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a Jaque Villae interview will be released on Monday and we were given a sneak peak!
4 minute clip is below, but i had to detail this one
he believes parapsychology is a way to contact alien entities
he said he, Jacque, not someone he was "researching", had an experience in San Francisco, where he made a number of "structured environments that might be susceptible to bringing that kind of experience of contact" but nothing happened, only "vague impressions" whatever the fuck that means?
but then... one night... Jacque is asleep (yes, asleep, actually asleep) and all of a sudden, POOF... his consciousness travelled OUTSIDE of his body!
he tells us that he has never done any training for this, i guess he is just that good :smug:
he goes on to say that this was not under his control, he was just transported from his apartment to being in front of a large entity, WOW GUYS
the good news is he said the entity wasnt threatening, and that the alien had no "features" but was "clearly ready to communicate"
he doesnt describe the alien, at all, or where he was transported to or ANY kind of details that would be burnt into your mind
he said he was outside his body so he couldnt hear the entity :lossmanjack: its pretty horrifying to learn my soul doesnt have ears, im ontologically shocked rn
he then says that he was so scared, so very scared, that it must have shocked him back into his body
then when he woke up he started crying because he was so surprised by how true and honest this all was, so true and honest
he then reiterates that his "body was asleep the whole time, but my mind wasnt asleep"
he then makes sure to let everybody know he wrote about it in his book :story:
he says there is more to the story (in his book) and that he wants to explore it more, but he "doesnt want to lead the reader to any theory about what happened"

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i dont know why though, she has said this before, so as Nancy Mace and other congress people
they said it TO askapol, and podcasters too, ive heard them say worse than those words at least twice
i think they are just impatient about all the waiting theyre having to do
an absolutely braindead comment with 41 upvotes with a pretty funny response
Why is it the whistleblowers responsibility to provide proof of their claims?
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its not just about proof, its this insufferable drip-feed that never actually ends in a "drip" dropping

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very useful effortpost from rUFO user that i have saved on my PC and might even expand upon
goes over the more fantastic and out-there claims by different talking heads, longish so behind spoiler
As many of us know, some of the most credentialed UFO insiders seem to have fairly fantastical beliefs outside of the UFO realm.

Here is my attempt to list and document them:

Jay Stratton Former Director of the UAP Task Force (UAPTF) and intelligence official involved with AAWSAP and AATIP. Helped investigate Skinwalker Ranch, a site infamous for bizarre, unverified paranormal reports.

Encounters with “Werewolf-like Entities”: Stratton has claimed to witness large, bipedal wolf-like creatures at Skinwalker Ranch. These alleged encounters bear similarities to folklore and urban legends rather than any scientifically verifiable phenomenon. No credible biological or forensic evidence has ever been presented to support claims of werewolf-like creatures roaming the Utah desert.

Emphasis on Paranormal Research Over Hard Science: Rather than focusing purely on the aerospace and defense implications of UAPs, Stratton and others entertained supernatural explanations that blurred the line between folklore and legitimate military intelligence work.

2. Lue Elizondo Former Director of AATIP, leading Pentagon investigations into UFOs. Became a key advocate for UAP disclosure, but his statements about paranormal activity raise questions about his scientific rigor.

Orbs in His Home: Elizondo claims that orbs of light appeared in his home after investigating UFOs. Such reports are common in paranormal circles but lack any objective verification. The so-called “hitchhiker effect,” where people exposed to UFOs experience ongoing supernatural disturbances, has never been tested under controlled conditions.

Remote Viewing a Terrorist: Elizondo has admitted to participating in a classified remote viewing experiment in which he allegedly located a terrorist target using psychic perception. Remote viewing was part of Project STAR GATE, a Cold War-era psychic spying program that was ultimately shut down due to lack of scientific evidence. The CIA’s own declassified evaluation of STAR GATE concluded it was useless for intelligence gathering—yet Elizondo and others continue to endorse similar ideas.

3. Tim Gallaudet Retired Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy, and former NOAA administrator. Advocates for UAP disclosure, but his belief in psychic abilities suggests a departure from empirical science.

Claims About His Daughter’s Psychic Abilities: Gallaudet has publicly stated that his daughter has precognitive abilities (the ability to see events before they happen). No scientific study has ever validated precognition, and claims like these are widely considered hallmarks of superstition rather than legitimate scientific inquiry. If high-ranking military officials are seriously entertaining unproven psychic phenomena, this raises concerns about their decision-making processes in national security matters.

