Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[The Un-Clit]

I’m not a legal scholar but shouldn’t you avoid using ethnic slurs In your court filings? “jipping“ refers to Gypsys.

On the west coast according to my folks it used to be "Japping" rather then gypping or jipping. In a bit of leftover WW2 hatred towards the Japanese. The more you know!

Thread tax: Russ will be just as unwilling and unable to pay $1000 as he is $5000. This ruling will not be seen as a win by him. Only a complete reversal of the order would be. "After all, who is suing who here? Josh should be paying HIM not the other way around for Frick's sake!"

 

[Third World Aristocrat]

Jersh's commentary on this case during today's MATI, including his reasoning for why he doesn't plan to appeal the judge's ruling.

Spoiler: Transcription:

Hardin filed his fees. Hardin requested $5,500 of sanctions against Greer based off time spent and what would be reasonable for an attorney of his caliber. And that's a very little amount of time for any kind of discovery stuff. It's very fair and reasonable. Russell Greer immediately replied to him, responding that he would request this amount of money by saying, I'm not paying you a dime and I'm prepared to appeal the hell out of this. And then the judge, the actual judge says that he gets $1,000 in sanctions instead of the full amount. And this is actually not a valid move on the judges part. The rule says that the judge shall issue sanctions and the amount that is due and shall not consider things like in forma pauperis status. So he's breaking the rule on this outright. And then additionally, he's breaking the rule because the options that the judge has for the sanctions are either A, adopt them in full, or B, give us a chance to respond first before giving a lesser or altered sanction anyway. The judge ignored both of these rules and explicitly stated that his in forma pauperis status means that he doesn't have to pay us back the money that I have to spend anyways, right? And then also, he is not going to give us a chance to respond.

Now, let's be clear. It doesn't matter if we get $1,000 or $50,000 because Russell Greer is broke ass. $1,000 might as well be $1 million as far as he's concerned at this point in time as far as his ability to continue his litigation.

As far as appealing it, I decided not to because I feel like the judge has already made up his mind and appealing it doesn't matter and we'll just piss him off. Also, Greer is facing two more rounds of sanctions because he's fucked up every single step of discovery deliberately and maliciously. So chances are that the ship's going to add up anyways. And there's no point getting caught in the small details of something that's already been remedied. So the main thing... No, I won't mention that. I'll mention that one day, Chyat, one day. Outside of that... Outside of... And the case has been doing well for us in case you're wondering, but I'll talk about it in full later.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

C'mon, Russell! File something and dig that grave a little deeper!

 

[Harvey Danger]

C'mon, Russell! File something and dig that grave a little deeper!

Can you believe he's let that ruling, and Hardin's complete slander, stand unopposed for days now? Clearly Greer agrees with Hardin's version of things, just like the very sympathetic judge who ruled on the sanctions. I, for one, take Greer's studied silence as a great moment of acceptance and surrender.

I know Greer would never join this site to respond in this thread. However I would accept a strenuous, well-researched Objection and Motion To Set Aside Judgement, the perfect vehicle to explain his side of the story, which the District Judge clearly missed in the record.

 

[Jacknife]

I think he enjoys 'being in a lawsuit' with someone. Makes him feel like an actual lawyer and not a homeless doordash driver.

Fuck! I actually feel retarded now for never thinking about that, that has to be it. He's just larping.

However I would imagine that by now the novelty of that has worn off and all that remains is exhaustion from this situation he got himself in.

Speaking of said exhaustion, I could imagine that the current sanction + the other ones might overload him mentally, especially since he will probably futily try to appeal all of them.

Probably he will jsut beg for extensions or whatever and get them IF there are any other deadlines he could miss around that time

 

[obsdj]

However I would imagine that by now the novelty of that has worn off and all that remains is exhaustion from this situation he got himself in.

I don't think he's there yet. He is still full of righteous "I have the truth and the facts on my side!" anger.

 

[Harvey Danger]

I don't think he's there yet. He is still full of righteous "I have the truth and the facts on my side!" anger.

I think he was there in November, when the judge had to tard-wrangle a schedule out of him. He was constantly complaining about Josh's unwillingness to settle, and how unfair it was that he couldn't just move on with his life.

However now he can't just let the case drop until he explains, on the record, how Hardin violated the SPO a dozen different ways, in bad faith, and in flagrant violation of pro hac vice guidelines.

 

[DavidS877]

It's Russ' time to shine, he FINALLY gets to EXPLAIN.

Don't fuck it up, Russ.

 

[ScooterL]

I’m positive this is a case where our favorite moron didn’t expect things to get this far, and now he has no idea what to do.

We have recordings of him in front of judges in two cases, trying an impassioned reciting of The Plights, apparently believing that's enough to win.

I bet he thinks that will work this time, if he can just get in front of a jury. He might even sing them a song.

Can you believe he's let that ruling, and Hardin's complete slander, stand unopposed for days now?

Maybe he'll play his ace, the only realistic move left to him, that he tried before the transfer to Florida: ghost the court, and hope everything goes away.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Maybe he'll play his ace, the only realistic move left to him, that he tried before the transfer to Florida: ghost the court, and hope everything goes away.

I thought you meant his epic dance moves. Surely that’s Russ’s final form? It got him an associate’s degree, after all.

 

[SCRAM]

You aren't getting any Greer fillings today, it's Valentine's day so he's probably gotten a loan to take a special lady out to olive garden.

