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Should be a wild four years.

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MAGA is a short-term immediate success but what it is doing can be undone in the future if Democrats control the government once more. Barriers that have been put up can be pulled down and agencies that have been trimmed can become fat again. Unless anything drastically changes the things "Make America Great Again" advocate for as a movement require a great amount vigilance and effort to maintain.

To a point yes, but not as easy as you think. It took 75+ years of frog boiling to get this bad. If you set them back 50 years and they try to rebuild it all in a few years the "nothing to see here crazy conspiracy theorist" frog boiling strategy doesn't work and you end up with a reaction against them. The way they seized power initially was incrementally and by gaslighting everyone at each increment that nothing really changed at all and even if it did it was so minor that it doesn't really matter and you are a kook for thinking it does.

Not to mention that some things just can't be put back together again. If Trump were to leave NATO and someone come back into power in 4-8-12 years and rejoins even if they succeed the damage is done. If NATO (or any other instruments of the blob) go from being permanent fixtures of uniparty domination of American life to lurching back and forth between death and rebirth every 4-8 year political cycle then they are essentially dead even when they are "alive" in the interim. Either way it's better to make the enemy keep fighting to retake the same ground again and again and again rather than giving him the initiative to expand at his time and choice.
 
The Dutch were defective Germans that got pushed to the lowlands where they were supposed to drown, but some alien or time traveller thought it would be funny to teach them to build dams

So who is the MAGA's boogieman?

is it

1) trannys?
2) The jews
3) Niggers
4) illegals
5) Russians
6) THE DUTCH
7) Unelected bureaucrats

or is it illegal tranny jew niggers from holland?

I m gonna say its the unelected bureaucrats that tried to dom him. The weaponized Justice Department and the good old DC insiders network.

Trump smashing them by cutting off the money and exposing them does deliver a win. The people Tulsi, Kennedy and others are using his mandate to reform or kill the very agencies they are in charge of.

It would be hard for a democrat to recreate these institutions once their momentum is killed.

Just like if we tried to do covid 2 electric boogaloo no one is gonna do shit.

After the Maga's do their purge it needs to evolve into the next stage and let younger politicians provide leadership

Also I miss murdoch murdoch what would they say?
 
I want Trump to be able to run for a third term. I want him to keep running until he either dies in office e or resigns mid-term because he feels he has done enough. This would provide ample time to secure MAGA as an ongoing movement -and- allow his successor a while in office to prove themselves while also creating an incumbent advantage
Disagree. Three reasons.

1. Trump deciding to run again would be a real example of the fuck-the-constitution, dictator-for-life shit the libs have been trying to pin on him for ten years. We have the 22nd amendment for a reason.

2. It's not necessary. All this winning? That's taken a month. Four years is plenty for Donny to complete the debridement and downsizing of the federal government, and to get deportations rolling.

3. Let the man rest. In my 70s I intend to be retired, sipping martinis and clapping cheeks. He's been forced to spend his golden years saving america. The least we could do is not force him to die in office. He's setting up Vance et. al as future leaders on purpose, that means he trusts them to carry on his work.
 
I suspect the reason they are getting such big results so quickly is in the department members they are choosing to be part of their particular task force already know the ins and outs, and are already inclined to wanting to bring the fraud and waste in check but couldn't do anything until now. I imagine them as real life Ron Swansons, who finally get to be on the board for slashing the budget. For instance theres probably a database guy working at social security who's been screaming for years "hey the data has 1000 people over 200 years old. this datas fucked..." and no one wants to address it.
Early on in my old career I specialized in large data sets and can say with confidence that any database is only as good as the most retarded person entering data into it. They're all giant messes because some supervisor at some point said, "we just need this done, classify all of these as 'misc.' or leave it blank." Then you have the $8/hr data entry people who get stoned at lunch. That was what I saw in the private sector, government drones who know they'll never get punished or fired must be so much worse.
 
Yeah, it's easy to blame the Germanic barbarians, but mostly it was the Romans' endless internal intrigues, corruption & civil wars that destroyed them. Some of the most famous and capable heroes of that last age of the Western Roman Empire who could've saved it were Romano-Germanic military figures, and the people who tore them down were Senators from ancient and distinguished noble families. The Senate and 'traditional' Roman nobility didn't make a single correct choice for pretty much the WRE's entire final century, from oppressing their proto-serfs so hard that the latter weren't motivated to fight for Rome or even thought barbarian rule would be preferable, to assassinating everybody who could've patched up the sinking ship of state.

For example, Stilicho was a Romanized half-Vandal (father was a Vandal mercenary, mother was a Pannonian-Roman provincial lady) who beat the shit out of various barb invaders and was ultimately only undone by his own people leading a giant migratory wave over the frozen Rhine after defeating his Frankish allies who were supposed to stop them on the other side (they put up a good fight though, killed the Vandal king Godegisel). That was only possible because the Eastern Romans were fucking with him so hard that he was preparing to go to war with them, at one point even derailing a successful Greek campaign of Stilicho's where he had trapped the infamous Gothic warlord Alaric and was about to kill him. Now after the crossing of the Rhine and the British revolt of Constantine III, Stilicho's enemies among the Italian Senatorial aristocracy (led by a certain supreme niggerfaggot named Olympius) successfully conspired to push the Emperor Honorius (one of the most useless emperors in late Roman history) to kill him, his entire family and then the families of the Gothic auxiliaries in the Roman army, which directly led to Alaric thrashing their soft untested Italian generals and sacking Rome soon after.

