Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Ghostse said:
Now now, remember. Any Eurofag on here is posting on a place riddled with freespeech. Europroles are risking being arrested and imprisoned for committing thoughtcrime (and not being Muslim/African enough) if its discovered they know this place exists, let alone have an account and post.
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Free speech on a American website? Stop the fucking presses. The shock from the Euros never fails to amuse.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
I was more refering to the time where US navy ran away from the red sea due to Houthis and their commanders had a meltdown on twitter coping and spamming NAFO memes. The fact that it happened at all is humiliating. That said, thank you for the Vietnam explanation. It was very enlightening, and I enjoyed it.
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Late, but when did that happen? Truman left because of the ceasefire.

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These niggas is geekin
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He's doing the typical German left item of bitching about budgeting rules preventing deficit spending. Election is around the corner so this is the last grand gesture he will get.

I have been looking into Ratcliffe's opinions on Ukraine and found this thought piece penned by him and Kellogg: L | A
It's from 2022. They call for a negotiated settlement with a back drop of additional arms for Ukraine through that process. Crucially, it's emphasized through the paper that a clear end state should be established. The paper goes so far as establishing red lines which would necessitate NATO military involvement.

I read this as a likely direction the Trump administration is taking. The specifics here matter a lot though, so not really any more light on that front.
 
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You people are melting down far too early. As I said already it will be interesting to see what concessions Russia will offer. Presumably no reasonable peace deal gives one party everything they want in this case. Just a casual guess Russia will try to preserve their land gains as a priority over severing Ukraine's western ties.
 
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Fatsuit Shinji said:
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As of December 2024 the U.S. Army have put in orders for more new Bradleys to replace those sent to Ukraine.
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Was that new hulls or upgrades to existing ones? (its really fucking hard to tell most times because only the milautist reporters will clarify the difference) I
recall there was talk to upgrade the last of the "desert storm" spec bradleys to the latest.
 
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Russians video another execution of a Ukrainian prisoner:
"This is what happens to invaders of our sacred land"
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Another day, another war-crime. At least these guys will be dead in a couple months, hunted down by drones and mossad-trained pissed off Ukrainians.
 
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Abowaffen said:
Mr. End Wokeness is acompanying the SecDef for negotiations, apparently.
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5d chess or whatever.
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A man of Polish heritage who shills for putin. Sad! Even Hegseth's speech giving away all leverage went too far and he partly retracted words which seemed to bind POTUS. Hegseth couldn't even answer one question properly. Embarrassing. Yet...

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Trump surrendering his leverage before talks even start. Trump mouths worthless Russian propaganda. Every free country in the region has joined NATO, altho the value of that is less and less clear. I hope at least Trump won't try and force Ukraine out of Kursk in return for nothing but not carrying out some bullying threat. Suggests Russia should rejoin G7 (Newsweek) which implies lifting sanctions. Basically, this is looking like a reward for blundered, naked aggression born out of a strange MAGA worship of Russia. Hopefully this reading is completely wrong, but that would involve a cunning misdirection, something Putin can do, but Trump isn't remotely capable of doing. What I hear myself is that Ukrainians consider that a betrayal of them by the US is afoot. Again, hopefully wrong.

Zelensky imposed sanctions on opposition leader Poroshenko effectively opening the election season. Poroshenko had said he opposed elections given a mix of occupation in the east and south plus a population scattered. Poroshenko has also devoted his fortune to funding the fight, buying drones and supplies with his own money. Zelensky's poll rating is poor enough with Zaluzhyni (fmr Army boss now UK ambassador) on 27% and Zelensky on 16%.

"Elections in Ukraine would undermine unity, "Poroshenko said.

"Who will win these elections? Poroshenko? Zelensky? I doubt it. One person will win them — Putin."
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"'Zaluzhnyi did not let the guys die,' is the thesis that Ukrainians use when talking about Zaluzhnyi," Oleksii Antypovych, Ukrainian sociologist and the head of the Rating Group, told the Kyiv Independent.
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Russian born (Vladimir) Syrskyi is not so well perceived.
 
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No. 7 cat said:
Zelensky imposed sanctions on opposition leader Poroshenko effectively opening the election season. Poroshenko had said he opposed elections given a mix of occupation in the east and south plus a population scattered. Poroshenko has also devoted his fortune to funding the fight, buying drones and supplies with his own money. Zelensky's poll rating is poor enough with Zaluzhyni (fmr Army boss now UK ambassador) on 27% and Zelensky on 16%.
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Friendly reminder that Zelensky wanted Azov and other nationalist militias in the Donbas to disarm back in October 2019 due to his commitment to an agreement he signed with Russia, France and Germany:
Ukraine, Russia and the separatists signed an accord earlier this month to pull back heavy weaponry and to hold an election in the area at a later date. The pullback has not occurred because of shelling from both sides and threats from Ukrainian hard-liners to hamper the disengagement.
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What does victory look like to you? Honest question. This is real world shit, not internet points. It is going to be give and take for peace. There will be cope and sneed on every side, but in the end the bloodshed will stop and life will resume. People will be able to rebuild, have families, and if all goes well, never fight eachother again.
 
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Pocket Dragoon said:
Russians video another execution of a Ukrainian prisoner:
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Another day, another war-crime. At least these guys will be dead in a couple months, hunted down by drones and mossad-trained pissed off Ukrainians.
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Just two more weeks before Ukraine wins
 
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