Myself, I'm under no illusion Ukraine will get those territories back, not without an unpopular mass conscription and a genuine Lend Lease program.
Sending millions more to die because one guy sounds like a faggot is not a good reason not to make peace. My guy, eastern Europe as a whole is now fucked on a genetic scale on the level of one child policy China due to this war. Russia is not trying again. Their young men are fucking dead. Same with Ukraine. Once it stops it will not restart in Putin's lifetime; he will be dead and buried due to the generational crashout. Right now is the perfect time for peace.
New hulls as replacements. The confusion is most understandable as U.S. Army is also having upgrades done to current existing Bradleys.
It's not just that as an equally large part of it is the "fuck Obama and fuck Biden" mindset. As it is their fault for starting this particular mess and grafting off of it.
I am not interested in getting in an Internet slap-fight; God knows I've been in enough for one lifetime. But I have no idea what the hell you're talking about here. I have been in this thread for two years (happy anniversary!) and the ones before, and I have not seen MAGA cultism. Most discussions of Trump have been reasonably calibrated. Basically, he's known to be a wild card, there's concern he might abandon Ukraine, but there's also reasons to believe he might be tougher than Biden and his weak knees.
Any win by anyone at this point will be entirely not have been worth it, the k/d alone has already determined this.
you haven't been in this thread very much tourist. Russian troops were extremely diverse in many ways, some of which being:
Damn. How much was the Telegraph getting from USAID?
Well, time to update the chart.
This is the danger of the "fuck the other guy" mindset.
As I've said, I'm going to furious if Russia gets rewarded for invading yet another country.
That ending quote is 100% accurate. Even if nothing changes, Putin leverages the chaos to his advantage.
This is probably the most likely outcome.
" to claim victory with, and arguably one could make the argument Russian can exploit the newly captured regions for resources, etc.This is what's retarded when ziggers act like Zelensky is the anti-Russian stooge, when he was arguably the peacenik candidate suppressing Ukraine's most anti-Russian elements.
Bruh we are like 1 week away from Year 3 of the Three-Day Special Military Operation.
Happy almost anniversary zisters!
Ree. I've been watching. All those groups you listed suggests a population collapse. You've proven my point. Where are the young men? Ill tell you, a lot are fucking dead.
Highly likely. Russia gets the smugThis is probably the most likely outcome.
Russians are dumb and arrogant, but they aren't stupid. Moscow has to know Ukraine has basically now become solidified as cultural enemies, a foe that is unlikely to forgive and forget. Flipping Kiev back to pro-Russian is exponentially less plausible now that it was back before 2022, much less before 2014.
Keeping some land gives Russia the cope condition of "well technically you didn't keep us out of your entire country
"we won something" trophy while Ukraine is solidified completely against ever joining Russia again, i.e. independence forever and western aligned.
Like I said before, it seems like a lot of Americans don't even bother to learn WTF is actually going on and have just surface level takes like this, but I would expect president to know better, regardless of how busy he might be.
You do realize that this is an objectively bad attempt at a dig on Ukraine, right? "Two weeks" is entirely a meme mocking Putin's failed blyatzkrieg that ended up in WWI-style stalemate, you can't just turn it the other way around because Ukraine never made claims of imminent victory and its military didn't have reputation to squander the way Russia did during these events.
Now that you mentioned it... Since Putin is obsessed with numbers, you could probably get a good deal if you offer him a treaty at the day of invasion, he wouldn't want to miss the opportunity to end it on the same day it started. He would probably sign anything at that point
@World in Scarlet has gotten a full blown case of TDS from his local Eurofag media. If you don't seethe about Trump 24x7 or if you doubt at all negative statements made about Trump, you are a Trump cultist. The fact there is push back on Orange Man Bad means this an echochamber, certainly not that people are fucking tired of 9 years of the same MSNPC lie-driven narrative on repeat constantly.
I think a realistic end goal is the Donbros and Crimea are made "special administrative regions" that are part of Ukraine but Russia gets some sort of special economic consideration; Russian free trade zones or portions of pipeline tolls going directly to the local governments, something like that. Russia getting a long-term lease on the soviet facilities in Crimea to allow them more time to complete moving the BSF to Novorossiysk. Probably an agreement on allowing a reconstitution of the BSF with modern ships and without fuckery from Turkey.
Agreed. Zelensky wasn't perfect and made the initial days worse, but he stuck it out and has been working to unfuck Ukraine's military since.
The US is really, REALLY not sending our best to this thing.
Retardation and Vatnikism go hand in hand.
Anniversary? No no, my friend. Three days after the anniversary.Now that you mentioned it... Since Putin is obsessed with numbers, you could probably get a good deal if you offer him a treaty at the day of invasion, he wouldn't want to miss the opportunity to end it on the same day it started. He would probably sign anything at that point
You tard they haven't been fighting. it's why it was a huge deal the Muscovite reserves that got surprised during the kursk invasion were recorded. It was actual young Russian men that fit the bill. They were men who were not going to see the front lines. Instead men who aren't a factor in major Russian development are sacrificed, the minorities that make up healthy majorities of Russia's more obscure areas that don't have access to the capital of the more developed areas, the opportunities your average Muscovite will get, and have little opportunity to advance in life. These are people that won't be missed by the majority of Russia, and the ones that would care about their loss lack the ability to spread their stories.
I feel pretty similar (as may have been noticed).
Absolutely, chill the fuck out for a minute and wait and see. It's not really like anyone can do anything about it anyway. Foreign policy and occasionally sticking his foot in his mouth are two topics I am more than willing to shit on Trump over but nothing has actually happened yet. I think there is a sizeable group which has fallen for all of the Steele dossier "Trump is an agent of Putin" shit and unironically believes it, ergo Trump doing things that Trump always does starts sounding alarm bells in their head. I get being concerned but holy shit, some people are having a full on fucking meltdown about it. Ripped straight from the media [or conversations with some of my shitlib boomer relatives] "did you hear what Trump SAID this week?" Trump says a lot of things and enjoys using hyperbole, when he's trying to negotiate with someone he talks about them like they cleaned his hotel room, sucked his dick and left a mint on his pillow. That's just how he fucking operates. How have we had ten years of political Trump [more if you consider Trump's involvement with the Tea Party and what-not] and people still refuse to get him?
