Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[warhammerautist]

The politicians had to do some Epstein kind of shit in Ukraine they don't want leaked out

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Is for Vladimir Zelensky to look beyond the waste heaps and behind the fields, where the horde is…and call Volga 149. 200.

I know you're joking but being exiled to Russia might not be his worst option. Maybe he can move in with Assad.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I know you're joking but being exiled to Russia might not be his worst option. Maybe he can move in with Assad.

Well, he wouldn't be living near Assad, more like a cell, but he might be able to be able to leave not feet first...someday. He's getting thrown under the bus, at least with Russia he knows what to expect.

 

[Kane Lives]

How though? Russia's position is that this whole thing started because the West installed a puppet. The West is now going to prove them correct by dropping Z and quickly installing a new puppet nobody's ever heard of? How would they explain that without giving the whole game away?

The COVID debacle proved to me that a large majority of people will parrot whatever the TV box says. Easy enough to sell the need for another puppet that isn't Z.

 

[The Ugly One]

Not an artillery expert so i dont know but i am 100% sure even an el-cheapo quadcopter can fly a lot farther than 100mt. i have seen them flying km's away and back.

The cheapest ones, those $50-$100 models on Amazon, can't pick up a radio signal past 50m.

also prices dont scale up that steep.

Yes, they do.

https://draganfly.com/products/heavy-lift/

DJI Matrice 600

Discontinued. DJI Flycart 30 is a mere $20K and can carry 66 lbs, but unfortunately has a range of only around 2 miles with a full load and definitely cannot hit Mach 2.

does Excalibur really have inertial guidance? even if it does though, inertial is way less accurate.

Yes. An inertial guidance system is basically what's in a Wii Remote. Let me illustrate why it matters:

 

[Light blue notebook]

Whatever happens at the peace talks, at the very least Russia should thank the west for a big test for their army, and was able to shake off the rust and get rid of some unnecessary weight.

A check up is necessary every now and then, and from what was seen in the beginning it was long overdue.

 

[Overly Serious]

I know you're joking but being exiled to Russia might not be his worst option. Maybe he can move in with Assad.

I see a sitcom in the making...

 

[Charred Dinosaur]

I see a sitcom in the making...

The first episode will be Zelensky waking up from a 5 day long bender. After getting increasingly irritated by the coke he took still dilating his pupils he visits the local optometrist. Shenanigans ensue.
The episode then ends on a cliffhanger after they end up boarding the wrong plane and try talking to the pilot, Prigozhin

 

[Cuckoman]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/17/revealed-trump-confidential-plan-ukraine-stranglehold/

https://archive.md/i5mGM

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Sounds like normal negotiations to me.
You start with over-reaching and an unreasonable demand, then the other side negotiates it down to something acceptable and both sides end up feeling like winners.

I think someone even wrote a book about this is how successful negotiations are done.

 

[warhammerautist]

 

[Male Idiot]

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Is that a good thing, geopolitically speaking?

 

[Lukie]

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I hope the Russkies tell them to fuck off out of principle

 

[Soyjack Pinhead]

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I'd be skeptical of what BRICS News posts. They're just some rando with a Twitter account.

That being said, a complete withdrawal of sanctions would probably be the biggest defeat of the West this century. Sanctions were supposed to be the economic equivalent of a nuke, but now they look more like a popgun.

 

[Uncle Holter]

That being said, a complete withdrawal of sanctions would probably be the biggest defeat of the West this century. Sanctions were supposed to be the economic equivalent of a nuke, but now they look more like a popgun.

In hindsight, it's frankly unbelievable that anyone thought it would work without getting China onboard. What does the west make that Russia needs? Microchips? That's about it, and it's not like they are tightly controlled and can't be easily smuggled in though proxies as they are tiny and weigh almost nothing. It's a lot harder for Europe to replace Russian oil and gas as it is bulky.

 

[Welf Welf]

In hindsight, it's frankly unbelievable that anyone thought it would work without getting China onboard. What does the west make that Russia needs? Microchips? That's about it, and it's not like they are tightly controlled and can't be easily smuggled in though proxies as they are tiny and weigh almost nothing. It's a lot harder for Europe to replace Russian oil and gas as it is bulky.

