US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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Members of the Trump Administration
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Burnt Effigy said:
There's no way to make it a middle ground, unfortunately.

If you allow some arbitrary nutrient criteria for EBT, then the only thing that's gonna change is that the manufacturers are going to either shift existing formulas, create a variant of that formula to fit EBT, or lobby as hard as satan himself to make the cutoff so pathetic that it's effectively useless.

Read up on literally every single food rating system in the world, like Australia's star system or the EU's nutri-score, it's gamed to fuck, and makes zero sense.

If you add a tax specifically for EBT on junk food, you both have the same issue as above (although you can just say NOVA 4), then you're actually exposing yourself for discrimination, as it would be seen as a tax specifically discriminating against the poor.

A straight up cutoff at NOVA 3 and saying that EBT are only eligible for NOVA 3 or better, you can't pin it as a tax on the poor, it's an incentive for them to buy healthy food. Much easier to defend in court.

And sure, they won't be able to buy "Healthy UPF" like Whey powder or protein bars or vegan bullshit or whatever, but these things are supposed to be supplements in the first place, so they can still invest in them with their meager salary.
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Remember what got Gibson guitars raided?

We have an import system where instead of just buying raw mahogany wood from South Pacific island nations, we have to wait for them to perform some value-added processes before we buy it.

So instead of just getting a shipment of mahogany slats, they have to be like, cut into the rough shape of a Les Paul body.

What we should do is the opposite. EBT/food stamps should be good for eggs, milk, whole vegetables not including clamshells of cut up lettuce, potatoes instead of frozen fries, etc
 
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UnidentifiedFlyingOrchid said:
The welfare system in the US is retarded, like many of the systems in the US government.

"Welfare Cliffs" are some of the most obvious retardation. Example:
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Earning more money from a wage shouldn't result in having less money.

After DOGE is done auditing, there should be work done optimizing the incentive structures of government programs. The Democrats shouldn't be allowed to amass an army of welfare slaves. But, corporations shouldn't control people's lives either.
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The welfare state is utterly fucked and it's uniquely fucked that people who don't exploit it are "punished" with harsher rules and less and the ones that do are rewarded. It's also a bit of a cramped cricket cage too from dealing with people stuck in the welfare trench in past professions. Your max allowed savings and assets both counted in your household and in the bank at any given time without jumping through lock out hoops is typically 2K and hasn't budged since the 80s or been adjusted at all. It counts stocks and stakes in this total as well. And a lot of physical assets that aren't just time waste luxuries.

You can use a special savings account but it is penalized harder and they can randomly decide none of that money is yours anymore.

So you can't even save properly for out of pocket costs for things your mediocre state by state basis medicaid/medicare coverage doesn't cover like vision and dental. You can't slow burn save for a big move or to buy a cheap house, or to invest it in anything that requires longer term thinking. It does a lot to discourage long term thinking even.

It also counts things that seem absolutely like the edge cases the libs like to call ghoulishly hateful towards poor people, like winning wrongful death suits and malpractice suits and family inheritance against that asset limit with no exemptions. Earned income also counts against the asset limit.

And the term "Spend it down" is repeated in all of the guides and legal advice even for resolving the previous edge cases. And if you're not a shaniqua with 5 kids on retainer EBT calculations count each unearned income dollar against you harder than any other dollar. So someone with zero kids with a fucked apart stack of vertebrae in the system who is an honest injun with their reporting at the current calculations would not qualify for food bucks at all at the current calculation rate of cost of living adjustments by around 2030-2033.


TL;DR: To no one's surprise, the current welfare/SSI/SSDI system encourages you to be a wasteful spend crazy retard who only thinks of the current month at latest. And there's too many carrots for not working and avoiding thinking like a productive person, and too many sticks ready to beat you for working and long term planning if you're able.

There's also zero incentive to report the previously mentioned rule breakers who are often right next door to these people in the low income housing too, since it's viewed as just attracting unwanted attention across the board.
 
