What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[teriyakiburns]

My take is that they knew and didn't care because nothing like that had happened before; "Oh you're going to take out the towers? Like that bombing attempt in the 80's? Okay, Jan." sort of thing.

The fact that the WTC was targeted multiple times by the same people is a count against a lot of the conspiracy arguments. Al qaeda (and other affiliated groups) had a stated intent to bomb the WTC since the 80s as part of a wider campaign of pan-arab "resistance", viewing it as a symbol of American economic and military hegemony. The bombing in 93 did almost bring one of the towers down, except the bombers parked their van a bit too far away from the core foundations. Mediation work and improved security prevented another similar attack and gave everyone a false sense of security about it all, so the attacked switched to a different approach. The rest is history. Really, really shitty history.

Factions within the US government knew that another attack was due at some point, but they expected a more conventional attempt. They intended to use any future attack as justification for assembling a security state as part of a long term scheme to implement total technocratic control of the world, so they had the PATRIOT act on standby in order to roll it out whenever an attack happened. They knew from experience and the openly stated goals of multiple pan-arab nationalist groups that they wouldn't have to wait too long, with the only surprise being just how far al qaeda would actually go. 9/11 gave them the perfect backdrop to do whatever they wanted.

 

[AnOminous]

The fact that the WTC was targeted multiple times by the same people is a count against a lot of the conspiracy arguments. Al qaeda (and other affiliated groups) had a stated intent to bomb the WTC since the 80s as part of a wider campaign of pan-arab "resistance", viewing it as a symbol of American economic and military hegemony.

Actually I think it strengthens the conspiracy theories. Not the "Jews did 9/11" theories, but the "they knew it was coming and deliberately let it happen" theories, because it's hard to imagine an explanation that doesn't involve either flabbergasting incompetence or malice for not taking seriously a number of legitimate warnings that the same people who had done it before were determined to do it again.

As soon as it happened I knew who had done it, or at least what general group. Not just a lucky guess, I'd followed Omar Abdel-Rahman's case for the 1993 bombing pretty closely on cryptome.

 

[Bonesjones]

The bombing in 93 did almost bring one of the towers down, except the bombers parked their van a bit too far away from the core foundations.

The government had a plant involved in the bombing with a clear ability to swap the explosives with innert substances at the last moment, they chose to let the bombing happen. Every WTC bombing is an inside job.

 

[Finnegan the Supershark]

The fact that the WTC was targeted multiple times by the same people is a count against a lot of the conspiracy arguments. Al qaeda (and other affiliated groups) had a stated intent to bomb the WTC since the 80s as part of a wider campaign of pan-arab "resistance", viewing it as a symbol of American economic and military hegemony. The bombing in 93 did almost bring one of the towers down, except the bombers parked their van a bit too far away from the core foundations. Mediation work and improved security prevented another similar attack and gave everyone a false sense of security about it all, so the attacked switched to a different approach. The rest is history. Really, really shitty history.

Factions within the US government knew that another attack was due at some point, but they expected a more conventional attempt. They intended to use any future attack as justification for assembling a security state as part of a long term scheme to implement total technocratic control of the world, so they had the PATRIOT act on standby in order to roll it out whenever an attack happened. They knew from experience and the openly stated goals of multiple pan-arab nationalist groups that they wouldn't have to wait too long, with the only surprise being just how far al qaeda would actually go. 9/11 gave them the perfect backdrop to do whatever they wanted.

A long time ago, it was accepted that the Sun revolved around the Earth. People thought it was true because it seemed consistent with their subjective experience and worldview. But when people started making observations and gathering evidence, the geocentric model fell apart. They realized that the subjective plausibility of their preconceived conclusion was just self-deception. You can't learn about the world simply by thinking about what makes sense to you; you actually have to observe it.

You have a preconceived conclusion that sounds perfectly plausible to you. The nature of the observations and physical evidence makes absolutely no difference.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

The competency crisis is real and much, much worse than anyone could imagine.

 

[NoReturn]

The competency crisis is real and much, much worse than anyone could imagine.

No, we can imagine, it's just frightening to think about for too long.

Hey let's all watch Empire of Dust again!

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5gdfm4

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Neville Chamberlain was a hero and done dirty by the NWO who wanted Britain and Germany to fight vs making an alliance that would have ruled the world.