4. Garry Nolan Stanford immunologist and leading figure in UFO research. Despite his credentials, Nolan has drifted into fringe territory by advocating for theories lacking empirical support.

Childhood Encounter with an “ET”: Nolan has stated that as a child, he saw a short, gray-colored being standing in his room. He initially dismissed it as a dream but later concluded it was a genuine extraterrestrial or interdimensional being. This claim rests entirely on subjective experience, with no supporting evidence—a common theme in many UFO-related anecdotes.

Dubious Neuroscientific Claims: Nolan has conducted brain scans on UFO experiencers, claiming they have unusual neurological structures that might make them more “attuned” to UAP encounters. However, these findings have not been peer-reviewed or replicated, and no established neuroscientific framework supports the idea that brain anomalies predispose people to seeing UFOs. His work skirts dangerously close to pseudoscience, reminiscent of past discredited research that tried to link brain structure to supernatural abilities.

5. Hal Puthoff Physicist with expertise in exotic propulsion and zero-point energy, but also a longtime advocate of questionable paranormal research. Key figure in AATIP, AAWSAP, and the CIA’s STAR GATE program—all of which have been criticized for their lack of empirical rigor.

Scientology Background & Pseudoscientific Influences: Puthoff was a high-ranking member of the Church of Scientology, achieving Operating Thetan Level VII—a belief system that teaches humans have superhuman mental abilities. Scientology doctrine emphasizes psychic powers, telepathy, and non-physical beings, which aligns with many of his later research interests. His early research into remote viewing was heavily influenced by Scientology’s teachings, raising concerns about scientific objectivity.

Endorsement of Discredited Remote Viewing Studies: Puthoff led CIA-funded experiments on remote viewing, despite the overwhelming failure of such techniques in controlled settings. Even after STAR GATE was shut down due to lack of results, Puthoff continued to push for further government-funded ESP research.

6. Jim Lacatski Former DIA intelligence officer who initiated AAWSAP, which ended up spending millions on Skinwalker Ranch and paranormal research. His decision to fund supernatural investigations instead of strictly aerospace-related UFO studies raises questions about misplaced priorities.

Paranormal Experience at Skinwalker Ranch: While visiting Skinwalker Ranch, Lacatski claimed he saw a dark humanoid figure with an undefined face in a newly constructed house. Instead of questioning the psychological or environmental factors that could explain this, Lacatski used this single experience to justify a major DIA research initiative. The research he funded blurred the line between serious defense concerns and ghost-hunting.

Government Funding for Pseudoscience: Under Lacatski’s leadership, AAWSAP allocated funds for studies on poltergeists, dimensional portals, and supernatural “hitchhiker effects.” This has led to criticism that the U.S. government misallocated taxpayer money on what amounts to paranormal speculation rather than legitimate scientific inquiry.

This was my attempt at a start. I personally feel there should be some sort of running list that documents this type of stuff. It’s too easy to hear these individuals claims about UFOs in a vacuum, even though their other ideas or experiences clearly impact the veracity of their claims.
 
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More of the Jacques Vallee thread

But we got this NEW old stuff:
New Lue Letter to congress show Bigelow UAP Facility Approximate Location (archive) (PDFs attached)
This just dropped, Dean Johnson shows 4 letters that Burlison/Nancy Mace sent to Lue, Tim, Gold and Shellenberger after the Nov 2024 Hearing, the letters are a set of questions that they need to answer back in letter form. The most intersting letter is the one sent by Lue, it contains some new information regarding 11 questions.

Lue Letter : https://imgur.com/a/813odmi

You can read the letters, but the most important parts are : The Gov discovered new physics from the study of UAPs and is using those materials in defense projects. Lockheed wanted to get rid of the UAP materials because they couldnt discover anything new anymore and probably because of budget cuts after 9/11. Rep Steny Hoyer asked for the allocation of 10M$ for Bigelow Aerospace to build a facility at Patuxent River Naval Air Station to host the UAPs, Lue visited the hangar during construction. Then CIA and Air Force blocked the transfer. This facility is SAP-F, means it has the requirements for Special access programs.

