Crime Mother of 2 Children Who Likely Froze to Death in Van Says 'It Took 2 of My Kids to Die' to Get Help

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Tateona Williams is speaking out after two of her children likely froze to death while sleeping in a van at a Detroit parking garage.

According to the Detroit Police Department, the incident occurred on Monday, Feb. 10 on the ninth floor of the Hollywood Casino parking garage, where the family was seeking shelter inside the van. At the time, there were five children and two adults in the vehicle.

Williams, 29, told PEOPLE in an exclusive interview that the deceased are her children Darnell Currie Jr., 9, and Amillah Currie, 2. The other adult in the van was Williams' mother, Yvette Goodman, 48. Four of the children were Williams' and the fifth was Goodman's. Williams spoke with PEOPLE alongside Detroit Board of Police Commissioner Tamara Liberty Smith, who is also the director of Detroit Power Detroit Community Outreach, a transitional housing service Williams was referred to on Monday evening.

“The mother realized that her 9-year-old son wasn’t breathing,” said interim Detroit Police Chief Todd Bettison at a press conference on Tuesday, Feb. 11. “Previous to that, she had already called a friend, another close relative, to help because with the vehicle not running."

Bettison said the mother realized that the 9-year-old was not breathing. The friend, who had already arrived, took the boy in their car and headed to the hospital.

“While en route to the children’s hospital, as they checked on the other children that were in the van…they realized at some point that the 2-year-old wasn’t breathing,” added Bettison, who said that once the friend returned, the entire family got into the car and rushed off to the hospital.

According to Bettison, authorities were later notified by the hospital that the two children had died.

Williams told PEOPLE she woke up and saw "stuff coming out" of Darnell's mouth and rushed him to the hospital. "They really couldn't do much because I guess it was too late," she said, adding that she did not notice something was wrong with Amillah until her mother rushed into the hospital with the child.

“We do know that on that day and time the temperatures were below 32 degrees,” Bettison said. “Of course ultimately the medical examiner will determine the cause of death, but just on the surface right now it appears it was exposure to hypothermia.“

Bettison went on to note that the investigation is ongoing and that police have spoken with the children’s mother and grandchildren. He went on to note that the other three surviving children were with other relatives and nobody was currently being detained.

Authorities believe that the family had lived in the van for two to three months prior to the tragedy and chose the parking garage at the Hollywood Casino because it was free and provided safety and access to the casino’s restroom.

Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan, who was also at the Feb. 11 news conference, said that "the heartbreaking part of this is that there were family shelter beds available just a few miles away...[It] brings home the point that having services available doesn’t mean very much if the residents who need them don’t know how to access them.”

Based on preliminary information given to him, Duggan said the family had contacted the city’s homeless response team multiple times, most recently on Nov. 25, 2024.

On Nov. 25, Duggan said the family told the response team they had been living with another family and wouldn’t be able to continue to stay with them, so they needed to find a new place to go.

“In the course of that conversation there was no resolution reached on where they would go,” said Duggan. “And one of the things when you call our homeless services folks is that if it’s an emergency situation, we send out one of these outreach workers….For whatever reason, this wasn’t deemed an emergency that caused an outreach worker to visit the family.”

He added that, based on what authorities could determine at the time, “the family never called back again for service," nor did any member of the response team reach out to the family.

In her interview with PEOPLE, Williams said she "kept calling" homeless services after Nov. 25.

"I kept calling. I called out of state, cities, different states. I asked Detroit for help," Williams said. "And they still would say, when I called, they didn't have no beds. But it took two [of] my kids to die... for them to want to help."

When Williams called Detroit's Homeless Services on Nov. 25, they told her no family rooms were available, but they would let her know when one did. They never did, she told PEOPLE.

Smith explained to PEOPLE that Williams and her family had a "unique" situation because shelters would have to make "special accommodations" for the family. Smith said Williams and her family are staying at Detroit Power Detroit Community Outreach, an independently-owned shelter.

In his news conference, the mayor called on Deputy Mayor Melia Howard and Housing and Revitalization Department director Julie Schneider to furnish a review about this case within two weeks.
 