 

[Ponzo]

1. Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated on behalf of the jews so the UK could take Palestine from the Ottomans amidst the chaos of WWI and gift it to the Rothchilds (Balfour Declaration)
2. Hitler was not who he portrayed himself to be. Nobody who is serious about fighting marxism / communism would be fine with Göbbels calling Lenin the "second greatest man after Hitler" and still keeping him in his inner circle. Nobody who is serious about fighting marxism / communism would assassinate the catholic austrofascist chancellor Dollfuß who just put down an attempted socialist coup and was ruling over a peaceful ethno-nationalist country that rejected all forms of socialism.
3. Israel killed JFK so they could keep expanding their influence over the US and make them their bitch (succeeded)
4. Israel was responsible for 9/11 so their puppets in the US government would start a war on Terror and use it as an excuse to take out leaders in the middle east that were a threat to Israel (Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad) and threaten surrounding nations into compliance.
5. The US is fully controlled by Israel and the Zog and no amount of voting will change that

 

[Honest Fan Soni-chan]

"9/11 was allowed to happen" and "an ethnic network of jews supported by Israel were significant actors" aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Burning Bridge]

Public School has been increasingly twisted specifically to set kids up for a lifetime of chemical dependency.

 

[The Gene Genie]

I don’t know how much of this I firmly believe, but I think it’s possible:

It seems to me like Trump was allowed to win, or some other power struggle assured his victory behind the scenes. After a year+ of “Literally Hitler” the Institutional Left just…gives up? After deploying a massive riot force to get him out of office in 2020, they just…don’t show up? After rigging 2020, turns out it was…”too big to rig?”

He is indisputably aligned with techfags who want to impose a global panopticon. Elon Musk wants to put chips in peoples’ brains and owns a massive global satellite network. One of the biggest donors is a faggot who owns a company named after Saruman’s evil future seeing orb that works with glowniggers to create full-spectrum profiles of every person in the world.

The RW discoursesphere on Twitter, here, and elsewhere went from a year ago where “the Republic is over, the system is corrupted, and we cannot trust our government” to saying no, actually, we’re fine. It’s particularly egregious for the Twitter RW talking heads who are all moving with this uncritical triumphalist view of the Administration.

Any kind of critique or break-pumping is dismissed with “well what about Democrats? Did you want them to win?” But it seems to be like the Democrats didnt even want to win in retrospect.

I don’t really know where all of these tangents lead to, but all of this is concerning to me and deserves at least some critical thought towards this Administration, lest we all get led by the Pied Piper.

 

[Trump's Chosen]

A long time ago, it was accepted that the Sun revolved around the Earth. People thought it was true because it seemed consistent with their subjective experience and worldview. But when people started making observations and gathering evidence, the geocentric model fell apart. They realized that the subjective plausibility of their preconceived conclusion was just self-deception. You can't learn about the world simply by thinking about what makes sense to you; you actually have to observe it.

You have a preconceived conclusion that sounds perfectly plausible to you. The nature of the observations and physical evidence makes absolutely no difference.

I've noticed this about a lot of holocaust educators. They ask you to "imagine what it was like..." and they kind of paint a picture but let you fill in details in your own head.

Then you end up with an image that is very plausible to you, because you imagined it in a way that makes sense to you. I've noticed a lot of good propaganda works this way. It's kind of like inception, you're asking someone to create an image of something and filling it with their own subconscious and imagination and you end up with an image that seems very true because it's exactly how you imagine things to be.
Sometimes I wonder if this is also the cause of some of the really crazy stories like electrified pools of water; someone was asked to imagine what it was like, and they came up with a way that made sense to them internally. It's just that other people can have knowledge that falsifies it and in the extreme cases like electrified pools of water almost everyone does. The lampshades made of skin fools more people, and then there are other more and more believable parts and of course you arrive at true parts too.

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[Whoopsie Daisy]

I don’t know how much of this I firmly believe, but I think it’s possible:

It seems to me like Trump was allowed to win, or some other power struggle assured his victory behind the scenes. After a year+ of “Literally Hitler” the Institutional Left just…gives up? After deploying a massive riot force to get him out of office in 2020, they just…don’t show up? After rigging 2020, turns out it was…”too big to rig?”

