Aaron Imholte / Steel Toe Morning/Evening Show / "The Toe Boys" / r/steeltoeboringshow - Disgraced Minnesotan radio host turned racist Internet shock jock. Cuckold chef de Spaghetti-os, "2-2" boxing "coach". Has a legion of a-logs. Lost his wife to a coke addict he played "Strip Twister" with. Fined $50 for sharing nudes of Kayla Rekieta.

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If Nick gave a shit about his wife or his children, he would have had his attorney send a strongly worded C&D to Aaron, Geno and Keanu, warning them that any further dissemination of Kayla's nudes would result in criminal prosecution.
Threatening criminal prosecution to get an advantage in a civil matter can be considered extortion. It can also get you in trouble with the Rules of Professional Conduct. There are ways of doing this without it being extortion, but Swiss cheese brain Nick probably is incapable of not fucking up.

Michael Avenatti is currently in prison for just such conduct, among other things, and didn't even threaten actually to bring criminal proceedings, merely to accuse Nike of them.
 
I do not believe that is true at all. Nude pictures are illegal to share by default, Aaron has to prove he had a reason to assume otherwise.
No, criminal defendants do not have to disprove an element of the offense. The state must prove them all.

Under the revenge porn statute, the state has to show that "the image was obtained or created under circumstances in which the actor knew or reasonably should have known the person depicted had a reasonable expectation of privacy." Minn. Stat. § 617.261.

The statute wouldn't have been found constitutional if all nude pictures of any kind were illegal to distribute.

(This one isn't looking good for Aaron if Kayla can testify that the Signal group it was posted to was intended to be private.)
 
I must respectfully disagree on that. One of the necessary elements of the offense is:
My point was that whether he got the pic from: the Signal chat, snapping a nude of Kayla, or Kayla sending him a nude is irrelevant if there is evidence that there was a reasonable expectation of privacy and that he wasn't permitted to share it

Threatening criminal prosecution to get an advantage in a civil matter can be considered extortion. It can also get you in trouble with the Rules of Professional Conduct. There are ways of doing this without it being extortion, but Swiss cheese brain Nick probably is incapable of not fucking up.

Michael Avenatti is currently in prison for just such conduct, among other things, and didn't even threaten actually to bring criminal proceedings, merely to accuse Nike of them.
Yep he'd accuse them unless they paid out and then gave him a hefty "Consultant" fee
 
No, criminal defendants do not have to disprove an element of the offense. The state must prove them all.

Under the revenge porn statute, the state has to show that "the image was obtained or created under circumstances in which the actor knew or reasonably should have known the person depicted had a reasonable expectation of privacy." Minn. Stat. § 617.261.

The statute wouldn't have been found constitutional if all nude pictures of any kind were illegal to distribute.

(This one isn't looking good for Aaron if Kayla can testify that the Signal group it was posted to was intended to be private.)
I was talking about privately taken nudes exclusively, not porn or content distributed by the person depicted themselves.

For me it is pretty clear that the picture was taken in private and Aaron should have known it was not free to share.
While the state might have to show that to be accurate, it is a very easy thing to do and I expect any jury to understand that "nudes of some housewife shared in their polycure are not for the public".

If Aaron wants to argue that, he has to prove he had a reason to think otherwise.
It is not a high bar to show a picture was not for public distribution.

"Who took it?" Likely the husband or the "victim" herself.
"Where was it shared?" In a private chat.
"Who was it shared with?" Her current lover.
"Did she share it publiy elsewhere?" No.

Done. Privacy expectation established.
 
Nick and Kayla have never met Geno and Keanu in person. Geno and Keanu visited St. Cloud 2x and stayed with the Imholtes before the polycule was formed, or Nick's pathetic effort at standup.
You’re right, I’d forgotten this.

Follow up dumb question then:

Did Aaron choose to go to trial based on an assumption that Geno could, and would, decline to appear in court? I definitely remember that being raised after they made up.

Because that would be very funny if it was a false assumption and Geno is now forced to testify or face a perjury charge himself
 
You’re right, I’d forgotten this.

Follow up dumb question then:

Did Aaron choose to go to trial based on an assumption that Geno could, and would, decline to appear in court? I definitely remember that being raised after they made up.

