US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[Coptakhenaten]

I think Dan from Lotus Eaters crunched the numbers (or stole someone else's homework) and found that if you raised retirement age to 70 you'd immediately save $1 Trillion.

I've paid into the SS system for years now, but I KNOW that any money I get out of it will not be worth shit. We need to pick a hard date so people have time to plan and retire the program.

I would say younger millenials onwards, they've been the most cynical about not getting social security anyways.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

I think earlier last week they said they're gearing up to audit the Pentagon soon. God knows how much waste is in that fucking department.

Hegseth has asked for the DOD to be the next subject for the audits on more than one occasion. He’s serious about cutting out the rot and reforming the DOD.

 

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https://x.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1889003029409493029

Over the weekend they tried a TRO to fuck with DOGE.

Trump Admin responded saying funding isn't affected by the TRO.

Judge responded saying that the TRO covers funding freezes too (it absolutely does not) and prohibits the Government from cutting funding from ANYONE or ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, until the court is done hearing everything. Which will be months if not years, especially if they slow roll and delay it (and they will).

This is a... what's the inverse of an ex-parte order? It's the Judge basically bringing shit up that wasn't argued or asked, and covers WAY more than what was in discussion.


This is how desperate they are. A Judge just said that the Trump admin has no right to do ANYTHING with money that goes against the Biden admin and the Uniparty's unelected slush fund admins like USAID's wishes. Why? Just absolutely because.

Some dickhead judge in Rhode Island has said so, and thus Trump has no choice but to obey.

They are beyond terrified.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-10/trump-to-loosen-enforcement-of-us-law-banning-overseas-bribes

optics being morale & counter optics of backdoor deals

To add some reasoning to this; Most business done abroad, be it Eastern Europe, Asia, Mid-east or South America, is run on 'bribes', or what corporate western HR classes as a 'bribe'. It isn't, it's a cultural phenomenon where the highest bidder, offering the best gift, wins the contract.

A 'bribe' in those parts of the world is just courting the person or team awarding the business and gift giving is seen as a sign of respect.
This is less about politicians turning up with suitcases full of money - which is sometimes seen as a disrespectful thing to do, and more about a businessman who knows how foreign business deals go down.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

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Send them to El Salvador.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

I think Dan from Lotus Eaters crunched the numbers (or stole someone else's homework) and found that if you raised retirement age to 70 you'd immediately save $1 Trillion.

I've paid into the SS system for years now, but I KNOW that any money I get out of it will not be worth shit. We need to pick a hard date so people have time to plan and retire the program.

30% of 65+ Americans have diabetes. 40% are Obese. (not just overweight). Many have back problems as a result. Average life expectancy is 77 years old. Even if you were to extend SS payments until 70 you'll just have homeles/dead old sick people.

 

[Breadbassket]

I think Dan from Lotus Eaters crunched the numbers (or stole someone else's homework) and found that if you raised retirement age to 70 you'd immediately save $1 Trillion.

I've paid into the SS system for years now, but I KNOW that any money I get out of it will not be worth shit. We need to pick a hard date so people have time to plan and retire the program.

The current solutions to "fix" Social Security being thrown around right now, as it is expected to begin having payment problems in the 2030s are as follows:
1. Raise the retirement age
2. Raise the payroll tax
3. Combination of the previous two options

To my understanding Republicans tend to back raising the retirement age and Democrats advocate for raising the payroll tax. The system as a whole is under a lot of stress since pensions are in relative decline in the United States and retirement seems more fraught with uncertainty. Desire for some sort of economic security in old age is understandable but I'm unsure how sustainable the current government setup is.

 

[Chuckwagon]

Rhode Island judge John J. McConnell declares that ackshually the executive branch has no authority over the bureaucracy and spending whatsoever, thus the Trump administration must restore all the spending it's been cutting. (Archive) Between this & that other judge from New York saying that DOGE can't do anything and the Treasury Secretary ackshually has no authority over his own department & its data if it would help them in any way, I think it's fair to say that the left is attempting yet another coup via the judicial branch, perhaps inspired by that De Moraes faggot in Brazil.

America is well overdue for another Jacksonian 'retarded judge has made his retarded ruling, now let him enforce it' moment, may Trump impeach these cunts in robes and add 'buckbreaking the judiciary harder than Jackson fucked Marshall and Lincoln fucked Taney' to his list of achievements by the end of these four years.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

30% of 65+ Americans have diabetes. 40% are Obese. (not just overweight). Many have back problems as a result. Average life expectancy is 77 years old. Even if you were to extend SS payments until 70 you'll just have homeles/dead old sick people.

Most of our health problems will end if we nuked all subsidies for corn, rapeseed, and soy agriculture and then also end all college subsidies which actually increase tuition costs, making the physician practice inflated in price.

 

[John Shedletsky]

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Over the weekend they tried a TRO to fuck with DOGE.

Trump Admin responded saying funding isn't affected by the TRO.

