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People have been predicting (really, hoping for) the collapse of anime for a couple of decades. It hasn't happened, nor will it happen. Most of that talk just comes from petty leftists bitter at Japan for one reason or another, or from people who unwittingly internalized that bitterness.
the only possible way for Anime to collapse is a) liberals completely infest it with their weird shit like the mpreg anime and there's nothing good left and b)liberals leave american shows and cartoons the fuck alone so they get good again.
 
the only possible way for Anime to collapse is a) liberals completely infest it with their weird shit like the mpreg anime and there's nothing good left and b)liberals leave american shows and cartoons the fuck alone so they get good again.

Or somehow the West/China/insert other country here manages to collapse Japan's economy so hard that it turns into a Failed State worse than Venezuela.
 
So we have some answers about what's happening with Aquarion: https://aq-moe.com/production/vol5/
Apparently they did no storyboards and instead shot live-action footage for the animators to refer to. That's really interesting, and it makes a lot of what the show's doing make sense: the lack of action is similar to what you'd see in a toku (though the writing is definitely weaker; Boonboomger was more engaging than this), the stock footage is toned-down to be more like classic toku, and all the character scenes are there because it's like what a live action Asian drama would do! This is actually brilliant; it's the exact sort of experimentation I love to see (combined with the cartoonish style). I'm glad to see Satelight still has it in themselves to make something really weird and original. I just pray, pray that the show doesn't give up in the end like Bravern did.
The recent juxtopositional treatment of one of the most legendary mangas ever is a perfect exemplar of that. Do you think that would have even been possible for a franchise like Berserk back in the 1990s?
I'd also like to mention Grendizer U feeling almost mocking of the source material at times (killing Casado, the random Jerry Springer episode they aired, and repeating Valvrave's ending are the big offenders). I was hoping Grendizer U would be a Dendoh FINAL, but it ended up being a soft remake of Dendoh (they even repeat many of the plot points) with Okouchi's hack writing. If this was the 90s it would have been a massive action-packed OVA like Getter Robo Armageddon.
And detailed painting-like backgrounds are a thing of the past or extremely expensive and relagated to only movies and the highest quality seasonal affairs.
For some reason nuanime backgrounds feel like claymation.
. Did you think people meant "the anime industry" would somehow magically collapse and anime wouldn't exist anymore? No, the degradation of artistic quality over years is what people don't like...
I'm not really so much talking about artistic quality. Budget doesn't mean a show is bad; some of the most influential anime ever were made on low budgets. I'm talking about lacking the skill to see a premise through to its end and ensure that new anime are solid pieces of work people can return to for years afterward. Random 80s shows like Dorvack are still beloved today; will you be able to say the same about My Hero Academia or Oshi No Ko or whatever FOTM in 40 years?
Also, yes, I was predicting a total collapse of anime. Producing so, so many shows per season is indicative of a bubble, and bubbles always pop. When this bubble pops, nobody will care enough to make it strong again, and all that will be left of anime are popular family shows like Doraemon and Sazae-san (which may go the way of the dodo as well thanks to the Fuji TV sexual harassment coverup scandal), hentai/extreme ecchi, a handful of shonen adaptations, and maybe a random moeblob/romance show. I say this because a surprising number of people in the weebsphere don't actually watch anime as much as you'd expect; they instead watch Vtubers, play gacha, and read hentai manga, so wouldn't it stand to reason that there will be no reason for anime to exist in its current capacity when the current bubble pops and that the resources will shift to gacha games and Vtuber kayfabe?
 
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I'm looking for a manga where the characters watch the past through VHS tapes in a mysterious building.
Goodbye, Eri ?

Also I've been catchin' up on some stuff:
- read Akira for the first time, rewatched the movie in 4K after years
- Sakamoto Days 17 and Gokurakugai 2
 
Also I've been catchin' up on some stuff:
- read Akira for the first time, rewatched the movie in 4K after years

Which one did you prefer ? I am not a big fan myself but would say the manga is better, the movie cuts out a good chuck of the source material.
 
That's because anime's global popularity has resulted in just as many (or probably more) women getting into anime than men due to the stereotype of cutesiness. While I'm not opposed to anime being female wish-fulfillment -- lots of great anime like Gundam Wing and Chouja Raideen are female wish fulfillment -- I WILL use this as a jumping-off point to talk about how anime's globalization is shoving anime into an even smaller box of nonstop moe/romance, shonen adaptations, fanservice, and violence, and how this will kill anime. Stuff like Chainsaw Man and Dandadan are so popular among normies because they're many of the stereotypes of anime rolled into one, and saying that good/popular anime must subscribe to these degenerate and limiting standards will do nothing but hurt it in the long run. People get mad at this, but the shonen format isn't conducive to thoughtful, well-structured writing and worldbuilding, and most shonen manga that become classics do so through constant exposure, nostalgia, and marketing rather than quality. Anime feels so disposable and cheap nowadays because of this, and this is why we're getting so many formulaic shows per season. Combine this with global audiences heavily leaning towards all anime formats meant for temporary thrills (porn, shocking gore, and poorly-outlined shonen) rather than longlasting enjoyment to the extent that Chainsaw Man is mainly kept afloat by Westerners, and you're in for an anime bubble burst when normies smarten up and realize the nonsense of their preferred anime genres. Normies are already realizing this, which is why IRL weebs tend to lean more heavily towards gacha and Vtubers than actual anime, so in about 15 years the anime industry will probably be very small and do nothing but shonen adaptations and a rare romance OVA (bye-bye sci-fi :() while stories that would have become anime are turned into gacha games and Vtuber kayfabe.

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Did you see the original series?
If you didn't I would still watch the original and even if you don't want to I would still recommend watching the early parts of FMA before the switch as they rush through things in the beginning of brotherhood.
Does FMA go over a different story? I thought FMAB was just a remake, lol
 
Does FMA go over a different story? I thought FMAB was just a remake, lol
No, Brotherhood follows the manga while FMA deviates around episode 20-28 and becomes it's own story.
The reason why it has such a heated discussion is because they are basically entirely different stories.
I prefer the manga/brotherhood overall as I kind of stop enjoying FMA 2003 when they return to Lior and once that arc is done I kind of just hate the final part. Everyone has their own opinion so I would watch both and make up your mind yourself.
 
No, Brotherhood follows the manga while FMA deviates around episode 20-28 and becomes it's own story.
The reason why it has such a heated discussion is because they are basically entirely different stories.
I prefer the manga/brotherhood overall as I kind of stop enjoying FMA 2003 when they return to Lior and once that arc is done I kind of just hate the final part. Everyone has their own opinion so I would watch both and make up your mind yourself.
thanks, ill probably start with fma then
 
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thanks, ill probably start with fma then
I think that would be the best as you would experience it as how myself and others did.
Watch 2003 FMA and then the film Conqueror of Shamballa to have the full story for that part.
Then if you liked FMA watch Brotherhood.
The dub is also very well loved for FMA and Brotherhood in case you care.
 
farms, is it worth starting FMAB?
It's a solid series and either version is worth watching. 03 has an original ending since the manga was still running at the time, and Arakawa approved of the studio's interpretation of the homunculi and villains. Brotherhood is faithful to the manga. I prefer the atmosphere and consequences of 03.
 
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