Manosphere Andrew Tate / Top G / Cobratate - Egotistical MRA "influencer", arrested for trafficking in Romania, lied about having lung cancer

[Debbie Macomber]

I've commented before on how the stories Andy tells of his sainted father make him sound like an obnoxious asshole.

I wonder, does Andy ACTUALLY admire his abusive father? Or do you think he just elevates him to this mythical figure chess champion secret agent Kung Fu master to elevate himself, and for all we know, personally hates his dad?

Notice that for all he claims to revere his father, he answers to his middle name, Andrew, and all his branding is "Andrew Tate" though his first name is Emory, after his father and grandfather. For how proud he claims to be of his father, he will never answer to Emory Tate III.

I also wonder if he's truly stupid enough to believe all this abusive behavior was some sort of training to toughen him up and that he was a good father. Like saying their dad would shove him and Tristan to the ground as toddlers, but it's okay, daddy didn't do it because he was just an ill tempered, probably drunken, bully who can only push around his own small children to feel strong, it was actually to teach them "how to get back up again".

Mind you, telling stories about an abusive father to farm sympathy is exactly what you'd expect from a manipulative narcissist, but his Alpha Male persona prevents him from really crying "Boo hoo, daddy touched me!" Maybe he tries to fish for the same sympathy while maintaining the alpha male persona by telling the story while playing dumb, as if he doesn't know this behavior is abusive so he isn't complaining about it.

I've also speculated before a good number of these stories and quotes probably never happened, and are just fables to insult/inspire his tater tots while attributing the shithead takes to his dead dad so he doesn't have to take the heat for them.

 

[The Cringe Connoisseur]

No amount of being an insufferable irredeemable piece of shit man child will change the fact that the only thing that runs from this loser faster than any woman with self respect and an IQ out of the double digits is his hairline.

 

[part timer]

I wonder, does Andy ACTUALLY admire his abusive father?

I can shortcut this

If he respected his father, he wouldn’t have become a craven waste of a human being; his father was in the air force, and he was on reality TV.

 

[The Foxtrot]

his father was in the air force

Just being in a uniform doesn't elevate your status in the world, given how Emory Tate Jr. was clearly a piece of shit in his personal life by all trustworthy accounts. Not to mention that it's very possible that Emory Tate Jr. did not receive an honorable discharge from the USAF, if little Andy Tate's story about his dad "quitting" is even remotely based in reality...

and he was on reality TV.

And was a failed amateur boxer. And a failed drug dealer. And a child rapist. And an internet pimp who became so brazen that he (and his brother) are now facing multiple cases against them. Seriously, Andy Tate has two separate pending criminal cases in Romania, one in the UK, and another one in the USA. I think he also has at least 2 civil cases active against him as well. Also quite possibly a murderer too, given how Vivian's alluded to having needed to help Tate dispose of a body before.

 

[Ashkenazi Porn Actress]

People in the Trump administration are apparently trying to pressure Romania over the Tate case.
Richard Grenell is confirmed to have approached the Romanian foreign minister Emil Hurezenau. And before somebody brought them up in a phone call and inquired about relaxing their travel restrictions.
Article in the FT
G4 Media (Romanian, translated link)

But doesn’t it seem like his defense only really got more broadly noticed recently?

From what I've seen the big Anti-Tate accounts like Murdered by Crayons (CrayonMurders) and Nathan Livingstone (MilkbarTV) have been on his ass hard ever since he stepped in the arena for Tate. That he was now named in a law suit didn't help.

 

[Yamma Damma]

People in the Trump administration are apparently trying to pressure Romania over the Tate case.
Richard Grenell is confirmed to have approached the Romanian foreign minister Emil Hurezenau. And before somebody brought them up in a phone call and inquired about relaxing their travel restrictions.
Article in the FT
G4 Media (Romanian, translated link)

Still don't know much about Tate but I do know Donny T tends to attract some craaaaazy characters. Like instead of the faggot gender/negro/gay "woke" commie crazies from the biden years, he's got the faggot moral-grandstanding "based" bible-thumping crazies. both of which spend far too much time on the internet.

