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Should be a wild four years.

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14 days for public schools in all 50 states to remove all DEI programming or lose federal funding.

States' rights, amirite?

Regardless of how you feel about progressives this is federal overreach and the premise it establishes is fucking grim.
Your African American heritage is showing. Its not the state's right to get gibmedats, Tyreese.
 
God smiting the shit out of people is like, 2/3s of the OT
The other 1/3 of the OT is a cycle of God saving the Jews and then the Jews worshipping golden idols and then getting wrecked again and crying for God to save them then repeat.

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14 days for public schools in all 50 states to remove all DEI programming or lose federal funding.

States' rights, amirite?

Regardless of how you feel about progressives this is federal overreach and the premise it establishes is fucking grim.
So if we search your post history we'll surely find you making similar comments about overreach when Biden was threatening to pull federal funds from schools that DIDN'T enforce DEI and tranny shit? Because that happened just a couple years ago.

If you haven't been consistent in your statements, time for the burger suit.
 
Groypers seem to be brown

>savior of the white race
>last name Martinez

Audible boos for the US National Anthem in Montreal before the USA-Canada 4 Nations Face-Off hockey game

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They won't be booing when we lower the red leaf in Ottawa and raise the stars and stripes


First Doge subcommittee hearing from a few days back. The first quarter had a few people earnestly trying to get things done and one or two later, but 85% of it is political theatre, mostly but not all on the Democrat side. High notes include the screeching about ‘unelected’ elon and the DOGE kids accessing data, as well as about 1:54:10 with some rightward theatre calling out their “god Anthony Fauci” etc.
All in all, 7/10 entertaining to have on in the background while gaming. Would recommend.

It's funny they leveled criticism of the DOGE people based on their age for a few reasons, firstly us having congressmen in their fucking 80s or close to it (some of which need wheelchair assistance to get around as their bodies falls apart) and our founding fathers were largely in their 20s and 30s when they convened to craft one of the greatest founding legal documents ever written by man, would they just be "dumb kids"?
 
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14 days for public schools in all 50 states to remove all DEI programming or lose federal funding.

States' rights, amirite?

Regardless of how you feel about progressives this is federal overreach and the premise it establishes is fucking grim.
The States have the absolute Right to pay for its DEI programs itself. They don't have the right to demand other states help pay for it.
 
Regardless of how you feel about progressives this is federal overreach and the premise it establishes is fucking grim.
You mean like the overreach of tax-payer funded MSM, both national and foreign, pushing trannies and faggots for 10+ years, and those who spoke out about it lost their jobs and livelihoods?

Or the over-reach of making false documents to falsely accuse a political opponent of falsified crimes? Not once, not twice, but thrice?

Or forcing a botched withdrawal of a military theatre, despite it endangering allies' lives?

Or weaponising the IRS to target anyone who spends more than $600 in one go?

I could go on, but nahh, THIS overreach - one that most voters support, is the one that's bad.
 
I can’t wait for liberals to say prescription drug ads are actually a good thing because you need to know about many drugs for weird diseases and that Big Pharma are just wholesome chungus boys looking after you.
They’ll support them because drug ads are literally the only thing keeping television from officially dying, and if television goes, all of their news organizations go
 
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14 days for public schools in all 50 states to remove all DEI programming or lose federal funding.

States' rights, amirite?

Regardless of how you feel about progressives this is federal overreach and the premise it establishes is fucking grim.
Nigga that reinforces state's rights, allowing them to do something while not having to support it.
That implies the most the federal government can do about unwelcome stuff is to not support it, instead of the alternative where the state has to pay for every educational insitution, which comes with the caveat that they'd now be legally forced to do what the federal government wants because there isn't a cutoff between the federal and the state.

If they can't stop funding schools then they can't stop having direct mandate on what's taught, because when you force them to have your money you also force them to do the fed's bidding with it.


Note: they're gonna lose federal funding regardless since the DoE is getting shut down, all the funding is now gonna be on the state level, meaning the people of each state, hell, even of each county, will have far more control over their money going to it.
 
I can’t wait for liberals to say prescription drug ads are actually a good thing because you need to know about many drugs for weird diseases and that Big Pharma are just wholesome chungus boys looking after you.
I'm legitimately interested on what the spin/excuse is going to be. Especially if they are told "we'll address the root causes instead of just overloading you with meds".