Location, but we dont know the precise hangar : https://imgur.com/a/ETJ0vNe

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There exists a "UAP Security Classification Guide" which outlines the classified aspects of UAP and their levels of classification, and a "UAP Collection Requirements" doc at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

In 2004, a one week conference was held by the gov to decide if they will disclose or no, and they came to the conclusion that they shouldnt. This conference was sponsored by the White House !

For me this was interesting because it means that Bush was aware of the UAP topic, and some whistleblowers like Bill Uhouse said that their NDA finished in 2003, so it may indicate that the gov was planning disclosure on 2004 and even NDAs were set for that date.

Video of Puthoff who describes what happened during that event because he was present and says that some of the reasons were financial, because companies would sue the governement for giving privilege to some companies (like Lockheed i think) : https://youtu.be/9azht9pCDwg?t=121

Link to PDF Letters : https://x.com/ddeanjohnson/status/1890447592162550027 [archive]

It's almost stormin' time. Area 69, here we come!
 

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i put just the questions and answers in the spoiler
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claims broken down from the questions asked to the answers given, in full within the spoiler above:
-Lue says that Bigelow aerospace got 22 million to SCIF-out the facility in order to house UFOs
-he says 9/11 cucked UFO efforts, meaning they stopped caring about UFO projects
-he says defence contractors currently employ exotic materials of non human origin, and also says we have made breakthroughs in physics due to these recovered craft, undisclosed to the public (the UFOs and the physics)
-he says he is aware of evidence that the US or defence contractors have recovered crashed UFOs, and that "biological specimens" came with some of them
-he says the US gov decided, in approx 2004, after 1 week of deliberations, the US gov would not disclose aliens
-im just gonna re-post this one sorry, its too long and gave me a headache reading it-
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-he says the CIA blocked the transfer of "materials of advanced non human origin" to Bigelow Aerospace from Lockheed, and the way he says it makes me think its pieces of something and not a whole UFO being referred to
-he further confirms there was an attempt to move ^ said ^ materials, and the hanger they built to house it cost 10 million, and that image etc is in Shooters post above
-he refused to answer how it was determined that Lockheed actually had this non human technology that he never saw, which is something they love to do
-further says the CIA blocked it, and that theyre working to conceal UFO related information/media, and they have threatened families over it etc
-another one worth just posting, where he is asked "where did the money go?"
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but it seems like JFK and MLK files will be addressed before aylmaos
I mean what more can be said about the JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations? It's been over sixty years, and in any case even if there was shit sitting around Trump and Team telegraphed their "disclosure" of these long-dead cases for months. Long enough for anyone who suspected there might be a loose file sitting untouched in a warehouse somewhere to go comb through and burn it all.

The UFO phenomena is much larger, much deeper-spanning, and is still ongoing. I said earlier in the thread that I believe Trump 2.0 is the most likely person to disclose, but that's because everyone else hasn't and he made vocal motions to do it. But at this point, considering this dismissal of the "NJ drones" as "FAA-approved testing" and left it at that, I very much doubt anything will come of this.

The grift-and-misdirection-and-cattlechuting will continue. The only way this ends, as I've said, is if Mister Spock lands and throws the salute. Nothing less than that.
 
I mean what more can be said about the JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations? It's been over sixty years, and in any case even if there was shit sitting around Trump and Team telegraphed their "disclosure" of these long-dead cases for months. Long enough for anyone who suspected there might be a loose file sitting untouched in a warehouse somewhere to go comb through and burn it all.
i think its more about Trump being the one to finally do it
it is probably a lot easier to do and it is probably a lot more tangible than UFO documents/evidence
there are real documents that exist with the assassinations, people know where they are but they are heavily classified
whereas with the UFO stuff it is all he said/she said, and literally nobody will tell anybody who knows what, or where what is, nether documents or evidence
it could be that they are burnt to a crisp by now, but i guess we will know soon
The only way this ends, as I've said, is if Mister Spock lands and throws the salute. Nothing less than that.
i think some kind of Snowden level leak would end it for me
i think we are so used to the revolving gaggle of retards that we forget someone who isnt them could actually have something, and for real
some dork goes live from China, has insane credentials within the DOD
he has a tiny little UFO that can fit in his hand, zoomed in on and you can see seriously alien shit going on
he takes a selfie with a tiny dead little mini bugger alien, then he does a tiktok style dance video with it and uploads it to Weibo, Redbook and TikTok
hes got pictures and videos that can be forensically examined and when it went public the US went ballistic
that would end it for me tbh, that would be enough i think
 