He is indisputably aligned with techfags who want to impose a global panopticon. Elon Musk wants to put chips in peoples’ brains and owns a massive global satellite network. One of the biggest donors is a faggot who owns a company named after Saruman’s evil future seeing orb that works with glowniggers to create full-spectrum profiles of every person in the world.

The RW discoursesphere on Twitter, here, and elsewhere went from a year ago where “the Republic is over, the system is corrupted, and we cannot trust our government” to saying no, actually, we’re fine. It’s particularly egregious for the Twitter RW talking heads who are all moving with this uncritical triumphalist view of the Administration.

Any kind of critique or break-pumping is dismissed with “well what about Democrats? Did you want them to win?” But it seems to be like the Democrats didnt even want to win in retrospect.

I don’t really know where all of these tangents lead to, but all of this is concerning to me and deserves at least some critical thought towards this Administration, lest we all get led by the Pied Piper.

We're witnessing a once-in-a-century transfer of power from one group of elites, to another. There is no left and right, Trump himself is a democrat.
What there is, is a need to change course and direction because the money-men were attempting to sink the USA and move on to another country, as they have done for centuries.

People's reaction to Trump is relief that the old system is dead, combined with a fear-of-the-unknown for what comes next, which is, unknown. The old systems of government and international politics are dying, very quickly. The old Red enemy is no longer seen as a lunatic chimpfarm with nuclear weapons, and more of a level-headed ally that can help bring sanity and stability to the world (rate me optimistic).

For 100 years and more, America's biggest business was war. That business failed miserably in Afghanistan and Ukraine, and the people whose money was lost have had enough. They want returns, in spades, and have realised the best business to be in now is business; manufacturing, agriculture and software services.

As for the future, I expect rampant consumerism to be cooled down in favour of quality over quantity. Cheap chinesium will go the way of the dodo in favour of Western/Japanese high-quality, long-life and high price.
On the front of international politics, China will be pushed to the back of the queue and will only be allowed back at the table with deep reforms. Russia and America will bring the EU to the new ways of governance through pen or through sword and mass civil unrest will rock the continent in a 'final-years-of-the-USSR' style change.

Real tinfoil hat shit
Russia, following the plans laid out in the book "The foundations of Geopolitics", will move on to their next bulletpoint on the list, having succesfully completed the previous points, which is to push India into China. A war between India and China would benefit Russia and America in the same way by removing a military on the doorstep and a financial adversary - and threat to aforementioned products, respectively.
Trump selling jets to India could be the start of this war. Bonus points, India may be hit with an asteroid, hates pakistan and is a nuclear armed country. It may not be an ICBM that fells the Three Gorges Damn, it may just be a river of Jeet shit, too stinky to process and too heavy to hold back.

Thanks for coming to my TEDsperg.

 

[cactus]

We're witnessing a once-in-a-century transfer of power from one group of elites, to another. There is no left and right, Trump himself is a democrat.

That's the real psyop, the media and the uniparty getting so mad at Trump ruining their plans that they conspired to paint him as the most evil, the most vile person because he was a Democrat who came in, ran on the Republican ticket, because the Dems were still trying to push Hillary, but was still a 90s Democrat through and through.

It's so insane how much the media seethed over him to the point they were making shit up about him and managed to convince a good chunk of the population of what I said above, despite how popular the Apprentice was and how much the public loved him in it.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Financial figures have been screwed with to make inflation look worse than it is, most of us know this, for those who don't, the items used by (The UK Government) to calculate the rate of inflation were changed in 2020, to mask how rampant inflation was.

Inflation isn't high for financial reasons, but because of supply and demand of food. Inflation is being used to hide how horrendously close we are to empty shelves and civil panic, so a deal has been struck; High demand and low supply puts prices up, to a certain point, to mask how badly the supply really is.

However, this is failing, as people are adjusting to the higher cost of living, meaning they keep 'rubber-banding' back to their old purchase habits, forcing overnight price-hikes in products to dissuade people from buying, while maintaining a profit margin for the companies.

TL;DR - Inflation is masking starvation-levels of poor supply chains, while stabby-migrants are being used as a distraction so no-one looks too closely.

 

[The Gene Genie]

We're witnessing a once-in-a-century transfer of power from one group of elites, to another

I agree with this assessment of the "Trump Return" more than any other, both the "too big to rig" phenomenon and the "the Jews/WEF/Reptilians hold all the cards" belief.