According to this guy, if there's truth that Tate fans wormed their way into Trump's inner circle and are whispering into his ear to get Tate freed, all the literal blood sweat and tears spilled to get Trump and the actual Conservatives to this point will be wasted. The media will pounce like the desperate hyenas they are and we ill never hear the end of it (if they still have the money to make sure we never hear the end of it, that is).

I hope it's not true or else it will be the obama/biden years returning on crack and fentanyl mixed together.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I think Trump's policy is that he'll take votes from anywhere he can get 'em, hence posing with Qanoners and holding the fag flag, so I don't think he'll ever call out Tate by name, but I don't think he'll ever support him by name either. He'll keep lawyers of plausible deniability between them to play both sides

 

[Doug S]

So, according to the Financial Times, people in the Trump admin - possibly with Trump’s permission or endorsement - have been working to get Andrew Tate’s passport back. As anyone knows, this is the key to him escaping Romania and possibly prosecution altogether.

Financial Times:

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Trump administration pressures Romania to lift restrictions on Tate brothers​

Spoiler: Full text

Marton Dunai in Budapest, Henry Foy and Gideon Rachman in Munich

Tristan and Andrew Tate have been charged with sexual misconduct, organised crime and money laundering

The Trump administration has pressured Romanian authorities to lift travel restrictions on the self-described misogynist influencer Andrew Tate, a champion of the US president who is facing criminal charges in Bucharest.

Andrew and his brother Tristan Tate, who are dual US and UK nationals, have become a cause célèbre in rightwing social media after having been arrested in Romania in 2022 and charged with human trafficking, sexual misconduct and money laundering, as well as starting an organised crime group. They have denied wrongdoing.
The Tates’ case was first brought up by US officials in a phone call with the Romanian government last week and then followed up by Trump’s special envoy Richard Grenell when he met the Romanian foreign minister at the Munich Security Conference, according to three people familiar with the matter.

A fourth person said a request was made to return the brothers’ passports and allow them to travel while they wait for court proceedings to conclude.

Romanian foreign minister Emil Hurezeanu declined to comment on his exchange with Grenell. His spokesperson said Hurezeanu initiated the meeting and that they had “known each other for a long time” as they had both served as ambassadors in Berlin during the first Trump presidency.
The spokesperson did not comment on their specific discussions but said: “Romanian courts are independent and operate based on the law, there is due process.”
Grenell said he had “no substantive conversation” with Hurezeanu, who “saw me in the hallway” in Munich and “asked for a meeting”. “I support the Tate brothers as evident by my publicly available tweets,” he added.

This month Grenell wrote on X that Romania was the “latest example” of how funds disbursed by the US Agency for International Development (USAID) had been “weaponised against people and politicians who weren’t woke”. The Trump administration has slashed USAID payments and attempted to fire many of its staff.

Tristan Tate has called on supporters to find out “if any USAID went to Romania to fund any particular Lawfare base investigations” — in an apparent reference to his and his brother’s own cases.

The Tate brothers have millions of online followers in the “manosphere” — online platforms targeted at young men that promote male superiority and reject feminism — which played a role in Trump’s re-election. Tucker Carlson, a Trump ally and former Fox anchor, has carried out sympathetic interviews with both brothers, calling on viewers to “make up their own mind” about them.

Tristan Tate boasted on X in November about the brothers’ role in the US election, claiming that “millions of young men in Europe and the USA have a healthy rightwing approach to politics that they would NOT have if Andrew Tate had never appeared on their phone screens”.
The UK is also seeking the brothers’ extradition after police in Bedfordshire obtained an arrest warrant as part of an investigation into allegations of rape and human trafficking. A Romanian court ruled last year that they can be extradited once there is a final decision in their case in Romania.

A separate civil lawsuit was filed last week by a woman in Florida, which alleged that the brothers coerced her into sex work after having lured her to Romania and accused them of defaming her after she testified against them in Bucharest.

The pair have recently secured a legal victory in Romania, after an appeals court sent their case back to a lower court. They were also released from house arrest, but are not allowed to leave the country.

“The Tate brothers remain fully dedicated to working alongside their legal team to explore every legal avenue available within the framework of Romania’s judicial system,” the brothers said in a written statement.
“Their sole focus is on ensuring that due process is followed and that their innocence is established in a court of law.”