Also Aetius, the guy who beat Attila on the Catalaunian Plains, was almost certainly of mixed barbarian descent. His mother was Italian and of higher birth than Stilicho's, but his father was from what's now eastern Bulgaria and SE Romania. That province of Scythia was, by the 4th-5th centuries, more of a militarized march and populated by foederati auxiliaries, mostly Goths (with some Alans and other peoples, even Huns, mixed in). Unfortunately he was murdered by the other most worthless Roman emperor of the 5th century, Valentinian III, who had been manipulated into doing the deed by the niggerfaggot Senator Petronius Maximus (who promptly killed him now that his greatest champion was dead, usurped the throne and got Rome sacked by the Vandals).

Actually, the only major figure of the WRE from its final century of existence I can think of that wasn't some sort of Roman-German hybrid, be he hero or villain, was the Emperor Majorian. Who did great things in the short time that he ruled but was tortured to death by the general Ricimer (basically a Suebic anti-Stilicho) with the connivance of, as you might guess, the niggers of the Roman Senate.
I agree that Rome destroyed itself, but the issue was happening from the lowest levels.

While the Empire was strong, it was strong during the Pax Romana off of its own momentum, and nothing else really. Civic duty was more or less dead and people enjoyed and served the empire as long as that momentum gave it a sense of security and financial wellbeing. Diocletian and Constantine basically injected a long term poison into the system by utterly alienating people from having any actual care for the empire. The middle class, already wrecked by the crises, now were plain eliminated due to the rise of proto-serfdom and abandonment of the silver coin. The entire system had become calcified and ossified and only could work due to the force of will of an emperor who had to be more tyrannical to get things done. When emperors stopped becoming even competent with Honorius onwards not even a strong emperor could keep people safe. The system became a vampiric parasite better off dead and gone than perpetuating. Why defend an empire that won't defend you?
 
So who is the MAGA's boogieman?

is it

1) trannys?
2) The jews
3) Niggers
4) illegals
5) Russians
6) THE DUTCH
7) Unelected bureaucrats

or is it illegal tranny jew niggers from holland?

I m gonna say its the unelected bureaucrats that tried to dom him. The weaponized Justice Department and the good old DC insiders network.

Trump smashing them by cutting off the money and exposing them does deliver a win. The people Tulsi, Kennedy and others are using his mandate to reform or kill the very agencies they are in charge of.

It would be hard for a democrat to recreate these institutions once their momentum is killed.

Just like if we tried to do covid 2 electric boogaloo no one is gonna do shit.

After the Maga's do their purge it needs to evolve into the next stage and let younger politicians provide leadership

Also I miss murdoch murdoch what would they say?
The unenlightened are the enemy. For MAGA to last the great reset has to be replaced with a great awakening. Everything that is happening now is less then 1% of the end plan Trump has in mind.

It will be a lot harder to censor a federated block chain based social media network spanning multiple planets and moons. It will be hard to argue all the "new" things have to go away so that we can help earth niggers.

It will be IMPOSSIBLE to move the payment systems from transparent back to obscured because with a properly awakened population that's the line in the sand tha gets your head piked.
 
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We wouldn't even get John Malkovich's character from New Pope. We'd end up with hippie George Carlin from Dogma, complete with Buddy Christ as the "acceptable face of 21st Century Catholicism" if we ever got an American Pope in this day and age.
 
I remember the danes managed to save all their Jews, so unless there's evidence otherwise I don't think they were too submissive.
Alright you have done somthing here, you have a half truth mixed with a oversimplifaction that more or less misses my point yet sadly puts me in a position of making me seem like a nazi defender of some kind

First of all

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This is from the wikipedia article on the danish ww2 occupation and while it may be a simple source I think It puts it rather succinctly.

Next

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3k deaths over 5 years vs 2k volunteers into the godamn SS

In 40 when they took over they population and king made it to difficult for the germans to weed out their jews but by 43 their control was so complete I doubt many were able to hide, once again not defending any part of the nazi shit, just explaning how in practice the way the 5 years of the war played out were rarely defined by single story's but the numbers we can count at the end.


Also just to finish, the proof of their noble and heroic stand against facism

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not even 2 dozen men bought the farm and the government was seeking to lube up and find the most comfortable barrel


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Thats how many the french lost in 6 weeks and the world remembers them as cowardly surrendering collaborators, obviously population sizes are different but come on.

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Shit just look at Norway, whose response to the German Ultimatum was the most badass shit I have ever heard

"The resistance is already underway"


Its not simply my opinion that they were collaborators at worst and submissive and servile at best, its backed up by historical data
 
I mean, he is pretty corrupt. They have him dead-to-rights on the Turkey thing. The Feds have like a 98% conviction rate so it's a safe bet they didn't indict the Mayor of NYC without having a slam dunk case.
He's a negro politician. Why do you think the only black President was born of an upper-caste Kenyan? American negro politicians are all bizarrely corrupt and stupid.
 
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