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i think some kind of Snowden level leak would end it for me
Was thinking the same after checking in on this thread the other day. The Coulthart egg interview killed off any inkling of truthfullness to the current "whistleblower" types, and now they all seem like blue bean clowns. At this point, for me, continuing to pay attention is more of an entertainment thing, combined with sunk cost fallacy. May as well see where this leads even if I don't buy it.

The main issue with a "catastrophic" leak is national security, which is understandable, but other than that or some nations coming out and actually demoing hover tanks or some shit, I can't see how this is anything but a psyop/distraction/grift/etc. The extra-dimensional stuff is hard to buy, but when they start throwing in psychic controls and alien dream ghosts it just seems ridiculous. I mean, the universe is massive, it seems improbable that we're alone out here, but psychic eggs? What's next, the jellyfish UFO is controlled by magick that involves burying frogs in your garden?

This stuff also makes it more difficult to believe a UFO Snowden as well. He's gonna have to have some undeniable proof.
 
Was thinking the same after checking in on this thread the other day. The Coulthart egg interview killed off any inkling of truthfullness to the current "whistleblower" types, and now they all seem like blue bean clowns. At this point, for me, continuing to pay attention is more of an entertainment thing, combined with sunk cost fallacy. May as well see where this leads even if I don't buy it.
yeah, none of those people or anyone they are connected to have anything, and Barber might have been the biggest L in a long time
when he started crying over his gay "experience" i just burst out laughing thinking "this is where they are at, this is what they have left at the bottom of the barrel"
i dont even believe Grusch has good witnesses, or knows any current locations
i am just sick of people saying they have something then coming up with 101 excuses as to why not to give it up, when the answer is clearly that they dont have it and its just a series of people being convinced of something they havent yet seen
if a leaker comes out, unconnected to all of these people, then i will be interested
so far, every single one has been connected to the people who came before them
and this new Jake guy? hes connected to Greer, who may just be the worst UFO grifter of all time, which is hilarious
The main issue with a "catastrophic" leak is national security, which is understandable, but other than that or some nations coming out and actually demoing hover tanks or some shit, I can't see how this is anything but a psyop/distraction/grift/etc. The extra-dimensional stuff is hard to buy, but when they start throwing in psychic controls and alien dream ghosts it just seems ridiculous. I mean, the universe is massive, it seems improbable that we're alone out here, but psychic eggs? What's next, the jellyfish UFO is controlled by magick that involves burying frogs in your garden?
but you have to admit, from nuts'n'bolts to veering off into emotional feminine psychic eggs from another dimension, that is pretty funny
i think a lot of people who put way too much trust in retards needed a wake up call, and i hope Jake was it
This stuff also makes it more difficult to believe a UFO Snowden as well. He's gonna have to have some undeniable proof.
yeah he is also going to have to be dodging who he associates with too
because if he has "proof" hes prepared to share but it came from Bob Lazar or Lue Elizondo then ill pass as well
 
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I mean what more can be said about the JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations? It's been over sixty years, and in any case even if there was shit sitting around Trump and Team telegraphed their "disclosure" of these long-dead cases for months.
I don't know, but NewsNation, Ross Coulthart, Tim Burchett, etc. will be there:



This stuff also makes it more difficult to believe a UFO Snowden as well. He's gonna have to have some undeniable proof.
We're in this current era of UFO discourse because The New York Times and The Washington Post simultaneously promoted three crappy videos in 2017, with AARO attempting to debunk one recently. I don't think a lot is actually needed to move forward, not even a single caught-in-144p video. We simply need to see organizations and individuals with real clout to get behind it. Which could be a big ask if they don't want to do it (or if there's nothing available to leak), as the NYT largely retreated from the UFO coverage since around 2020.