US vice-president JD Vance last week lashed out at Romanian authorities for annulling a presidential election, as an example of an alleged crackdown on rightwing politicians threatening Europe’s democracy “from within”.

The country’s constitutional court in December said it took the unprecedented step because the electoral process had been “flawed” by a highly sophisticated social mediacampaign suspected of having been co-ordinated by Moscow.

Vance said the vote cancellation was based on “flimsy suspicions of an intelligence agency and enormous pressure from its continental neighbours”.
The US vice-president’s criticism was seen as vindication by the far-right candidate who topped the cancelled vote, Călin
Georgescu, who plans to run again in a May rerun. His campaign chief’s home was raided by police last week after Georgescu declared having spent zero money on his election campaign. If criminal proceedings are brought against him, the constitutional court could dismiss his bid for the presidency.

Georgescu was interviewed on Sunday by another “manosphere” influencer, Mario Nawfal, who described him on X as “Romania’s rightful president” who risked being barred from running. “The EXACT playbook they tried against Trump,” he added.

About a week before Trump launched his memecoin, someone who would probably know told me that the Tates were working with someone “huge” to launch an even bigger scam coin. I brushed it off at the time. It makes me think the Tates helped with that and now this is the return favor.

 

[Maker's Mark]

Why the fuck does Trump care about Andrew Tate?

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

According to this guy, if there's truth that Tate fans wormed their way into Trump's inner circle and are whispering into his ear to get Tate freed, all the literal blood sweat and tears spilled to get Trump and the actual Conservatives to this point will be wasted. The media will pounce like the desperate hyenas they are and we ill never hear the end of it (if they still have the money to make sure we never hear the end of it, that is).

I hope it's not true or else it will be the obama/biden years returning on crack and fentanyl mixed together.

If you think Andrew Tate, and his supposed crimes (I say supposed crimes because Romania has had two years to take him to trial) is enough to sink MAGA; when the unholy combination of fag rights, poor browns, and muh abortion didn't. Than you are delusional. Nobody is gonna care in two years time, or four years if Trump helps tate. Least of all the millions of voters who voted for him, and will objectively have better lives because of Trump's policies.

 

[Peep Plops]

Why the fuck does Trump care about Andrew Tate?

Rapists like to stick together I guess.

 

[Kiwisee]

According to this guy, if there's truth that Tate fans wormed their way into Trump's inner circle and are whispering into his ear to get Tate freed, all the literal blood sweat and tears spilled to get Trump and the actual Conservatives to this point will be wasted. The media will pounce like the desperate hyenas they are and we ill never hear the end of it (if they still have the money to make sure we never hear the end of it, that is).

It’s a double whammy considering how much the Trump supporters spent years denouncing sex trafficking, just see how much noise they still make about Jeffery Epstein.

In supporting a sex trafficking pedophile like Tate, they make themselves look like hypocrites that shouldn’t be listened to.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Call me crazy, but I read the FT article and didn't see any real sauce about this whole Trump pushing to free the tates.
Some dudes met somewhere and one of them is a moron tatebro or something.
Really doubt Romania will care.

 

[TheMotherCucker]

I just want to add this. People who take sincere dating advice from a playboy are the dumbest retards ever. The point of a relationship is a stable person to take care of who takes care of you and perhaps one day wishes to help you take care of a new person you help bring into the world. Playboys are the worst people to take advice from. At least incels fail just for themselves. Playboys fail by constantly fucking over other people. It's like taking housing advice from a squatter. Dude's go from house to house ruining everything in their wake and never have a stable spot because of it. At least a bum failed once and a hobo doesn't pretend to live there. The best person is usually your dad. I mean, he's got a track record of success. He fucked your mom and had you. Now, noy every dad has good advice. And it might be better asking someone elses if your father is a retard who failed upwards, But regardless. No matter how bad you are. Know that you cannot be as much of a failure as a playboy billionaire sex trafficking pedophiles. Because that requires you to fail at scoring a wife so bad you become the bottom bitch of some burly black guy who calls you his princess.

