E/ACC, Rationalist, AI and tech subforum - niggas be using AI

[neger psykolog]

It seems like there's a bountiful number of "personalities" and sub communities within this space. I've seen several people say we need an e/acc sub forum, but I think it could be slightly broader to encompass tech people and sub communities.

People like Aella, Elon Musk, that one rationalist tranny cult from a week ago who shot people, Elizer/Less Wrong. There's hundreds of them out there.

I think even stuff like the code of conduct shit, hector martin and the like could find a home there.

To be clear: not a subforum about the tech itself but rather the wacky ass people people surrounding the tech.

 

[Maurice Maine]

A bunch of sophistry, scammers and crooks pretending to be businessmen, literal cultists who think they're building god and burning effigies in the office and transhumanists who want to become furries. That's the down-low. I could spend days writing about the shit I've seen.

 

[August Levasseur]

Kiwifarms showing shareholders how it's using AI to transform its business and provide new opportunities in Lolcow-based entertainment.

 

[neger psykolog]

Also note that this isn't even a new topic in the Farms, Rationalism and its cult-like followers are well known and documented. They are a very small subset of people who follow Nietzsche's beliefs, though. The movement is highly influential in Silicon Valley and has largely dominated intellectual discussion for at least 20 years now.
See:

• Aella, the "came in fluffer" sperg
• Eliezer Yud
• Mencius Moldbug (Curtis Yarvin), leader of "The Dark Enlightenment" together with Nick Land, famously structures his ideas from Rationalism
• RadFemHitler, a notable orbiter with traces all over the threads
• Beff Jezos, leader of the "e/acc"
• Bronze Age Pervert, not a Rationalist but a very important figure in the dissident right, who claims his ideas come from Nietzsche

Bryan Johnson the guy trying to extend his life and extend his nighttime erections is another contender:

At some point there's going to need to be an e/acc subforum, because all of those people are crazy.

 

[Null]

There is absolutely no reason why Internet and Technology, which is already slow and underused, cannot accommodate this.

 

[neger psykolog]

There is absolutely no reason why Internet and Technology, which is already slow and underused, cannot accommodate this.

That's mostly about the actual tech from what I can see - Bryan Johnson doesn't fit in there.

Again it's not about "I found a cool AI tool" but more about "holy shit look at this insane rationalist polycule trying to overthrow OpenAI"

It's a very broad "movement" that I guess includes "technology personalities" - a few people have suggested either a megathread just for e/acc alone or a subforum (which could include an e/acc thread)

 

[Maurice Maine]

There is absolutely no reason why Internet and Technology, which is already slow and underused, cannot accommodate this.

Problem is nobody uses the fucking AI threads. Everything gets clumped on the ChatGPT thread... I'd have thought that now that AI is srs business people would push for something but nope. I personally think it's history in the making so there's got to be a good thread so people know who fucked them over out of a job to Clippy 9000. This is about the insane asylum in SV not the tech.

 

[neger psykolog]

Problem is nobody uses the fucking AI threads. Everything gets clumped on the ChatGPT thread... I'd have thought that now that AI is srs business people would push for something but nope. I personally think it's history in the making so there's got to be a good thread so people know who fucked them over out of a job to Clippy 9000. This is about the insane asylum in SV not the tech.

This is what I'm trying to get at:

I ain't reading this shit but from browsing xitter, "e/acc" in name or bio is worse than pronouns. The only difference is the e/acc females, who are all thots, seem to be actual females.

"The insane asylum of SV" is a very apt way to put it. These people are all over Twitter + KF seems to have some people who either follow some of these people or have a high interest in the tech sector.

Given the amount of money involved in the space and how niche/novel it is and how many bizarre people there are it could be a fascinating hotspot of activity - I can't think of anywhere else on the internet that has something like it.

 

[Null]

Problem is nobody uses the fucking AI threads

what do you think happens when we make a new board? the threads don't have enough traffic as is in an existing board. making a new board does not resolve that issue.

unless you're talking about an on-topic thread??? that belongs in community watch

 

[Maurice Maine]

unless you're talking about an on-topic thread??? that belongs in community watch

I'll try to draft an OP and see if people like it, quite a few tangentially related groups to talk about

 

[CrunkLord420]

That's mostly about the actual tech from what I can see - Bryan Johnson doesn't fit in there.