The Snowden documents were drip fed over months and years, arguably not "catastrophically" leaked (the earlier WikiLeaks diplomatic cables flooded out because David Leigh published the password), and promoted by simultaneous coverage from The Guardian and The Washington Post, with many other big outlets like the NYT, Der Spiegel, etc. getting involved over the years. And this was stuff that was interesting but maybe not immediately verifiable, like PowerPoint slides describing PRISM and XKeyscore. But it was widely accepted as accurate information and you could see the government officials seething about it. Many people got wise to the specifics of global surveillance, but the hype died down and it is more difficult for lower level employees to pull a Snowden since the risk has been recognized. Much less an employee of allegedly murderous aerospace/defense corporations.

Harald Malmgren died. No Disclosure for old men, Rest in Psionic Powers:
https://x.com/DrPippaM/status/1890418724022178099 (archive) (Reddit)


NewsNation’s Natasha Zouves, host of “The Truth of the Matter,” sits down with Air Force Veteran Dave Crete. He says he served on a secretive range in the Nevada desert that encompasses Area 51, and now decades later, he and hundreds of his fellow veterans who were engaged in top secret work are getting sick -- developing tumors, serious health issues, and in some cases, deadly cancers.

Area 51 Whistleblower Speaks Out (archive)
an interesting, although not directly related comment on yt
@notgunnadoit7461

If you guys think Area-51 has some weird shit going on? I will point you to a small island chain in the central Pacific. We have a base there where I worked as a PMC GS-15 with 1811 authority. A PMC is a private military contractor working for the federal government. GS-15 is a high level civilian rank in the U.S. government equivalent to a US Army Colonel. 1811 is the federal job code for federal special agents like FBI, DEA, ATF, FISH and Wildlife, DoS and Secret Service. We were flown out to the last island with an airstrip, then waited until night and we got on a very large sea going ship, then we transferred to a much smaller offshore boat for about 3 hours and we reached the dock at sunrise. You cannot see anything while approaching the island. Even after docking in the daylight you could only see this massive long stone and concrete platform and a cleared trail heading into a jungle, forested cliffside until we reached a massive steel and concrete door. THE ENTIRE facility was way underground. It was below sea level for sure because this massive elevator (large enough to fit two semi's on) would take us down - you could feel the falling sensation - and it would take about 10 minutes to get down to the main facility. That's all I'm going to say about the subject.

Richard Dolan’s New Book Just Released: A History of USO’s: Unidentified Submerged Objects - "Book 1 of 3 finally released."

Latest interview with Ross. Good stuff.
 
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there was an article on substack, a pretty damn good one too and i highly suggest you read it
A very good article written by a pro-disclosure French media but which gives a pragmatic overview of the current situation.
"some good parts" would end in me linking the whole thing
it is well written, and is quite critical of the current trent, especially Jake and Lue
it specifically calls out their word play tactics they use to be taken more seriously
meaning they intentionally mask what they really mean with clever language so that it doesnt sound as ridiculous as it obviously is
e.g, "i believed it was a form of non human intelligence" VS "i believe it was a psionic angel sent from God to protect me, and it is my guardian"
it linked to the askapol article i quoted above, and i noticed something
i have noticed that they are all giving this non-answer when asked about Mr Psionic Man Jake Barber
i have heard this answer 4 times already, and i refuse to believe they didnt hear about the absolutely retarded shit they said
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"what do you think of Jake Barbers claims?"
"oh i uh havent gotten around to it, i have just been so busy"
i think the problem is Jake Barber is connected to all the same people that everybody else is
so criticising him is discrediting other talking heads who work with him

Skywatcher Part II becomes more ridiculous
"data", when they have already made large AND small claims none of which they have substantiated
"framework of disclosure", a novice farmer counting his chickens before theyve hatched
"multiple videos and analysis", when they claim they are psionic UFO summoners, that they can connect, summon and land UFOs, whats to analyze about landing a fucking UFO literally anywhere?
they then give people a 4-6 week "coming soon" period
oh and another thing, why dont they release this data to the public?? why "independent", why not release this data to the public?
probably because then they cant make up stories and film birds and say they summoned more UFOs
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The Challenge of Psionic & UAP Disclosure with Ross Coulthart
there is no challenge to disclosure of psionic abilities, its pretty straight forward
stop announcing. dedicate the next month of your life to the ability you say you have. summon a UFO, land it, film it, upload it, maybe snap a piece off, contact the authorities. but thats not going to happen, because psychic UFO summoning is a retarded thing to believe in.
there is a clear lack of demonstration, yet an egregious over-explanation of how true and honest everybody involved is
they are just 1 step away from saying "the UFOs know when you are filming them, and they will break contact and not let us control them"
Sounds like Ross is working on reverse engineering witnesses next. Could be better than summoners.
cant wait to see where Ross takes this next LFG
 