Yeah lol niggers and blah, but still she had the presence of mind to actually try to tell the homelessness bureaucracy that her spawn were going to fucking die in a van in a Detroit winter (and we all know how fucking metal a Detroit winter gets) and was essentially handed a number and told to come back in 8 months. On my local Craigslist rants boards people are constantly wondering where the $25 gorillion that Guv Jewscum spent on homeless solutions went, well something like this, bureaucratic agencies filled by the younger nepobabies of local pols who aren't there to do any actual fucking work, just to drink shitty coffee and play Angry Birds on their phones all fucking day for a fat salary. A real literal homeless person calls in? Take a number, nigger bitch. Now where was I in my game?
I can completely believe that she asked a shelter for help, and clerk just threw a waitlist form at her, and didn't even bother to tell her about other shelters in the area. I can also believe that she may have gone to other NGO offices, and nobody was there during normal business hours. Most poor people services don't GAF.
 
She’s on drugs. She’s a shrunken, dead eyed zombie and can’t string a coherent sentence together be it from Black Excellence or crack.

My guess is that she’s a drug addicted hooker and refused to go to a shelter because of the expectation that her favorite pastimes would be left at the door. I’m sure all her children have seen way too much in their time.

I wouldn’t have let that woman in my house even IF it was freezing outside because you can just tell that she’d refuse to ever leave and absolutely wreck your life. I completely understand why her relatives only took the children and not her.
 
but the second attitude leads directly to the first
Yeah I agree. But where there’s kids involved I feel something should be done. The question is what? And no it’s not just the homeless where kids are raised with substance abuse. I knew kids growing up where a parent was an alkie and I know families now where there’s substance abuse and everyone still holds down a job but man, the kids are getting messed up.
What do you do to help? For adults I feel there are services and if they don’t engage there’s a point you lock people up - we can’t have drug zombies. But for families, how do you try to get it fixed? You can’t just take the kids, there’s too many. An alcoholic mother who does love you is better than most foster care.
genuinely, how do kids escape this? In my own family generations back, one family took in several kids who had been neglected, or had parents who had died in the war, and they turned out ok. But society isn’t like that any more. How can we help reduce the impacts on children? Are there any programs that work? We used to have sure start but most of that’s been defunded
For the family I know who are messing up their kids - the authorities are aware, and dont care because they’re nice and middle class. We just try to have an open house for the kids ‘if they’re passing by’ I.e if their father is drunk and their mother is on a crazy rant again, they know they can stop by us and get some food or a quiet place to do homework . I dunno, what more can be done? There’s no community any more. This woman’s community should have straightened her out and taken the kids in.
 
One sleeping adult produces about 250 BTUs.

Assuming an average age of the children is 6 and using an average height and weight, we can calculate the children had an average surface area of .8 m2 vs the adults' 1.8, so we can assume the kids were putting out about 110 BTU each. That's 1050. Let's convert that to watts for ease of calculation: 300 watts, give or take.

Based on an estimated surface area of 20 square meters and an estimated U value of 2, the heat loss of a van would be about 55 watts per degree difference in Celsius between the inside and outside. It's 55 because you add about 30% extra because of all the windows.

So now we need to find the inside temperature at which the heat loss equals the body heat output and that should be the temperature the van was at. That temperature is 5.5C, or 42F, assuming an outside temperature of 0C.

At these temperatures, the only way hypothermia is feasible is if the child was wet and didn't have a blanket. 42 is unpleasant, but far from deadly as long as you take even the most basic precautions.
I feel like you're discounting the insulating influence of ice on the windows.

Picture of the van:


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Interestingly, the U value of ice is almost the same as glass.

The ice on the body might have made a difference, but it's really hard to say. Cars are made of aluminum on the outside (very high U value) but plastic on the inside (very low U value). 2 was really just a ballpark guess that's likely close enough for napkin math. An iced over aluminum body is still going to transfer a lot of heat because now we're dealing with conduction rather than convection, and metal is a great thermal conductor.
 