Again it's not about "I found a cool AI tool" but more about "holy shit look at this insane rationalist polycule trying to overthrow OpenAI"

It's a very broad "movement" that I guess includes "technology personalities" - a few people have suggested either a megathread just for e/acc alone or a subforum (which could include an e/acc thread)

I openly encourage people to use the Tech Board for tech-adjacent stuff. Including ecelebs or other noteworthy people who might not be "lolcows", but are discussion worthy. The board needs more discussion, not less. If it starts to become too much then we break it off, not before. The tech board is about tech culture as much as it is about distro/language circlejerks.

e/acc is probably Community Watch worthy.

 

[neger psykolog]

I'll try to draft an OP and see if people like it, quite a few tangentially related groups to talk about

Yeah a community watch thread could be a good start.

For everyone else I guess we could just see how things go but it seems likely there's going to be more and more threads about this area. So if not now then maybe the idea can be revisited later on.

In my mind it would just be a subforum were all this crazy ass silicon valley/tech cult stuff goes along with Bryan Johnson and e/acc and bronze age pervert and all the adjacent shit - none of this stuff is slowing down and is consistently accelerating because it's an extremely active and growing tech bubble and it seems like it will generate interest on its own some day.

 

[Maurice Maine]

Yeah a community watch thread could be a good start.

For everyone else I guess we could just see how things go but it seems likely there's going to be more and more threads about this area. So if not now then maybe the idea can be revisited later on.

In my mind it would just be a subforum were all this crazy ass silicon valley/tech cult stuff goes along with Bryan Johnson and e/acc and bronze age pervert and all the adjacent shit - none of this stuff is slowing down and is consistently accelerating because it's an extremely active and growing tech bubble and it seems like it will generate interest on its own some day.

May I ask what BAP has to do with AI, though? Wasn't he some random history YouTuber?

 

[neger psykolog]

May I ask what BAP has to do with AI, though? Wasn't he some random history YouTuber?

In the OP there are some clear links to big tech people. Perhaps not a perfect candidate but definitely from TPOT which is adjacent.

 

[>-Ack!]

you could do a whole subforum on all the people peter thiel , elon musk and schlomo yudkowsky are tied to

 

[NotYourAverageNigga]

When i hear the word ¨rationalist¨ this is the first thing that i think of

Someone that works with or enjoys consuming rations

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Revive this thread:
Effective Altruism / EAs

 

[gagabobo1997]

gonna shill my on topic thread:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ai-der...i-technocultists-ai-debate-communities.197469

that encompasses pro-ai/e acc spergs and communities

 

[neger psykolog]

Revive this thread:
Effective Altruism / EAs

EA was "the thing" a few years back. Since the FTX exchange imploded and people looked into it closer it looks more like a cult/warning sign due to how much fucking money they ended up spending on AI safety programs instead of nets for malaria in mogadishu or whatever shit. And it wasn't a small amount of money either, we're talking tons of fucking money.
e/acc is born off of effective altruism - so effective altruism would be a part of it.

gonna shill my on topic thread:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ai-der...i-technocultists-ai-debate-communities.197469

that encompasses pro-ai/e acc spergs and communities

Yeah this would be a part of it too.

Like if you've watched the Silicon Valley TV show then basically anything that would go on there (it's a little dated though since they didn't really deal with AI doomers and boomers and coomers and all of that shit)

 

[Greedy Fly]

There's definitely a raft of Bay Area Rationalists threads (off the top of my head, Yudkowski, Aella, the AI doomer thread, I think there's a PG thread on the Zizians) but none of them are all that active. The problem with these guys is they're pretty insular and a lot of the milk production probably occurs offline, in-person while they're doing their little cult activities or drugging and "jailbreaking" each other. For example, we only get (long, spergy) writeups about the crazy goings-on at MIRI after someone defects; there's not a member live tweeting about it so it doesn't lend itself to active threads.

Rather than a new subforum or new thread I think it'd be better to revamp the Yudkowsky/LessWrong thread into a "Bay Area Rat/EA" thread and add more to the OPs of the other threads to link them together.