Though he can probably only afford hand holding.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Fuck! I actually feel retarded now for never thinking about that, that has to be it. He's just larping.

I don't think he particularly cares about "feeling like a lawyer" - he wants to feel in control or that things are going his way.

So a lawsuit against the Farms that remains open forever with absolutely no action by either party whatsoever would be fine with him.

Or some other way he can soothe himself and pretend it's all fine.

 

[Bloodthirsty Nosenigger]

However I would imagine that by now the novelty of that has worn off and all that remains is exhaustion from this situation he got himself in.

Speaking of said exhaustion, I could imagine that the current sanction + the other ones might overload him mentally, especially since he will probably futily try to appeal all of them.

I think it's worse than that for Crusty Rusty. He clearly takes pride in his paralegal degree, having declared himself to be "practically a lawyer" in the past.
And yet, even among the litigious lolcows Null had the misfortune to encounter, he may well be the least accomplished.

Melinda, complete moron that she is, got a default judgment entered against Kiwi Farms (a website). Sure, she only accomplished that by failing to serve her opponent and flat out lying to the court, but for a fleeting moment, the court ruled in her favor.
Stebbins is a confirmed vexatious litigant, but even he got a settlement in his favor against another moron.

What has Rusty accomplished in the legal field, in order to satiate his deluded sense of self-worth? Getting the appeal on this very case, allowing him to proceed on the merits of his claim, or lack thereof.
That's it. That's the closest he ever got to success. And likely the only form of validation he ever got in his adult life without paying for it.
That appeal was as good as it's ever going to get for him, and it's all been downhill from there. With every step closer to actually seeing a court room, his inevitable defeat creeps closer.
He has no meritorious claims, he doesn't know what he's doing, and he managed to drag his family members into this, who are obviously ashamed of him.
This is why he's been stalling as much as the court has unreasonably allowed him to do. Somewhere deep inside his demented, gimpy-faced retard mind, he knows how this is going to end.
So, naturally he's going to cling to the small taste of victory that the Appeals Court allowed him to have - he's got nothing else going for him!
Neither in this lawsuit, nor in his legal "career", nor his entire life.

And unlike the Olive Garden Hooker, he can't run out the clock. His stalling merely delays the inevitable, at increasing costs to himself.
This is never, ever, ever going to end well for him.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Getting the appeal on this very case

Just to nitpick and further disparage him, Greer didn't get it. His vulture copyright lawyers did and immediately bailed after they got it, leaving him whinging about that in his further submissions.

 

[Bloodthirsty Nosenigger]

Just to nitpick and further disparage him, Greer didn't get it. His vulture copyright lawyers did and immediately bailed after they got it, leaving him whinging about that in his further submissions.

Oh, I'm aware that Russell's not remotely competent enough to handle an appeal himself. I just doubt that fact changes anything in his perception.
Greer's a raging narcissist; if anything good happens to him, that clearly means that he was entitled to it. To Greer's mind, the appeal merely proves he was right all along.

For the same reason, I think there's a decent chance he'll actually go through with his threats and file a Hail-Mary appeal regarding the sanctions.
Being forced to pay Null anything would be an undeniable loss, and I don't think Greer's feeble brain can handle that level of narcissistic injury.
This comes down to a battle between Greer's ego and his cowardice...in other words, his two most defining characteristics.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

This is going to be a battle between Greer's ego and his cowardice

May the best man win.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Realistically, what happens if Russ doesn't pay, and gets contempt of court, but can't be arrested because he's never given the court a real address? And is in a different state too?

Can Russ keep emailing the clerk and shitting up the docket as a fugitive? Or will the clerk start telling him "I'm not allowed to file anything else for you until you turn yourself in to the police!"

 

[Bridgeburner]

Fuck! I actually feel retarded now for never thinking about that, that has to be it. He's just larping.

However I would imagine that by now the novelty of that has worn off and all that remains is exhaustion from this situation he got himself in.

Or you could say litigation is his hobby. It's not even as expensive as hobbies go, I know a lot of guys who sank way more than $775 into Warhammer 40K. But I think it's escapism from his dreary life as drooling hobo. Most of it's done via filings, so he's not that incomprehensible (though he still manages to fuck up writing in his own language) and I bet he imagines himself he's making a chess move whenever he files something.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

Or you could say litigation is his hobby.

You might be on to something here. Imagine trying to talk to Russ (paralysis aside) about his hobbies, he'd always bring it back to hookers, suing, and suing hookers (and Null ).

 

[Jew-ish]

Or you could say litigation is his hobby. It's not even as expensive as hobbies go, I know a lot of guys who sank way more than $775 into Warhammer 40K. But I think it's escapism from his dreary life as drooling hobo. Most of it's done via filings, so he's not that incomprehensible (though he still manages to fuck up writing in his own language) and I bet he imagines himself he's making a chess move whenever he files something.

He thinks if he gets thread(s) and all mentions of him removed from the farms, people won't be a search queue away from discovering he's a depraved freak who happens to also have a disability.

What he doesn't realize is nobody needs the internet to discover any of his depraved behavior. It's who he is, and he can't hide it... but any win will reinforce his litigious behavior, and he will keep suing women to go on dates with him and touch him his penis.

If Null can get him labeled a vexatious litigant, it will be a service to woman kind as a whole.