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Should be a wild four years.

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IAmNotAlpharius said:
We should tell European nations we’ll pull out of nato if they don’t mass deport their free loaders.
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I want to believe that the subtext of the Trump administration saying that Ukraine won't join NATO after the peace deal is that the US leaves NATO and forms a new alliance with Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Poland, Ukraine, Finland, the Baltic states, and whoever else is sufficiently based and wants to kill commies.

With that list you have Russia and China bracketed and at that point why would you need Europe?
 
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Necrosan said:
Well, that didn't last long...
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lol at the mass amount of clapping to his whining versus JD Vance's statements. like a fucking German has the right to tell anyone that Europe is fighting for freedom and that every opinion has a voice. their desire to ban political parties and censor everyday citizens shows the nazi blood never left their veins

a perfect clip to mentally replace "democracy" with "bureaucracy"
 
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Internet Wizard said:
Because race hatred is actually sort of bad, hot take ik
Migration isn't a problem in Europe unless you spend all day on Twitter where they insist it's what's making everything else wrong. Even of AfD, Reform et. al sweep in elections nothing will really be done because it's always just a scapegoat to blame everything else on (see Enoch Powell)
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Yeah and Trump won't REALLY deport those illegals, it's impossible and just a gift, stop trying to fight for what you believe!
 
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I wrapped up Vance's speech.

Not that anyone cares, but here is my analysis and impression of the speech. The United States is telling Europe:
  • Europe will be asked to increase their defense and security spending in the coming years, and that this can be done with assistance by the US, but the US has concerns about it.
  • The current administration is deeply concerned about European countries beefing up their military and security budgets when they concurrently pursue Soviet-style policies censoring speech and outright cancelling elections because they don't like the results. This could result in serious civil conflict in Europe and the US does not want that.
  • The aforementioned issue is made even worse by mass migration into EU countries which has a troubling pattern of known security threats not being stopped, e.g. the recent Munich attack. The US does not want to give security assistance to countries that persecute their own people and basically reward terrorists.
  • There is an unspoken threat, in between the lines, that the US will not support certain EU countries militarily or in terms of security if they are going to use US resources - equipment, training, intelligence, and so on - to suppress their own citizens and not cooperate with counter-terrorism efforts.
 
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