Because that would be very funny if it was a false assumption and Geno is now forced to testify or face a perjury charge himself
Aaron is a fucking moron, but he isn't this level of retarded, going to court without a reasonable strategy to get himself out of a felony.
Maybe he will prove me wrong and go to jail over a single nude picture of the pill-fiend, but I don't expect that to happen.

If he is really betting it all on Geno not showing up and/or Kayla dropping the complaint then he deserves whatever he gets.
 
I do not believe that is true at all. Nude pictures are illegal to share by default, Aaron has to prove he had a reason to assume otherwise.
At least under Minnesota law that is how I understand the legal standard.
Like I said, the onus is on Aaron, but only if she testifies. Otherwise he can claim permission and if she doesn't say otherwise, game over.

It's very simple. She doesn't need to say I explicitly told him not to show photos. She just needs to say she didn't consent and unless he can prove she did, he is toast.

She can't refuse to take the stand and also quietly behind the scenes say she didn't agree.
 
Did Aaron choose to go to trial based on an assumption that Geno could, and would, decline to appear in court? I definitely remember that being raised after they made up.

Legally/strategically this question is better posed to @Potentially Criminal who covered it last night. TL;DW: It would be pretty dumb for Keanu and Geno NOT to appear.

Aaron's getting bad legal advice if he didn't think Geno and Keanu would be forced to appear.

My IANAL opinion, judging from when Aaron was discussing it...

I think Aaron believes that the State will drop the charges when they fully understand the hacking issues. He seemed to conflate them when discussing the PI.

Is that dumb because they're separate crimes? Yes.

Is it possible that the Stearns County will see all of Nick's fuckery and drop the RP charges? Also, yes. It's MN.

Edit and ETA: Ethan Ralph is on with Melton & Co about Aaron and the RP Case. Show is live now.

 
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Edit and ETA: Ethan Ralph is on with Melton & Co about Aaron and the RP Case. Show is live now.

Anyone sniping? I refuse to give views to pedos.
Also Ralph 12 hours ago: I'm going to destroy the dabbleverse.
Now: On a dabbleverse show.
Probably 12 hours from now: Sucking off Aaron to appear on the much more successful Steel Toe Morning Show next week.
 
My point was that whether he got the pic from: the Signal chat, snapping a nude of Kayla, or Kayla sending him a nude is irrelevant if there is evidence that there was a reasonable expectation of privacy and that he wasn't permitted to share it
Well, true, but the totality of the circumstances include where he got it from and what the expectation was. If he got it from a public Locals posting, there clearly wouldn't be an expectation of privacy, or at least not a reasonable one. That doesn't appear to be the case. Obviously if he snapped it, consensually or not, I think it would presumptively be expected to be between them.

Once you have it in an online group having group sex with each other, I think that seriously dilutes any expectation. Would four people having access to it reasonably expect it to be private? Eight? Twelve? At what point does it become completely unreasonable to expect everyone receiving it to keep it private?
Aaron's getting bad legal advice if he didn't think Geno and Keanu would be forced to appear.
It's actually rather unusual for such an utterly trivial offense. One person sending one picture to one other person who then deleted it? This is what they're using the kind of law usually used to get witnesses for real crimes like murder or dealing large amounts of drugs?

I'll note the case upholding the constitutionality of this law (against a rarely won facial overbreadth argument) involved the defendant breaking into the computer accounts of his estranged ex, threatening to publish, being told this was a criminal offense by the victim, and then disseminating it to 45 people. Every step of this process involved a separate crime other than just the dissemination crime.

So he attacked the only way he could, with an overbreadth charge, that is, the statute is so vague (it actually isn't) that it violates due process by chilling far too much First Amendment speech for its purpose, i.e. not narrowly tailored to further a compelling government interest. This is essentially asking the court to throw out the statute in its entirety so that it can't be used against anyone, even someone like Casillas, the defendant, who had inarguably behaved criminally and in a constitutionally unprotected way.

This case is just not anywhere close to other cases the statute has been applied, to constitute a felony.

I'm not expecting this to set a precedent, but I think the prosecutor is construing the statute in a recklessly expansive manner and it would be disturbing if this law means what she thinks it does.
 
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Aarons going to go to trial in Blue MN, the jury is going to be a bunch of angry liberal blue hair women who are extra mad at men because of Trump.

Aarons fucked.
A majority of the counties in MN are red, including Stearns.
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Stearns County voted nearly 2-1 Republican for Trump, and has voted Republican since Bush Jr's 1st term. Heck they even voted against Mondale in '84 (the election where Reagan won every state but Minnesota). St. Cloud itself votes Democrat, but there is more to the county than just St. Cloud, and the jury pool pulls from the entire county.

