Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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Additionally, I did not feel it was equitable to bill my clients for various attempts to meet and confer with Mr. Greer, when Mr. Greer neither accepted nor rejected such invitations to
meet and confer. As I previously indicated at ECF No. 196-5, I attempted to meet and confer with Mr. Greer on six separate occasions. Id. at 2, ¶ 6. I request that the court order Mr. Greer to compensate me for 0.25 hours per “missed” meet and confer, for a total of $450.

There's the stinger for wasting Hardin's time by no-showing conferences. He even gave Russ 15 minutes before giving up, more generous than the standard 10 minute rule for ditching class if the teacher doesn't show.
 
I just hope Null can seize all his garbage intellectual properties

I'm assuming he would rather garnish Greer's wages first as that's the usual route for recovering debt owed. It's also unlikely that Null could directly seize anything that Greer owns unless both parties came to an agreement whereby Greer would sign over his copyrights to Null, which I don't think he would do. The court could possibly require Greer to put those things up for auction, but I doubt the court would consider them valuable enough to go down that path.

I'm assuming that Greer is going to fight against whatever Null attempts to do like the retard he is and wind up in a similar situation to Patrick Tomlinson where his idiotic insistence that he didn't own defendants anything resulted in him having to pay over twice the original amount awarded by the court.

How much does someone like Russ even make? He's basically broke and even if his wages were garnished it may take several years before the full debt is satisfied. Null probably wouldn't care if it did take years or might even like it better that way, but even with Hardin's very modest billing, this will be a hardship for Greer.
 
How much does someone like Russ even make? He's basically broke and even if his wages were garnished it may take several years before the full debt is satisfied. Null probably wouldn't care if it did take years or might even like it better that way, but even with Hardin's very modest billing, this will be a hardship for Greer.
If I were nool, I might just sign it over to Hardin along with another couple grand or so with an agreement he'll put forward "best efforts" to collect it, within the amount of the retainer. Pour encourager les autres. He may not pay much of it, he may not pay it all, but any time he gets a paycheck, the stub will have a line item letting him know that he's fucking PAYING for his shit.
I mean we are pretty special ed
You might even call us exceptional.
 
Via Barnes via Rekieta.
It's incredible that the book grifter and the bumbling drunk knew someone that is a competent lawyer.

By the way Null. Have you contacted Mario? The lawyer that's representing an indie dev against Jason Thor's (Pirate software) DMCA claim pro bono and joined the forum. He seems like someone worth checking out.
 
It's also unlikely that Null could directly seize anything that Greer owns unless both parties came to an agreement whereby Greer would sign over his copyrights to Null, which I don't think he would do.
Fun fact: intellectual property can be seized to satisfy a federal judgment in whole or in part. Case in point (well not directly on point). Goldman v. Simpson, No. SC 036340, 9125 Cal. Rptr. 4, 4–5 (Cal. App. Dep’t Super. Ct. Mar. 13, 2007). Yes, that Simpson, that Goldman.

That's how Goldman seized "I Did It." Joking, because it was called "If I Did It" but when Goldman published it, he made the "If" nearly invisible and the cover basically reads "I DID IT."
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It's a California case, but even in federal bankruptcy, all properties of the bankrupt are part of the bankruptcy estate and can be disposed of by the trustee.
 
Literally anything a judgment debtor owns (other than enumerated exceptions) is subject to attachment.
I once defended a seller's disclosure statement arbitration action where the plaintiffs declared bankruptcy in the middle of it but didn't disclose it to me or the arbitrator (and initially failed to disclose the litigation to the trustee) until they had already lost and fees had been ordered, claiming that they were protected from having to pay contractual attorney fees to my clients because of the bankruptcy stay. My clients spoke with a BK attorney who pointed out that, had we known of the bankruptcy, we could have offered the trustee something like $500 to buy out the Plaintiff's rights to the ongoing case (they were suing for ~$40k IIRC, which just so happened to be the amount their non-disclosed business was underwater, according to my clients, but their case was incredibly week). The clients didn't want to spend any more money, so the arbitration's final order is still technically pending until the bankruptcy estate finally closes someday, but if the Plaintiffs and their counsel weren't deceitful pieces of trash we could have literally bought the case out from under them and saved a bunch of my clients' money. That's why I think it would be great if Null could just buy out the underlying IP for this case and dismiss the case against himself.
 
Greer has to pay Null and Null will never see that money since you can't get blood from a rock.
Wage garnishments are a thing and Greer maybe like some of these fuckups I worked with where they live a financially unstable life since they quit their job as soon as a garnishment appears on the paystub.
 
I just hope Null can seize all his garbage intellectual properties
I want him to have Hardin make an offer on the keytar and have it bronzed as a trophy. Too bad Russ will demand too much money for it, probably demand the whole "take my name off your website first" thing too. Unfortunately he can't be forced to hand it over either.

The copyrights might be a different story.
 
I want Russ to have to pay dear feeder thousands of dollars and for him to have to give up his copyrights.

The payment is because of justice reasons. The copyrights is to give us metaphorical skulls of our enemies to mount on the gates to our site to act as deterrents.

No one cares about Melinda, not even Melinda; by the time we got that injunction she'd moved on to being a professional widow, but getting the copyright to his music and book is something tangible.
 
That's why I think it would be great if Null could just buy out the underlying IP for this case and dismiss the case against himself.

The problem is that owning it now and going forward would do nothing for prior contributory infringement that took place at a prior point in time when Rusty did own it. He would have to be willing to sign over any potential proceeds from the case itself to Null for it to make the case moot, no?
 
I'm starting to think the best way for Russ to handle this debt is to hand over all his copywrited material ownership to null.

Null can use any royalties to pay off the debt it will take about the same time to get the full amount anyway.
The most useful outcome of this case is a crushing sanctions amount that Null can point to when others get litigious.

The funniest outcome would be Null selling more copies of Greer songs and books than Greer ever did.
 
The most useful outcome of this case is a crushing sanctions amount that Null can point to when others get litigious.

The funniest outcome would be Null selling more copies of Greer songs and books than Greer ever did.
The Graphic Novel version of "Why I sued Taylir Swift and became Falsely Known as Frivolous, Litigious and Crazy" as publushed by "Kiwifarms a website" will be a NYT Best Seller. You will be able to just feel the emotions from the art just dripping or dribbling off every page.
 
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