 

[Gingervitis]

The best person is usually your dad. I mean, he's got a track record of success. He fucked your mom and had you. Now, noy every dad has good advice. And it might be better asking someone elses if your father is a retard who failed upwards

I mean, you’d think so. But with how much the dating market has changed (think the Scott Pilgrim meme about 7 guys fighting over the same bicycle), their advice, while well meaning and at one point successful, isn’t useful nowadays. Even then, everyone knows at least two otherwise decent older men in their lives (even excluding the cheaters and domestic abusers) who got fucked over by the divorce industry, meaning it doesn’t work long term. If it did, we wouldn’t be seeing all these young men gravitate towards a low testosterone sex trafficker.

 

[TheMotherCucker]

I mean, you’d think so. But with how much the dating market has changed (think the Scott Pilgrim meme about 7 guys fighting over the same bicycle), their advice, while well meaning and at one point successful, isn’t useful nowadays. Even then, everyone knows at least two otherwise decent older men in their lives (even excluding the cheaters and domestic abusers) who got fucked over by the divorce industry, meaning it doesn’t work long term. If it did, we wouldn’t be seeing all these young men gravitate towards a low testosterone sex trafficker.

Well that's because you're all figtting over the hott bitch instead of the nerd who likes the dumb shit you do. "oooh, but she's fat." A hog can lose weight. A cunt will always be a pos. Because the phrase "behind every toxic man lies a vile cunt." Can also be reverse to, "behind every toxic woman lies a putrid dick." It's a viscious cycle but it primarily goes down to people dating not because they love someone but because they want some booty. That's not why anyone should date. If you poor your heart out to a booty call you end up causing the cycle to continue." The real deal? If you like Resident Evil, find a bitch who likes Resident Evil, if that doesn't work zombies or horror games. Expand slowly so they still align with your core interests. Don't worry about looks, worry about personality. If a bitch is fat you can get her to lose the weight. Or maybe you're fat too and you just end up being a fat couple who dies at 40 but ultimately enjoys being fat fucks. The thing you should never do is date for looks first. Never disregard looks. If your options are a 8 that likes you but not everything aligns perfectly, and a 2 that is a perfect chemistry match then the 8 might be better not just for looks, but also to balance you out and encourage you to try new things.

The only good advice Tate ever gave was "you should eat less crap and exercise more." This is never bad advice. But self improvement like "brush yo teeth, wash yo ass, put on deo, shave yo nuts..." Are all things you should be doing just because they're healthy anyway.

 

[Gingervitis]

Well that's because you're all figtting over the hott bitch instead of the nerd who likes the dumb shit you do.

Show me where the nerds are? Because I went to two different gaming conventions. All the real women I saw at the second convention (TooManyGames) were married or with friends, while the women at the first one (Long Island Retro Gaming Convention) were nonexistent. I don’t go to conventions to pick up women, mind, but you can’t pretend that they’re all over the place.

 

[TheMotherCucker]

Show me where the nerds are? Because I went to two different gaming conventions. All the real women I saw at the second convention (TooManyGames) were married or with friends, while the women at the first one (Long Island Retro Gaming Convention) were nonexistent. I don’t go to conventions to pick up women, mind, but you can’t pretend that they’re all over the place.

Conventions. As in, places you go where everyone already has established friend groups that go together. Not, a meetup on a particular fandom, or a college club of the things you like, or something adjacent that involves similar themes. You went to a convention itself. Well, there's your issue. You're narrowing too much. "but all the people are at the convention how is that narrowing?" Because nobody goes to conventions to meet people. Try a bar or a cafe. I've met tons of nerds with plenty of varying degrees of nerdiness at coffee shops. Mostly men, but a few women. Some were hott too. Wanna know why? Because people actually go there. Wanna know another gaming adjacent place? Bowling alleys, Skating rinks. You're narrrowing to just gaming and nothing else. And that's why you fail. And yes, you know what? If you really want to get a girl, go to a skating rink and do not just the arcades. but the skating too. Perhaps organize a party. Do that cha cha slide. Wobble baby wobble. Have fun. You want to get a girl right? Why are you refusing to do basic exercise? "but dancing to those songs is cringe." And so are women. And so are you for that matter. Who cares?

 

[Butterschmalz]

Being race mixed is "super cool".

 

[ShitBomber]

I might be late but Null has finally dropped the hammer.