More people will know Aaron because of the radio show than would know Nick, but it's still more likely no one on the jury would know either of them. That said, for those not suffering from an existing case of STDS, Nick comes across as by far the greater idiot and faggot.
 
If Nick gave a shit about his wife or his children, he would have had his attorney send a strongly worded C&D to Aaron, Geno and Keanu, warning them that any further dissemination of Kayla's nudes would result in criminal prosecution.
Not even that. If he cared about his wife and children, he would be hamming up on Twitter right now about how hurt Kayla supposedly is by what Aaron did, instead of giving the world hourly reminders Aaron ate his cum.

Let's be honest here. Nick does not give a single solitary fuck that anybody saw Kayla's boobs. He's probably shared pics of them himself. He has little respect for his wife and her "destroyed body." All he cares is there's a section of the MN penal code he can leverage against Aaron to fuck with him.

The felony enhancement appears to be very aggressive, but that was the prosecutor's decision to pursue that. Aaron also waived his right to challenge probable cause on that for some reason.
It is common for prosecutors to overcharge somewhat in order to entice a plea deal. Which is what I think happened here. Moreover, if Aaron takes this to trial (which I really don't think he should), the jury has the option to convict him of the misdemeanor and acquit him of the felony. Both charges are on the sheet.

Doesn't Aaron have the right to face his accuser(s) in court?
If they testify against him, you're damn right he does. That's literally the Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment.

Wasn’t keanu and possibly Geno already “in the gang” at this stage? If Kayla shared a picture with one of her friends and he shows it to another one of her friend group, why’s this a crime.
I think the issue is gonna be they weren't in the Signal group.

the jury is going to be a bunch of angry liberal blue hair women who are extra mad at men because of Trump.
Wrong.

A majority of the counties in MN are red, including Stearns.
Correct.

When I say that MN has a retarded blue state judicial system, what I mean is the statutory crap that emanates from the state legislature that molds the laws and rules that system has to play by.

MN is like many blue states in that the major urban areas where most of the population resides is blue, but much of the land area is actually red. The whole urban blue rural red paradigm has mostly held true for as long as I can remember.

The local jury pool they have to draw upon here is majority Republican.
 
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Once you have it in an online group having group sex with each other, I think that seriously dilutes any expectation. Would four people having access to it reasonably expect it to be private? Eight? Twelve? At what point does it become completely unreasonable to expect everyone receiving it to keep it private?
I agree with your view on this, but I'm not sure you'll get some normies to buy it.

I'm not expecting this to set a precedent, but I think the prosecutor is construing the statute in a recklessly expansive manner and it would be disturbing if this law means what she thinks it does.
This would be a far better case to appeal than the one you cited. The one you cited is a great example of bad facts leading to bad case law.

Aaron's getting bad legal advice if he didn't think Geno and Keanu would be forced to appear.
I wouldn't have bet on this happening in a million years. Not only are the parties acting retarded, but the prosecution is beginning to act that way.
 
I agree with your view on this, but I'm not sure you'll get some normies to buy it.
I just noticed I misconstrued the point of your previous post for some reason. Still physically recovering from hospitalization. Sorry. I scrubbed that section of my last post.

I agree with you 100%. I do have concern he's not pleading out on the misdemeanor, although I don't how much risk that puts him for a felony conviction. I would presume the further you push the process, the greater the risk to at least some extent.
 
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Nobody on the jury is going to know Nick as anything but Kaylas husband.
If they hear him testify, they will know him as absolute scum they hate and detest.
I agree with your view on this, but I'm not sure you'll get some normies to buy it.
I actually think normies will be utterly disgusted by the deviant sexual conduct engaged in by all four of these repulsive people. Any actual prosecution of this before a jury will have to involve testimony by at least some of these people and the people in their orbit.

I think normies would be disgusted by it enough to lack sympathy for anyone involved.

But then you could get some bluehaired jury of redditors or something by pure bad luck. And they'd love the whole idea of polycules and cuckoldry and degeneracy in general. Man this world is fucked up lately.

I think the result of a jury trial is unpredictable. This is why Aaron should take the low risk option of the misdemeanor. It is not like he will be besmirching some reputation white as the driven snow. He's a known fuckup.
 
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