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Should be a wild four years.

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Trump’s appeal past his first term is that he’s insanely transparent. Sincerely, I don’t think he’s actually been duplicitous and hidden his plans. Everything is open, he’ll fucking tell you what his intentions are.

He’s the only President I’ve lived under that actually tried to accomplish his campaign promises. I don’t actually like the whole Trump dynasty shit, even as a joke. I’m fine with whatever faction that’s beyond Trump actually being a thing, they seem to align with my beliefs and wants for the country.
The only thing I have left empty on my Bingo card is "2A win." Fingers crossed, I aint tired of winning.
 
Unfortunately, some topics just don't really find a civil middle ground. Like how the Russia-Ukraine conflict got split into two threads, this thread and the "Trump Enslavement Syndrome" thread in Mass Debates sort of serve as "Orange Man Good" and "Tangerine Palpatine Bad" threads.

I think there are rare occasions where people with anti-Trump sentiment or concerns about Trump's politics come in and have a reasonable conversation, but most anti-Trump posting in this thread tends to be driveby posters from the other thread reposting the latest piece of Gangster Frankenstein Radio Control from Rachael Maddow or Saturday Night Live. Consequently, almost no-one cares to hear about it in here.
I've been around long enough to know that 'I want a middle ground' really means 'I want a lefty circlejerk' to 80% of posters that do drive by posts.
 
I posted in defense of thr Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and suggested keeping it and giving Warren credit for doing a good thing. People acknowledged my point of view and seemed like they could see where I was coming from even if they disagreed. In the left wing version of this scenario there was a 20 page derail about how my minor disagreement made me the exact equivalent of a Nazi death camp gas chamber operator with a tattoo that says “I love my job.” Just because a discussion isn’t a purity spiral doesn’t make it a circle jerk.
The criticism of Trump on Gaza hasn't really gone away either. I don't think anyone was flat out in support of it on its face. Opinions ran from "confused" to "well that was retarded" to "maybe it's 4D chess?"

You've also got a fair few number of anti-elon posters who think he's secretly a retard who's going to fuck everything up.

There's plenty of disagreement here and the only thing stopping someone from going against the grain in the thread is retard stickers that have zero value.
 
You sound like an insufferable nigger
Mate he made his name patrick star. the KING of retards, the one we all watched growing up. He's essentially a proto lolcow, and he was written to be that way.
The fact that he tries to make intellectual talking points while using the face of the world's most recognizable retard should tell you all you need to know. Ignore his faggot ass and move on, let him scream into the void until he has a heart attack.
 
Hmmmm…Sorta? people used to go outside a lot more and the internet was a place to get instructions on how to fix things and chat about the paranormal you’d also have to go to the library to access a computer. To answer the question trump is what a democrat was 30 years ago today.View attachment 6976231View attachment 6976232
you want a bad day? read the comments on these videos acting like orange man ”used to be sane” without noticing the dem‘s purity spiral over the last 20 years. fucking liberals are retarded I should post the comments but you should see them for yourself.
No thanks. I'm having a headache.
 
I dont think anyone had a problem with any political position as long as the person is logical, reasonable, and consistent about their view. That indicates they can be reasoned with so they can hear your logic and change their incorrect ways or even better they take what you said and help you see it from a new perspective changing YOUR view.

However at this point there really isnt anyone on the left who is any of those 3 things. Most here don't even agree with trump on everything they just see how bad things have gotten in both parties. There was a chance for a true outsider with bernie and warren seemed legit for a hot minute but hillary killed that. The senator from fucking Hawaii changed their party affiliation it's so bad.


Had a guy at my work file an HR complaint about a liberal arguing their logical and worldview didn't make sense and it wasn't safe work with someone who's judgment you couldn't trust.
However at this point there really isnt anyone on the left who is any of those 3 things.

There was, but the Dems chased him away and Trump is fighting for him to get a cabinet position (While he and Trump still hold conflicting views on many subjects).
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Completely unserious people.
🤡 "A facist neo-nazi party is forming right now, seizing the government, and will kill me."
🐺 "This sounds like a life and death situation."
🤡 "Even if I'm not killed by death squads for being a disabled POC tranny Gaza supporter, their ineptitude will cause a complete civilization collapse. But I'm going to survive, or barring that, resist unto death."
🐺 "So are you moving to a prepper type compound? Forming a freedom fighter cell to commit acts of political violence? Whats your angle?"
🤡 "I'm going to live in a large metropolis, develop skills in esoteric art or academia instead of anything practical, and only form shallow, short term relationships of convenience."
🐺 "But you said you were going to resist?"
🤡 "Oh yes, I organized a digital protest on Reddit and gained visibility with a trending hashtag on Bluesky!"

Absolutely delusional.
 
Bro, the farms is a drama website that likes to laugh at retards and this is a containment thread to keep politspergs from shitting up the rest of the forum.

What the fuck are you talking about.
He wants to stifle healthy discussion. That's it.
The senator from fucking Hawaii changed their party affiliation it's so bad.
Do you know how dire things have to be for someone to give up a guaranteed meal ticket for the rest of their lives?
 
So are Ukrainian shills working for free at this point?

Trump stopped USAIDS.

But Trump also stopped NED today.

National Endowment for Democracy.

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I see there are people who are so dumb they should not really talk about politics at all.
For some reason they want fiery death and retribution on the Russian people to stick it to Putler.
Unless you want a full US boots on the ground invasion of Russian controlled territory. You aint getting back the area's already secure. Putler is going to have his Crimean port. Trump won on a mandate of stopping the fighting, not slaughtering Russians.
The slobber ucrani forces have not taken a single zone back from the Russians in over a year now. They are just fighting a pointless war of denial. That is just a pointless meat grinder.
That despite the tax payers money not just from the US but from the UK, Germany and other Euro country's. Progress has halted to a stalemate of chucking drones and rockets at each other.
Russia has "won" those territory's and is successfully defending them. Trump says no more fighting lets get ass's in seats and stop the killing and you have deranged blood for blood idiots like this talking.
They just don't want to face the reality that the """""""good guys""""""" lost this time.
 
If this thread is for cock-sucking well-established politicians instead of real discussion, I think it's gonna have a negative effect on the rest of the site. But I'll agree to disagree.
Stop being a crying faggot. This thread is for everyone. For people that hates trump, for people that loves trump, for people that hates niggers and jews and for people like me who dream of the day the US wakes up and nukes the fucking german vermin back to the stone age, or glass age or whatever.
The rest of faggot EU can be nuked too but primary objective is Germany.
 
That is just a pointless meat grinder.
The war is worse than that. Its a pointless meat grinder that has shown western industry, and resolve to be hollow. Made the Russia people more western-phobic when we should be friends; and has strengthened the bonds between Russia, and China. All while advancing drone warfare to the point swarms of autonomous man-killing flying bombs little bigger than a bird are not only viable, but very potent weapons of a modern war.
 
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