When your (the Western elites) entire cultural point of view is built on finance and globalized trade, you tend to think cutting someone out of your trade and finance system will be a crippling blow. The idea of going outside such a system was clearly unthinkable to these people.

 

[Overly Serious]

In hindsight, it's frankly unbelievable that anyone thought it would work without getting China onboard. What does the west make that Russia needs? Microchips? That's about it, and it's not like they are tightly controlled and can't be easily smuggled in though proxies as they are tiny and weigh almost nothing. It's a lot harder for Europe to replace Russian oil and gas as it is bulky.

You have a point but I feel this undersells the efforts Russia put into handling the sanctions. Firstly, they spent nearly a decade building up a warchest ready for this war. They knew it was coming and they prepared big time. It's not enough to still be able to still have trading partners, you have to have the liquidity to deal with all the dirty tricks that get pulled from cutting off international payments, banks freezing transfers of funds arbitrarily in order to try and trigger non-payment clauses in big contracts (which they did), your own actual owned assets being illegally frozen by other countries, the interest on those frozen assets being kept by those other countries for their own profit and finally being given to Kiev or used as collateral for loans to Kiev. And not only did Russia build up a big warchest, as I understand it their banking chief or economics ministers (I've forgotten their name and role) pulled off some very nimble financial manoeuvring to keep all the finances working.

Russia's fundamentals are solid - you're not wrong. But Russia couldn't afford to take the sanctions lightly. Fortunately they didn't. Russia has turned out to be very, very good at playing the long game. Something the West seems to have forgotten how to do.

 

[jje100010001]

Personally I think Russia should not seek an off-ramp to this conflict under the current terms (i.e. Euro peacekeeping troops in Ukraine); it is far more preferable to keep on attritioning the Ukrainians than to seek a bad peace.

That being said, Russia also can't stay turtling and needs to deal with Odessa at some point before the Brits and French get their claws into it.

 

[warhammerautist]

I'd be skeptical of what BRICS News posts. They're just some rando with a Twitter account.

That being said, a complete withdrawal of sanctions would probably be the biggest defeat of the West this century. Sanctions were supposed to be the economic equivalent of a nuke, but now they look more like a popgun.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

I see a sitcom in the making...

Servant of the People, Series 2: Zelensky wakes up in Ursula van der Leyen's sex dungeon with a massive hangover. He flees only to discover that he's in Brussels, in 2025, and no one will believe he is who he says he is, so he needs to go on a European road trip odessy to get back to Ukraine and reconstruct what happened in the six years since the end of Series 1. Basically EuroTrip meets The Hangover.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

For some time, the 17th separate motorized brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces disappeared from radars after a scandal with the encirclement of part of the brigade units in the Olgovskiy forest of the Kursk region. Then the brigade command left more than 500 people to die, cut off ties with all relatives and "went into the fog."

Several weeks passed, and, apparently, the brigade restored its reserves, but there is a nuance. It was not possible to replenish the ranks with freshly mobilized fighters. The Supreme Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not provide such an opportunity after the failure near Kursk, but did not cancel the execution of tasks. As a result, the unit began to recruit women.

According to some data, over the past 3 days, more than 130 female tank crew members have died, burned out right "at their workplaces" Link

I didn't known what to make of this since I hadn't heard much about it but this video popped up:

Russian convoy stumbled upon two tanks with all women crews on the road

and this comment, in Russian, in a private chat: "They recruited women...tankers. In 3 days we laid out 133 tankers...burned them right in their tanks. They didn't even have time to start the tanks".

So now that they ran out of men they using up their women (as predicted). I think when this is over we will find out the people of the Ukraine have been destroyed-men, women and even teenagers were sent into the meatgrinder, just so Ukrainian, Euro and American oligarchs could keep their grifts going. Now that they ran low on Ukrainian meat they want to send in British, French and Italian men in too.

WW3 is a real possibility now.