Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 66 13.9%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 11.8%
  • This Year

    Votes: 74 15.5%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 164 34.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 116 24.4%

  • Total voters
    476
His arrogance is incredible. This is the sort of shit someone comes out with when they're on cocaine. We know Russell doesn't use drugs, so what the actual fuck is fueling him?
I know, it's delusion and hubris but it really does stun me sometimes.

ETA: 'How I sued Joshua Moon and Kiwi Farms, a website and became accurately known as frivolous, litigious and now live in the underpass by IHOP'.
 
His arrogance is incredible. This is the sort of shit someone comes out with when they're on cocaine. We know Russell doesn't use drugs, so what the actual fuck is fueling him?
I know, it's delusion and hubris but it really does stun me sometimes.

I don't think he's actually so self-assured to be confident that his claims are consonant with reality, I think he is panicking and his porn-addled brain and arrested development from unlimited retard sympathy means that he is coping by sticking to his brilliant uno reverse move that he won't accept that the judge has already trashed.
 
6 and he will file it a day late.

10 pages because he will claim he got 5 'pages' and 'pages' have 2 SIDES.



I laughed at this error:

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Nitpicky but can this "I'm not paying you a dime" be used against him as technically contempt of court? After all the judge ordering Greer to pay a sanction implies a non-zero amount and even symbolic amounts are usually at least one dollar.
As was pointed out by a lawkiwi upthread, no. Until Greer files his objection and the judge finalizes the amount it is not yet an order.
 
Nitpicky but can this "I'm not paying you a dime" be used against him as technically contempt of court? After all the judge ordering Greer to pay a sanction implies a non-zero amount and even symbolic amounts are usually at least one dollar.
Only in the most magical of worlds. Theoretically it could. In reality it won't.
This man has spent half his professional life protecting autists from malevolent retards.
I am absolutely certain his fee-slashing policy indicates he actually enjoys smacking down lolsuits.
 
10 years of practice, and started representing Josh 5 years ago.

This man has spent half his professional life protecting autists from retards.
It gets better, if you read Melinda Scott's thread, she, too, had delusions of becoming a lawyer. She was even enrolled in a law school that had terrible ratings, very low bar pass rate (IIRC, it might have been a different metric the lawyers itt were using), basically one step up from the very basement of law schools.

Guess what school Hardin graduated from? The same one she attended. I remember the legal analysts itt were amazed at his skills given his alma mater. We really truly lucked out with Hardin, which is proof God loves us.

My dad was a school teacher. He told me once that education happens in spite of the administration and parents attempts to get in the way. I think Hardin proves him correct in that, even in graduate school.
 
It gets better, if you read Melinda Scott's thread, she, too, had delusions of becoming a lawyer. She was even enrolled in a law school that had terrible ratings, very low bar pass rate (IIRC, it might have been a different metric the lawyers itt were using), basically one step up from the very basement of law schools.

Guess what school Hardin graduated from? The same one she attended. I remember the legal analysts itt were amazed at his skills given his alma mater. We really truly lucked out with Hardin, which is proof God loves us.

My dad was a school teacher. He told me once that education happens in spite of the administration and parents attempts to get in the way. I think Hardin proves him correct in that, even in graduate school.
What lawschool you go to only really matters if you're trying to get directly into the big law pipeline, otherwise it's basacially just a credential mill. One of the sitting Supreme Court Justices went to the same shithole school Nick Crackieta went to.
 
What lawschool you go to only really matters if you're trying to get directly into the big law pipeline, otherwise it's basacially just a credential mill. One of the sitting Supreme Court Justices went to the same shithole school Nick Crackieta went to.
What do you call the student a graduated dead last at Medical School?

A doctor.
 
That's why I think it would be great if Null could just buy out the underlying IP for this case and dismiss the case against himself.
And since the IP itself is utterly worthless, it's basically "Why I Am the Dumbest Fucking Retard in the World and You Should All Laugh at Me for Free," it's basically trash.

Russhole will have to pay these sanctions if he wants to keep any rights at all for the utterly worthless works he was suing about in the first place.

Great jerb, Russhole, Kiwi Farms may end up owning ALL your IP, including your worthless "songs."
 
Is it fair to assume that everyone involved in this lawsuit wants to eat a bullet for one reason or another? The judge now has to read Greer explicitly defying a court order, Greer has to pay Null and Null will never see that money since you can't get blood from a rock. Hardin may be the only one laughing right now.
RG's dragging out this case with his deranged filings has definitely made it a very frustrating dumpster fire 🔥. I don't envy Null, Hardin, and the courthouse for having to put up with this. NGL, I wouldn't be surprised if any of the involved parties besides RG are so frustrated that they're saying to themselves, "Make it stop, please!" and willing to eat a bullet because of how maddening it's been to have this case drag out as long as it has.

I'll also note his Supplemental Declaration contains a detailed explanation of what the fees and costs were for, as well as an invoice detailing each line item with specificity, most of them for less than an hour, with no sloppy "block billing" that can result in a lowering of the award.
I think Hardin has been very deliberate with his billing details to reduce any chance of his fees being appealed or reduced as being excessive, inflated, etc.

Also, it looks like from ECF 228 he's allowed to bill up to $669 per hour per the Fitzpatrick matrix (item 5), but the court has determined $400 per hour is a reasonable fee for a copyright case (item 6). Hardin has chosen to bill Null $300 per hour (item 5). RG should consider himself lucky Hardin is not billing the full $400 allowed by the court.
 