I cannot think of a single excuse that doesn't sound akin to an obese fuck saying "I DON'T WANT TO GO ON A DIET, I WANT MY OZEMPIC".
 
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14 days for public schools in all 50 states to remove all DEI programming or lose federal funding.

States' rights, amirite?

Regardless of how you feel about progressives this is federal overreach and the premise it establishes is fucking grim.

If States want to fund DEI programs on their schools they can do it themselves, the Fed will just not fund it.

If you offered conservative and right wing states the choice to lose federal funding for immigration but the freedom to run themselves however they want it they would take it.
 
Nigga that reinforces state's rights, allowing them to do something while not having to support it.
That implies the most the federal government can do about unwelcome stuff is to not support it, instead of the alternative where the state has to pay for every educational insitution, which comes with the caveat that they'd now be legally forced to do what the federal government wants because there isn't a cutoff between the federal and the state.

If they can't stop funding schools then they can't stop having direct mandate on what's taught, because when you force them to have your money you also force them to do the fed's bidding with it.


Note: they're gonna lose federal funding regardless since the DoE is getting shut down, all the funding is now gonna be on the state level, meaning the people of each state, hell, even of each county, will have far more control over their money going to it.
DOE being gutted doesn't necessarily mean the fed money for schools goes away. Schools are also already primarily funded through city, state, and county taxes anyway so the federal funding is essentially a little extra on top for school districts, typically used for the principle to embezzle so they can buy a 100k luxury car somehow on a public servant's salary
 
DOE being gutted doesn't necessarily mean the fed money for schools goes away. Schools are also already primarily funded through city, state, and county taxes anyway so the federal funding is essentially a little extra on top for school districts, typically used for the principle to embezzle so they can buy a 100k luxury car somehow on a public servant's salary
You know what, fair enough. I looked at some stats on County/State Funding vs. Federal Funding per student per state and it is proportionally much smaller in more progressive states than in more conservative states. Like Mississippi's public schools in particular receive about a 1/3rd of their funding from the Fed but that area is so Red you'd think the entire state is a stuck traffic light.
Fair enough, I yield, it won't have as much of an effect in the areas it's most likely to affect. I'm sure there's some exceptions but overall this isn't nearly as bad as I thought it was.
 
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14 days for public schools in all 50 states to remove all DEI programming or lose federal funding.

States' rights, amirite?

Regardless of how you feel about progressives this is federal overreach and the premise it establishes is fucking grim.
I'm not a fan of the federal "tee hee we aren't mandating this nationally, we'll just make highway funding dependent on if you follow these guidelines" bullshit they've been doing for decades. But that's how we've been running the country ever since the New Deal. "The premise it establishes" is older than you are, and was last seriously challenged/affirmed at SCOTUS in 1987.

Trump doing this changes exactly nothing in relation to states rights or federal overreach. It's completely status quo. The only difference is Trump isn't a preening ivory tower conservative wannabe intellectual, refusing to play by the same rules as the other side because of a long-extinct theory. He's not one of the GOP "lose with nobility" class, he's trying to actually do something.

What's remarkable is that for all the fear-mongering about Trump being a fascist dictator, he's using boring old rules and institutions that the Democrats established long ago. He's just using them to different ends. Even DOGE, as radical as it appears, is just a renamed Obama agency, flexing its established powers to audit the departments it was already embedded in, instead of acting as secondary IT support. Using federal funding to promote "general welfare" policies is so established, it was old news before Trump even built his first hotel.

Trump is terrible at being a dictator. But he's good at maximizing the amount of chaos he can trigger within an ordered system. This might be the first Administration in political history trying to strike that balance, I am wracking my brain trying to think of a 2nd example.

If I was arguing pure theory, tearing down the entire government in a way even Trump would be afraid of, yes, I would undo the Spending Clause power creep and rewrite things to give states more power. But I'm not a revolutionary (yet). So I'm not going to whine that my side shouldn't use established power and norms to enact the will of the people, while the other side bulldozes norms to power creep during their Administrations.

I won't agree to fight with both hands tied behind my back, because I am not a lolbertarian.
 
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