I feel like we should see some type of evidence.
I think the very thing that we listen to and stare at the cosmos with our best-aided eyes/ears and still see absolutely nothing is enough of staggering evidence. If one rules out the simulation hypothesis (which I don't), it seems that either the developed life is extremely rare or that the cosmic vastness and relevant speeds can't be conquered in principle. There are various great filter theories out there but again, the absence of something that should be there is evidence enough.
 
Greer goes on a podcast and says some stuff
he says aylmaos arent angels/demons, spirits or light beings, that they are physical biological bodies that travel in spaceships from another planet
With all the current disinformation out there regarding the UFO/ET subject, it’s important to re-emphasize a few things

1. ETs are NOT demons. ETs are biological beings from other planets.

2. We DO have man made UFOs. (Lockheed Skunkworks, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman have all been reverse engineering ET craft since the mid 1900s)

3. ETs are NOT a threat to humanity. They have patiently not attacked us even though they have superior technology and we have been attacking them.
#explore #explorepage #ufo #reels #foryou #foryoupage #uap #projectbluebeam


Greer says that rogue government have the UFOs and aylmaos
he says he knows their round-about location, but that his whistleblowers "know more"
he also says he is working with spec-op guys to liberate the aylmaos, and its easier to just read what he said :story:
"there are some very brave men i am working with, spec-forces guys, that are prepared to go in and get those fasclities under control and also to liberate those people"
"thats crazy too, if thee things are so smart and advanced how are they going to let one of their own be held captive by us?"
"just because youre advanced doesnt mean terrible things dont happen, you could throw spears at a helicopter and make it crash, so you know, bad things happen"
( ^ he kinda rambles a while on this point ^ )
"i was told there are 1 or 2 ET craft per year downed, and i went over 2 black sites, so you know 2 or 4 a year over a big area of that part of the desert, so its not like they are dropping out of the sky like flies-" *rambles*
"and when there are ones that are living they just don't flat out kill them, they would prefer to interrogate them and keep them and so my understanding is that there are a number of ETS that are in captivity and are still living. one guy euphemistically called them refugees, i think not, they're prisoners"

Greer says that he is in contact with insider defector black ops inside the program who have the knowledge about the deep military underground bases forming a network connecting Nellis and Edward base. He also says that they know about NHIs held captive in those underground locations by the deep state and that the spec ops are ready to go and secure those facilities and save the NHIs if the elected governement gives the green light for the operation. Those claims of underground bases connected are verified by the declassification of the Los Alamos underground tunnel : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PlLvb_d8saE
here is the full podcast, came out 1 day ago

Steven Spielberg's disclosure movie has been delayed to June 2026
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Gary Nolan and Karl Nell talk on stage at Sol
i havent watched it but i assume it will be a total slop fest
Karl Nell with Dr. Garry Nolan on The UAP/NHI Hilbert Problems: Defining a Way Forward
Aerospace executive Colonel (ret.) Karl Nell in dialogue with Stanford University Medical School professor and immunologist Dr. Garry Nolan on Nell’s vision for collective, interdisciplinary scientific research on UAP. Closing conversation at the second Sol Foundation symposium, November 23, 2024, San Francisco.
 
Why does Nell look bogged in that thumbnail?
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I found the short clip of Greer a bit puzzling. It sounds like he's anti-Egg, but I thought he was in some way associated with Egg? The non weapons in space thing seems kinda... sensible as well. Perhaps I should force myself to listen to the entire podcast. Ugh.