Judge responded saying that the TRO covers funding freezes too (it absolutely does not) and prohibits the Government from cutting funding from ANYONE or ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, until the court is done hearing everything. Which will be months if not years, especially if they slow roll and delay it (and they will).

This is a... what's the inverse of an ex-parte order? It's the Judge basically bringing shit up that wasn't argued or asked, and covers WAY more than what was in discussion.


This is how desperate they are. A Judge just said that the Trump admin has no right to do ANYTHING with money that goes against the Biden admin and the Uniparty's unelected slush fund admins like USAID's wishes. Why? Just absolutely because.

Some dickhead judge in Rhode Island has said so, and thus Trump has no choice but to obey.

They are beyond terrified.

Hoping Trump just ignores this and continues on.

 

[Fuck Bankers]

Most of our health problems will end if we nuked all subsidies for corn, rapeseed, and soy agriculture and then also end all college subsidies which actually increase tuition costs, making the physician practice inflated in price.

100% agreed. That is why social security can stay.

 

[GunCar Gary]

A Judge just said that the Trump admin has no right to do ANYTHING with money that goes against the Biden admin and the Uniparty's unelected slush fund admins like USAID's wishes. Why? Just absolutely because.

is there any precedent for what happens now or is this more "historic times" bullshit?

 

[whoishomermynameis]

 

[draggs]

The US offered clandestine support to Greece in its civil war by taking over the existing British operation. Korea was a bigger deal because the US sent its own boys over to fight and die against communists directly.

The Korean War was the first time that the US went to war to defend a foreign country in a conflict that did not directly relate to the US. Japan attacked the US. Germany declared war on the US. The US sent its soldiers in the first head-to-head conflict against communists to defend a country against communist aggression. Are you arguing that this is not significant and that this is not more indicative of the US doing "empire" than the US offering under-the-table support of anti-communist Greeks?

The US Congress publicly vooted $400 million to Greece and Turkey in May 1947. How is that clandestine? That marked the shift from the semi-secret support the US assumed responsibility for from Britain to public support. Congress also vooted $13 billion in 1948 for the Marshall Plan. All of these things, dozens of them, established the US as the non-communist empire before 1950

This is exactly what I'm talking about, you're simply wrong but you will never ever admit it so you just keep repeating wrong things and now you're asking me dumb self-serving questions about what I really meant like it isn't already obvious. The Korean War did not establish the US as a formal world empire is what I really meant. That's why I said it. Your history is incorrect. The US was already formally the anti-communist world empire before the Korean War

 

[Lian Xing]

STATE OF NEW YORK VS U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
The response of the Treasury

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>we are complying with your obviously bullshit court order
That's disappointing. I was hoping he'd go full Jackson.

 

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is there any precedent for what happens now or is this more "historic times" bullshit?

We are firmly in coup territory now. Their stance is literally "The Trump Admin's executive branch doesn't have authority to do anything that the Unelected Clerk State doesn't want to let him do."

Either they get stopped immediately, they get ignored, or we have a serious, serious problem.

 

[Breadbassket]

Lawfare is a dreadful thing.

 

[indomitable snowman]

I don't think Kendrick mocked White Americans in the halftime show. He seemed to be talking about the division of the country, and the horrible actions of it's elite. While making it so Black liberals will defend it no matter what. I thought it was genius.

I just heard random incoherent mumbles spoken over synth hi-hat loops, randomly interspersed by Samuel L Jackson.

 

[Lian Xing]

and thus Trump has no choice but to obey.

Trump doesn't have to obey, but he needs enough people in enough places to pull it off.

 

[Sammich]

I have two main points of contention, everything else I either moderately or enthusiastically endorse.

1 - The Israel and Gaza stuff. However, this was unlikely to be much different under Kamala anyway, so although I don't like it I understand it is unavoidable.
2 - The tech bro stuff. Digital ID and neuralink all the sort of ideas that Larry Ellison and the like talk about, more or less WEF ideas scaled down to fit in Trump's new-nationalism model of politics. Its spooky and I don't like it, but again the alternative was more gay race communism so of the two options I guess we got the better deal?

Apart from these caveats he has exceeded my expectations in almost every way so far.

The Ukraine stuff was a stumble on his part, I let it go because "i'll end the war on day one" is mostly just Trump being Trump. I'm content if we get an audit, and a stop to all gibs. I still know the left will shriek about it no matter what.
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The Israel Gaza stuff I just want to stop hearing about it, I don't care too much about either side there, as long as no US military involvement.
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The tech bro shit, yeah, it's concerning, Thiel/Musk and bros are sketchy to me. Musk is doing great work, and his DOGE kids seem to be top tier. I don't worry to much about the WEF stuff, i worry about Thiel's play into a huge defense contractor. We will always have those, and I think pushing out raytheon and the like is a good thing, but not sure a new one is goign to be any better really. Don't know how accurate this is, but it's a bit of a primer into what is going on with Thiel/Musk + bros.
https://www.techtransparencyproject.org/articles/inside-palantirs-expanding-influence-operation