I think that things are, as you say above with the inflation-masking-critical-supply-problems, worse under the hood that even we know. These people have massive computer-powered projections and access to the real data, versus our analysis of rigged and faked data that we can extrapolate the sliver of the truth of what's really going on. What is worse, I'm not sure, but I think it would be easier to say what isn't going wrong. You have a critical manpower military crisis across the entire West, supply chain issues as you say, infrastructure that was built nearly 100 years ago and never meant to be left unmaintained or not replaced for this long, ecological problems caused by bad agricultural practices and chemical spraying ("solar radiation management" included), and a whole host of others.

I think that it is plausible that a counter-elite, in America (in "Rome", in the power seat of the world) has seized power after an internal power struggle. Whether they want to right the ship, or simply seize the lifeboats for themselves rather than the previous elite, is too soon to tell.

 

[Garnet123]

It's meant to slowly acclimatize people to an idea that they otherwise would violently reject.

Goal: tracking chips implanted in the human population.

If you come at it with "everyone needs to go get a chip," there will be riots.

If you come at it with "every child is required to get a chip along with their childhood vaccines to enroll in school" people will find ways around it.

If you come at it with "every child must be chipped at the hospital directly after birth" people will just go en masse to unregistered midwives.

You have to sell it to them as something that not only is not repulsive, but that they will clamor to obtain.

So you warm them up to it with pets. Here's a safe and easy way to track your pet if he gets out. You make it cheap and bundle it in with other services the pet is already getting, so it just becomes a routine that most people nod along with rather than something they apply critical thought to.

Once people are thoroughly accustomed to this, and anyone who questions it is tarred as an irresponsible loser and weirdo, you can start nudging it closer to the goal.

You could start selling it as a perk for extra elite smart people at first. Prudent, security-minded parents get their kids chipped- then you don't need to rely on smartphones or other bulky, more expensive and risky tech, and you always have peace of mind!

Then you can start nudging it into the routine care package. CDC recommends at this age: Hep B, TDaP, HiB, microchipping...all for safety and just in case...

Add a cashless payment function to the chip and the sheeple will fight to be the first to get it.

 

[AnOminous]

It seems to me like Trump was allowed to win, or some other power struggle assured his victory behind the scenes. After a year+ of “Literally Hitler” the Institutional Left just…gives up? After deploying a massive riot force to get him out of office in 2020, they just…don’t show up? After rigging 2020, turns out it was…”too big to rig?”

So. . .Trump is ZOG?

 

[Fek]

Singling out one quote, but this really applies to a lot that's been said in recent pages:

What is worse, I'm not sure, but I think it would be easier to say what isn't going wrong.

This sentence nicely sums up most of the sentiment I'd like to address. Thank you, friend.

I'd like to pose a question to anyone viewing "what is happening" on the world stage (and will continue to happen) as a "bad" or negative thing.

If a game is setup such that there is no way to "win" beyond illusory gains over one's fellows while under a near-constant state of seemingly never-ending stressors, lack, and divisiveness - would it really be so bad to walk away from the game board? Would it be seen as "worse" to start packing all that misery and suffering up in order to make room for a much better and completely different game?

No matter who desperately clings to power right now.
No matter who is placed "in charge".
No matter what efforts are made to retain some semblance of what used to be called the status quo.
No matter how much kicking and screaming there is from any bloodline or House or "club".
No matter all the best laid plans (or lack thereof).
No matter the number of souls out there Stockholming themselves into wanting "the good old days" back.

We're not going back to how things had been, friends. Do note that I do not bring this up out of a desire to cause any fear or apprehension or inner turmoil. It'll all be (way, way better than) okay in the end. I promise.

 

[The Gene Genie]

So. . .Trump is ZOG?

I think it's indisputable that Trump is firmly within the "Zionist" camp. He has been outwardly pro-Israel his entire political life, and upped the ante quite recently with the "suggestion" (proposal? plan?) that the United States will take possession of Gaza, rebuild it, and "give it to the people in area." Pretty mask off, I would say. But do I think that Trump is part of the "Global Cabal?" I don't know, but I lean towards a "no." I think that Trump represents some other form of elite, some other group. They are clearly at loggerheads with the "Global Cabal" as expressed by the current leadership across the Anglosphere and Europe.