(by Egg I'm referring to the Grusch/Coulthart/Berber/etc stuff)
 
I found the short clip of Greer a bit puzzling. It sounds like he's anti-Egg, but I thought he was in some way associated with Egg? The non weapons in space thing seems kinda... sensible as well. Perhaps I should force myself to listen to the entire podcast. Ugh.
Jake Barber said that Greer is the real deal, and Jake seems to be leaning heavily on the woo side
i dont think bodies have ever been discussed by Jake, so who knows, maybe what each of them are saying is in line with eachother
IIRC all the focus was on the egg and footage, not a whole lot of talk about bodies because it was just an egg shaped thing with no bodies mentioned
after that it became about summoning the UFOs and about veering into the woo, which again is a step away from alien bodies
i was under the assumption Jake thought these crafts were piloted by some kind of spiritual thing, but i am not sure if thats what he believes
we might have to wait for Jake to say more stupid shit before we know for sure
 
he says aylmaos arent angels/demons, spirits or light beings, that they are physical biological bodies that travel in spaceships from another planet
Good on him for saying the thing that makes sense to most people.

A lot aren't buying Greer as a whole though:
Dr. Steven Greer Calls Out Lue Elizonda for Lying, Confirms What Chuck Schumer's "Catastrophic Disclosure" Means (archive)

Steven Spielberg's disclosure movie has been delayed to June 2026
Insignificant delay, could be jockeying for a better opening weekend.

Preservetube for Nell and Nolan: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=oWN82MCmXn0

NewsNation: Coulthart: ‘No coincidence’ Australia’s Skinwalker Ranch near US base - NN articles are virtually impossible to archive now, so here's the text:

This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.

Barber and Coulthart were at the Esalen summoning. A Skywatcher psionic confirms the event. He says: "The NHI told me you can best understand us as coming from what you would call 'the afterlife'. The eggs are unpiloted, a type of manifestation". Garry Nolan was involved in this NHI questioning (archive)
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Spot the Looney.

The Hill (Marik von Rennenkampff): House Republicans demand UFO transparency (Reddit) - The NewsNation archiving problem has spread to the other Nexstar property, The Hill.
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Luna's Disclosure Team is Getting Bigger (archive) - They are complaining about a surplus of crazy Republicans, handjob Boebert, and a lack of Democrats. Dems might be coming later.

Nancy Mace (member of Luna's task force), posts a picture of the JFK murder with a UFO pic next to it: "Whats done in the dark will come to the light. @realannapaulina". Is she tying the murder to UFOs? Today is also the deadline for the CIA and other agencies to deliver details to the taskforce
https://x.com/NancyMace/status/1891949559288562071 (archive)

Fox News: Task force to expose 'federal secrets' on JFK assassination, Epstein, UFOs packed with GOP rebels (archive)

Universe Today: What Would Actual Scientific Study of UAPs Look Like? (archive)

The r/UFOs Modcast S1E4 is Out – Breaking UFO News, Interviews, and More. Meet some of the moderators.
 
i forgot to add, the tweet that alerted me to it
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articles have come out that David Grusch is an executive producer and consultant on an upcoming aylmao movie
im glad he can take time off from not releasing the op-ed to make some of that sweet Hollywood money
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Gary Nolan also released this at the SOL conference, and this is an archive
its a "how to defeat debunkers" guide
page 1 of 26 pages all contained in the archive
ill go through this when i am bored because i would like to see if it shows how Gary perceives people who doubt him/his friends
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Some slop:
* Join us for an all new multi-subreddit AMA with Leslie Kean, Dr. Peter Skafish, and Karin Austin - Saturday, February 22nd at 1pm PST
* Matthew Pines confirms his 2024 'coup de grâce' comments referred to The Age of Disclosure
* Gary Nolan has released a 26 page guide on how to deal with "debunkers" and the arguments they put forward. - 676 comments.
* Jake Barber, David Grusch and Ross Coulthart at Esalen UFO summoning event (archive) - 1405 comments, just removed from view (later locked) by mods on a technicality.
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* Eric Davis "We couldn't understand the propulsion, Lacatski went inside the UAP and they didn't find any energy source or propulsion system"


SS:
Eric Davis as a Physicist is the most serious source on the topic and he states :

1-An aerospace company (Lockheed) has a UAP

2-Foreign countries also have materials related to UAPs

3-There was 0 advance concerning the reverse of the propulsion system

4-Lacatski went inside the Lockheed UAP, there was no visible propulsion system or energy source

5-The small reverse concerns some material science

6-ARVs have never existed
* I’m really disappointed to see psychedelics being included in the Psionic summoning of UFO discussion. (archive)
* The Real Secrecy Isn’t Just UFOs—It’s Control Over What We Believe Is Possible (archive)

 
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