RG should consider himself lucky Hardin is not billing the full $400 allowed by the court.
He won't, though. He will screech insanely and this is going to be so fun. His trauma lumps must be virtually exploding at this point although he won't yet realize he's UTTERLY LOST and that the only thing coming is the punishment for his shithead behavior.
 
RG's dragging out this case with his deranged filings has definitely made it a very frustrating dumpster fire 🔥. I don't envy Null, Hardin, and the courthouse for having to put up with this. NGL, I wouldn't be surprised if any of the involved parties besides RG are so frustrated that they're saying to themselves, "Make it stop, please!" and willing to eat a bullet because of how maddening it's been to have this case drag out as long as it has.


I think Hardin has been very deliberate with his billing details to reduce any chance of his fees being appealed or reduced as being excessive, inflated, etc.

Also, it looks like from ECF 228 he's allowed to bill up to $669 per hour per the Fitzpatrick matrix (item 5), but the court has determined $400 per hour is a reasonable fee for a copyright case (item 6). Hardin has chosen to bill Null $300 per hour (item 5). RG should consider himself lucky Hardin is not billing the full $400 allowed by the court.
Lol he's not going to pay a dime.

He's going to speed run vexatious litigant status trying to fight this tooth and nail, and probably put off everything else to do so, which will in turn lead to more sanctions.

Edit: he really believes that the law works like law and order, and all it takes is one profound legally framed statement to get what he wants. Despite things not going his way since birth, he has never gotten any better at handling things not going his way. It would be tragic if God inflicted all of his problems upon him, but God can only be blamed for his disability. Everything else is just Russ (and Null/Hardin) dealing with the consequences of his own actions.
 
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His arrogance is incredible. This is the sort of shit someone comes out with when they're on cocaine. We know Russell doesn't use drugs, so what the actual fuck is fueling him?
I know, it's delusion and hubris but it really does stun me sometimes.

He must be seething with (impotent) rage at reading that. He's also been forced to pay fees before, so he knows how that works. There's also another set of fees looming, so his life is pretty much unraveling now, along with his mind. Just last summer he was literally homeless and even though it seems he somewhat bounced back from that, losing $5000 is going to change that.

It's just amazing how completely unnecessary he ruined his own life with a lot of things, but especially with this.
 
As if Null ending up owning the copyrights he’s accused of contributing to the infringement of would even slow down the case.

It’d just be Null vs Null and he’d be forced to litigate both sides with Hardin as the neutral third party.
That's his 190IQ move to pocket the legal fund. He baited a retard into suing him so he could fundraise a bunch of money off of the retard's likeness that totally was never going to him. Bankrupt the retard, hijack the lawsuit by acquiring the retard's priceless IP and keeping things going, JOSHUA MOON (the corporation) keeps engaging in sanctionable conduct, directly funneling the legal fund to Joshua Moon (the actual human being) and boom, Jershy boy is $150k the richer and laughing all the way to the bank. Then, with the evil Kiwi Orchards at his command and given the order to stand down, the IP can finally be monetized to its full potential, bringing in countless thousands more, as well as all the acclaim and popstar footsies that such masterpieces would warrant
 
One of the more common ones I've seen is splitting each hour into ten units 6 minutes long and billing a minimum of 6 minutes for anything, and billing for absolutely anything. There's even software that helps you do this. (In fact, I believe Hardin is doing exactly this, minus the billing for trivialities thing, because all the time-related amounts are divisible by 6.)
6-minute increments is also standard in bankruptcy litigation.

One of the sitting Supreme Court Justices went to the same shithole school Nick Crackieta went to.
Who?

John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice of the United States, A.B. from Harvard College in 1976 and a J.D. from Harvard Law School in 1979.

Clarence Thomas, Associate Justice, attended Conception Seminary from 1967-1968 and received an A.B., cum laude, from College of the Holy Cross in 1971 and a J.D. from Yale Law School in 1974.

Samuel A. Alito, Jr., Associate Justice, received his bachelor’s degree from Princeton University and attended Yale Law School.

Sonia Sotomayor, Associate Justice, earned a B.A. in 1976 from Princeton University, and earned a J.D. from Yale Law School.

Elena Kagan, Associate Justice, received an A.B. from Princeton in 1981, an M. Phil. from Oxford in 1983, and a J.D. from Harvard Law School in 1986.

Neil M. Gorsuch, Associate Justice, received a B.A. from Columbia University, a J.D. from Harvard Law School, and a D.Phil. from Oxford University.

Brett M. Kavanaugh, Associate Justice,received a B.A. from Yale College in 1987 and a J.D. from Yale Law School in 1990.

Amy Coney Barrett, Associate Justice, received a B.A. from Rhodes College in 1994 and a J.D. from Notre Dame Law School in 1997.

Ketanji Brown Jackson, Associate Justice, received an A.B., magna cum laude, from Harvard-Radcliffe College in 1992, and a J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School in 1996.

Info from here and here and here.

Warren Burger went to St. Paul College of Law (was graduated in 1931), a predecessor of Mitchell Hamline, but Burger died 30 years ago in 1995.
 
According to his lawsuit against the brothel owner he scraped together $10k to act as seed money for a loan to buy the property the other guy owned. He may be able to pay Hardin right away once the judgement for sanctions is final.

Thanks for putting that in a fairly recent court filing, Russ.
 
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