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Should be a wild four years.

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Buck Broken Chimp said:
3: Be honest why do you hate European countries so much ? The majority of Americans are European and even if you are not as an American Europe is your spiritual motherland. If you want to be able to keep up with China at a time when China is making inroads with other countries for deals you can't alienate your base, if you want to support Israel (I don't know why you would but the majority of Trump voters do) then you shouldn't alienate Europe t a time when more and more are getting stick of Israel and recognizing Palestinian state hood.
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A lot of people (especially Europeans) seem to be unable to distinguish the character of a country from the character of it's ruling elite. When America (the regime) does something, Europeans will attribute the actions taken by the Trump admin, Biden admin, Obama admin, etc. to America (the nation state). I don't give a fuck about Israel or Palestine or the entirety of the Middle East, but Euros wouldn't assume that. To them, I'm an American, so that means I must give a shit about the foreskin eating desert people.

I like Europe a lot. I do not, however, love the EU or the regimes that currently govern nearly every EU country. They are totalitarian, they are anti-native, they are just as obsessed with pushing globohomo as the American neolibs and are somehow even more obsessed with waging hot wars on the dime of the US than the fucking American neocons. These gay ass regimes need to fall on their own sword enough until they can't get back up or be ousted by the angry natives.
 
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You can tell who has a "conservative brain" when the idea of giving all US citizens $5000 in response to finding government fraud is "No! Don't give the money! Some people don't deserve it!"

"Good things must only happen to people who have earned it. Wageslaves deserve rewards. If you didn't send the IRS money you shouldn't get any back."

No thought of strategy or tactics. First thought... spite.

Every US citizen has been a victim of USAID propaganda; fentanyl flooding the country; illegals taking jobs and driving wages down; Biden-era inflation; housing bubble; ect, etc.


With student loans, if conservatives were smart they would use forgiveness strategically. Give loan forgiveness, but take the money from universities. You could for example tie alumni employment rates to the universities ability to receive government grants and loans. You could seize endowment funds under the premise that the university fraudulently mislead youth with unrealistic job prospects.

An additional option is to expand the Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) program. Allow jobs "important to US national interests" to qualify for it. Fuck it, just automatically enroll all federal college loans in an Income Based Repayment program that caps payments at 10% of income and forgives the loan after 10 years of full employment. If the person got a dumb overpriced degree and worked as a janitor, then punish the university for the forgiveness amount.


Edit: P.S. I reread my post. Clarification: I did not intend to hate on "conservative brain" people. Spite and enforced meritocracy have their place in society (I understand welfare leeches are very real).
 
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Smashed & Slamed said:
How does the US burning more money on Ukraine benefit the US?
There is no amount of money you can spend that can make Ukraine win this war. Russia simply has more men than Ukraine. Russia has a pop of 140 million, Ukraine has 40 million. Ukraine needs a 3.5 to 1 K/D and haven't achieve that except at the very start of the war and hasn't been repeated since.
There is no further benefit from weakening Russia as Russia is still too weak to threaten NATO states. And should Russia get too weak it may lead to China taking over parts of Russia or a balkanization of a nuclear power.
Keeping the war going achieves nothing more than wasting money for the US and getting Ukrainians and Russians killed. The only people who benefit from the war sustaining is weapons manufacturers and maybe China.
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Russian and American cooperation is mutually beneficial. Russia is now facing regional competition from Turkey. They lost important allies in the Middle East and now have to guard their border. Iran no longer has the flex it used to have in Syria, Gaza, and Lebanon.

Russia needs this peace to regroup and reorganize. Working with US for rapid oil production and trade normalization. One, bring the oil price down to 40-50$ a barrel. It will immediately drop all inflation. Two, immediate investments and technical specialists back into the country for both countries & most importantly, REMOVE Chinese encroachment into Russian economy.

You are most likely going to see ALOT of American automotive export into Russia now. GM, Ford and maybe even Stellantis may gain enormous market share in Russia.

And thank God, because Chinese cars are so dog shit. China will lose their economic monopoly in Russia completely.
 
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marvlouslie said:
I know there's a lot of talk about wanting to ban junk food and soda from being able to be purchased on EBT. The problem with regulating what the peasant class can and can't do is that when does it stop? First they'll say you can't buy shit with EBT. Then they'll start regulating what you can and can't use Social Security funds for.

Look. I get the idea of wanting to make food and other shit healthy again, but shotgunning and going all militant about it is a good way to get the people (who were initially on your side) pissed off all over again. In the end, no one will do shit. You need to give people a choice. You can give them the information, it's up to them exercising their own free will over it. You can't just force someone into a new way of living and expect it to go well. See what happened with Prohibition?
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That is a pretty good point actually. On the other hand however I see the issue being that this sector specifically is also very strongly lobbied so they might try to go on the offensive early to be able to resolve it at the end of this term. Maybe even speculating and banking on the fact that the needle will effectively not be moved until after the midterms. Then again I am not well versed in how much time such an operation would take.
 
Tim the Tranny said:
Hi, I would love $5000 but this is a bad idea. We should be aiming to reduce the national debt so that we can, in the long term, sustain our country without a mountain of interest staring us in the face, while also lowering individual taxes.
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We are never getting out of debt. The numbers don't work. Trump's doing good tweaks, but we are never getting long-term federal spending under control, without cutting entitlements, defaulting on interest payments, or otherwise disrupting the economy.

Americans should be snatching back every dollar they can from the federal government, because you need it more than they do. It is literally impossible for the federal government to spend $5000 in a way that benefits you more than you would benefit by spending it yourself. Maybe in the past it could spend $5000 to collectively make everybody better off, but it is past that point now.

If you actually care about the long term, take the money and hunker down.
 
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BTS4Lyfe said:
That is a pretty good point actually. On the other hand however I see the issue being that this sector specifically is also very strongly lobbied so they might try to go on the offensive early to be able to resolve it at the end of this term. Maybe even speculating and banking on the fact that the needle will effectively not be moved until after the midterms. Then again I am not well versed in how much time such an operation would take.
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In the end, it'll be all talk, and nothing will go anywhere. Too many retards in congress will try and block any kind of progress from something like that happening. The wheels of government are only greased for corruption and graft. Nothing will change, and we'll just be sitting here arguing about the same bullshit until the end of time.
 
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Buck Broken Chimp said:
2: How does America giving up on Ukraine benefit America ? ?Ukraine talked about a 500 billion dollar mineral deal meanwhile giving up would on America nothing and make all the previous money spent a waste.
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A better question to ask would be why is America dedicated on defending Ukraine against Russia? Short answer: Ukraine is laundering money for "American" interests, among others through corruption. Easy answer, there's no need for taxpayer money to go through being the world police when we have issues in our host country.

Buck Broken Chimp said:
3: Be honest why do you hate European countries so much ? The majority of Americans are European and even if you are not as an American Europe is your spiritual motherland.
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You just answered your own question. Generally speaking, Americans don't like European xenophobia when your continent is known to have nanny state countries against their citizens but allow mass migration at your citizens' expense.

Buck Broken Chimp said:
1: You say that Elon's comment about giving every American 5000 dollars would not cause inflation and would not be a big deal,
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The money would be put back to improve our economy, not just handed back as welfare or as a grift.

Oh, and:

Buck Broken Chimp said:
Ok I got to call out the populist Trump types here and ask some questions.
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I'm not a populist. I'm me. I just wanted to answer your long winded question.
 
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