we need to study this", "we need to allocate more spending to this", "this is a matter of safety and this needs to be addressed"
no matter the excuse or reason, it always ends the same way, with nothing to look in to and nothing actually being done

NASA has had budget cut after cut after cut, and it hasnt gotten any better recently, it has actually got worse
i watched a interview with a dude from the UAP group in NASA, a recent one, and he basically said funding is getting felted right now, and the only hope they have is that the incoming administration is more interested in NASA projects
 
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