Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[DavidS877]

Seems nice of Hardin to only list the fees that Null actually paid instead of his Fitzpatrick rate of $669. Any idea why he wouldn't have invoiced Russ for the full value of his time?

My retarded take is that Hardin is reading the room. This is a Pro Se retard doing stupid shit. The court is required to sanction him by rule so Hardin comes in with a reasonable and justified number that's not likely to be reduced.

If, on the other hand, Greer had counsel and pulled this shit then it's likely that Hardin could have come in at full rate and included every second he spent and gotten it as a way to smack down the stupidity.

 

[The Man With No Name]

I love that Russ's response to being slapped by fees is to go full unresponsive.

Russ, that won't help, you can't turn back now! But rooting for you to get those $225.

I believe from the correspondence and how he handled it that he's going to file something that's essentially "I thought when I objected to the motion the timer stops on the sanctions and I don't have to think about them at all and actually Hardin was badgering me and being mean to me which added to my stress" because he pulled that shit before too.

 

[obsdj]

I wonder who "that woman" is?
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Based on the 12/5 date, I am guessing it's in reference to this (footnote of ECF 187):



This goes back to Greer's original complaint in which he himself admits:



etc. etc. etc. -- that's the Erika chick, right? The one whose interactions are featured on his Encyclopedia Dramatica page?

Greer is going to respond to this with some plightsperging about how he was waiting for the district judge to rule on his objection and that's why he didn't engage with Hardin because how was he supposed to know that the case was still moving and it's not fair he thought deadlines were paused blah blah blah. Basically what he pulled last year.

He will absolutely 100% be doing this. But his complete failure to communicate with Hardin whatsoever when the fees and costs were sent, especially since he said he would reply after filing his objection, will hopefully work against him.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

A very reasonable rate that Greer will froth at the mouth at. The court will probably lower it just because. Still will be a lot more painful than russ anticipated through all this...

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

I love that Russ's response to being slapped by fees is to go full unresponsive.

Russ, that won't help, you can't turn back now! But rooting for you to get those $225.

I think he's finally internalising the message that every plightsperge Mr Hardin is forced to answer following a sanction just adds zeros to the bill.

Alas, the silent treatment is only appropriate in a limited number of situations, especially as the plaintiff. I'll let Russ figure out which ones.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Oh yeah, oh yeah? Well I, a PRO SE litigant, am actually billing myself $1000/hour and YOU, buddy-boy, are wasting MY time!

 

[BoobWhiskers]

Holy cow, at $300/hour for litigation work, Hardin is REALLY giving Null a sweetheart deal. I know it had been described as such already, but that's practically paralegal rates.

Bless him. If only more people were able and willing to stand up for the Farms like that.

 

[Kittehclaws]

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Is Virginia important somehow or is this a typo?

Virginia is where Melinda’s case was heard and since that is part of the filing Hardin had to show he was admitted to practice law in the state.

Also, props to Hardin on that rate for Null!

 

[Not At All A Lizard]

5k seems like exactly the right amount to me. At his normal rates it would be into 5 figures and way more likely to attract pity.

5k is an amount that even a pretty poor working person can scrape together, especially with a payment plan.

 

[FamicomGorby]

5k is an amount that even a pretty poor working person can scrape together, especially with a payment plan.

Greer's got 14 days to pay it after the judge orders him to. So I guess he's gonna have to go to another payday loan place that he hasn't been sued by if he wants to keep the case going.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Greer's got 14 days to pay it after the judge orders him to. So I guess he's gonna have to go to another payday loan place that he hasn't been sued by if he wants to keep the case going.

I thought this too, but the order makes it seem like if the judge is forced to rule on the amount, then the repayment period is discretionary.

It's not entirely clear. Either way, Shitlips does not just have 5k going spare.

 

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

Very reasonable rates based on what Hardin has stated. Under half of what he's entitled to based upon the Fitzpatrick Matrix (IANAL so I was actually a little curious how lawyers determine rates and what's considered reasonable). I also like showing that it's well under what this court has considered fair, as they awarded $400/hr rate prior. Sure I'm a layman of the law, but I find it convincing to say $300/hr is more than reasonable if you said $400/hr is. No matter what gimpy says.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Makes it harder to call him a "meanie" when he goes beyond fair in his rates.

Can the judge order him to pay more then Hardin asks for since its below the matrix thing?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

GREER IS DEFYING COURT ORDER

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

GREER IS DEFYING COURT ORDER
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GREERBROS, WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK!

He still doesn't understand how to activate the SPO and says the sanctions are baseless (a day late, as is traditional)!

 

[DavidS877]

Unified PDF and Images.

Spoiler: Images

 

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[Fenrir Ratatoskr]

GREER IS DEFYING COURT ORDER
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Fucking LMAO! Does he seriously think the Chris Chan "one red cent" defense has worked out well for anyone?

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PLEASHE SHIR, AH AM RETAAWDED SAH! AH AM FUCKING RETAWDED SAH!

 

[obsdj]

Pretty sure Greer is hemorrhaging out of both his eyes right now.

 

[Finger Pistols]

Is it fair to assume that everyone involved in this lawsuit wants to eat a bullet for one reason or another? The judge now has to read Greer explicitly defying a court order, Greer has to pay Null and Null will never see that money since you can't get blood from a rock. Hardin may be the only one laughing right now.