I regret I made the OP using the word "disastrous" and know they attack entire Kiwifarms because of my bad choice of words (I am ESL). I wanted to use it more in the meaning of controversial, trash fire.
Since the poll was closed, I feel I also I should have gone to remove the celebrities that arent really grifters but are depraved. I am not sure is Rev is an flip-floping, he seems to be sincere about being a lolicon, consuming all kinds of porn.
I need more thoughts from you
@Endless Torment,
@Male Idiot,
@30+GameOvers,
@Puar and others...
I also need
@Toji Suzuhara to give me some proof that Vee flip flopped. Because as far as I know he only pretended to be an Orthodox Christian while being degenrate with porn games.
Rev is a pervert, possibly a lolbert (

), but he is just a drama farmer. I don't think he is a flip flopper, he just drama farms. He never pretended to be a super right Jesus Warrior. He is depraved but I wouldn't list him as a grifter. The guy is just a honest degenerate.
Now Nuxanor maybe more of a grifter as he flip flops much more. Yes Nux, you hate the lolis so much you wanted Shadman art, despite bringing up the six gorillion every video you make. He is a (((Leaf))) so pilpuls away all his drama. But he could just be trolling for money. Can you be a grifter if you openly admit you are just making drama for money? He reminds me of another Leaf, Short Fat Otaku aka Dev.
Vee is a romanian liberal, very much like how Trump used to be a liberal. The overton window in Eastern Europe didn't flew leftwards like a hypersonic missile, so his super Beanie Fence Sitting (TM Tim Pool) comes across as Le Hecking Giga Based to your average western person. He is just your typical east european nerd. He likes video games and tits, simple as.
This whole drama makes a lot more sense if you are aware that non-anglos centrists are akin to western liberals from the 80s. If you asked a general person off the street in Bucharest, Budapest, Belgrad or Moscow, he would generally just shrug: Who the fuck cares about these first world problems?
If you asked them to find a degenerate, they would look for a nude man in a trench coat fapping in public, or a weirdo who smells dogshit on the sidewalk, or steals used panties from women's laundry basket, or a homosexual.
A pornmag is just not seen as that big a deal, even the right wingers give no fucks about it. It is seen as a nothingburger. Christians in the EE are more concerned with faggotry and le feeding the poor than with a nudie bar, you need to find the few fringest /pol/ posters to get a spergery about pixel tits, but those guys are very few and far between and very unhinged, like look at Azov or other Atomwaffe equivalent people.