Parking garages are usually at least a couple degrees above ambient, catching ventilation exhausts from the adjacent buildings and blocking wind. A person in a halfway decent coat wouldn't freeze to death in a garage in that weather, much less a person inside a vehicle with a bunch of other people warming the interior. Especially a person their mother calls "fatty", sounds like the kid had some innate insulation of his own.

In any event I expect the coroner's report is going to have the mother in jail shortly. Given that the city will look bad if the narrative remains that they heartlessly left children to freeze blocks from a homeless shelter, you can bet they aren't going to Floyd the autopsies this time. The way the mayor was emphasizing that they had more investigating to do kinda gives me the impression that he was not on board with the hypothermia.
 
and there's a lot of people here also saying that addicts are scum and you have to stay away from them

the second attitude is totally comprehensible and rational under anarchotyranny. solid citizens are at too much risk interacting with junkies because the law treats us all the same, except it treats junkies better and we have so much more to lose.

but the second attitude leads directly to the first. if you raise your kids totally protected from junkie shens - which of course you do, that's the right thing to do, in our society junkies are insanely dangerous - a very large percentage of the kids raised that way grow up into adults who know nothing about addiction and when confronted with this fact pattern do not immediately see what is going on. They see poverty and failure of social services.

The problem is that Druggies refuse to see that they have a problem and will not accept any solution that takes them away from the drugs. That leaves only radical solutions that our society will not take because we're a bunch of bleeding hearts who want to think that we're above that sort of thing.

I'm all for exposing middle class kids to the reality of drug use. Making watching 100 hours of police bodycam footage of drug addicts mandatory in school. Scare those little fuckers straight.
 
I'm all for exposing middle class kids to the reality of drug use. Making watching 100 hours of police bodycam footage of drug addicts mandatory in school. Scare those little fuckers straight.
"That'll never happen to me. Those people are stupid."- every Middle Schooler in the US. DARE has existed for forty years, already.
 
still she had the presence of mind to actually try to tell the homelessness bureaucracy that her spawn were going to fucking die in a van in a Detroit winter (and we all know how fucking metal a Detroit winter gets) and was essentially handed a number
On super cold nights like Detroit has had recently, everyone checks to make sure the homeless are inside. There are volunteers sweeping the streets prepared to direct people into shelters in the downtown. Literally, she probably could've gone into the casino and said, "My kids and I don't have anywhere to stay tonight," and something would've been arranged even if it was just a dude paying out of pocket for a room.

It sounds like she was offered unglamorous or inconvenient options and refused them.

Beyond that, schools want kids in school and, furthermore, they want the children to be ready to learn, so they have enormous supports for homelessness. This is especially true in a place like Detroit where such instability is common. Stuff like this makes me pissed; two children died because all of the adults in their lives were horrible, selfish people.
 
The mom is sketch as fuck.
Get the fuck out of here.
Is that seriously a *CHIRP* at 3:25?
Right after she says "my kids didn't even get whooped" it chirps at her, as if to say liar liar pants on fire.

Kids didn't freeze, she's going to jail.
Even though the dad sounded pretty absent, he was at least crying real tears, unlike the mother. Does he have the 3rd one now? The news said they had 3 kids together.
R.I.P. kids. You deserved better.
 
He says the last time he held his children was a month or two ago, and that they typically Facetime. Moments he says he will miss.

I asked him what he would like to see following the police investigation.

"It don't even matter to me. Can't get them back, so it's whatever," he said.
Devastating to see the black man's emotional survival mechanisms laid bare. It's primitive and clunky, but seemingly works. Whatever gets you through the work day my man.
 
Hold up!
I took a peek at Lipstick Ally to see what the ladies over there were saying about this incident. Mostly a bunch of blaming the system and the father. They really really hate the father over there. The way he's wearing 2 coats during that interview, the fact he has a gym membership, having all this stuff for himself while his kids "froze". He apparently has/had his own gofundme for some reason too.
But that's not the most important thing they found. They posted pictures of him and what they are calling his whale.
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So what's the verdict? Was he a deadbeat dad who couldn't be bothered to see his kids? Or was he just trying to keep them from getting eaten by his sugar mama?
 
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