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MetokurGroomedMe said:
hmm, i don't know, take the deferred layoff with pay and find a new fucking job?
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Friendly reminder OPM is the HR entity, and does not guarantee the terms they initially pitched in the initial emails. The money and voluntary leaving aspect has to be approved by your organization. The email stated to reply "resignation" and then email your chain of command about your intent. OPM gets a roster of jobs people don't seem to care about, and your organization can tell you to get back to work until OPM removes your job or RIFs you at no cost for OPM or your agency.

Not that I care about the tranny, but other workers are just getting fucked with no lube, so it isn't as cut an dry as you make it.
 
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FatalTater said:
I don't think anyone should have kids after age 35 because of personal experience being the kid of older parents.
It sucked seeing other parents doing things with their kids that my parents were too tired and/or apathetic to bother with. Having to explain that yes, those were my parents and not my grandma and grandpa was unpleasant too.
We don't need to go into dealing with the health problems of the elderly and what it does to their kids.

Don't have kids if you're old. Just admire your friends' pictures of their grandkids and call it a day.
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FOMO and mild social inconvenience for the kid shouldn't stop people from engaging in one of the greatest purposes their lives.
 
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StudMccool said:
News was saying the protections on mountian islands are so strong they would possibly let an interfering human die before they would shoot the lion

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Its safe, knocked out, wrapped up in a poncho in the back of a ford ranger.
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Anyone who would let a person be killed by a mountain lion should meet the same fate.

Our relationship with large carnivores should be one of respect, but distance. We spent a million years becoming the top of the food chain, and only then did we start bettering the world around us.

Its the reason I have disdain for shitholes like India where people are routinely killed by predators. Really, you put a rocket on the fucking moon before you figure our how to sequester big animals away from populations? Europe did it by accident. Talk about putting the cart before the horse.

No, not in my country. If an animal presents a danger to a human in their own home, it needs to be eliminated dispassionately. I don't have to demonize it as a monster to know its nature is a threat.
 
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StudMccool said:
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I really really really love that these clowns continue to pontificate and lie for like 30 to 40 mins AT A TIME

WHO ON EARTH DO THEY THINK IS WATCHING THIS?

Ill tell you exactly how many, I searched for senate live, sometimes CSPAN will show it to, but only this fox channel is showing the broadcast.

Within that broadcast there are only 2.7 thousand weirdos like me actively making fun of them.

Id wager less than 1,000 left leaning people will EVER hear these comments or see these expensive taxpayer funded PowerPoint slides that needed to be printed out for some reason.

They arent being disseminated into tik toks, they arent being pumped artificially by bloggers and small creators, hell even their media apparatus is far to high strung to care about senator stump speeches.

its like a dream watching the dems try to resort to bush era politics while their base just sits around waiting for someone else to fix the problem, its better than I could have written it.

But keep going Mr, Murphy, one more poster will change 70% of Americas mind, you are almost there.
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Ngl he makes a convincing case
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StudMccool said:
I really really really love that these clowns continue to pontificate and lie for like 30 to 40 mins AT A TIME

WHO ON EARTH DO THEY THINK IS WATCHING THIS?

Ill tell you exactly how many, I searched for senate live, sometimes CSPAN will show it to, but only this fox channel is showing the broadcast.

Within that broadcast there are only 2.7 thousand weirdos like me actively making fun of them.

Id wager less than 1,000 left leaning people will EVER hear these comments or see these expensive taxpayer funded PowerPoint slides that needed to be printed out for some reason.
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The thirty hours after "cloture" is a sort of middle ground from the old way to what we do now. Here's the reasoning why
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No one cares what is said, or who says it, it's just a common ground they came too.
 
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Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and “TRUMP,” will never be able to settle. The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe, and Europe’s money is guaranteed, while the United States will get nothing back. Why didn’t Sleepy Joe Biden demand Equalization, in that this War is far more important to Europe than it is to us — We have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation. On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is “MISSING.” He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden “like a fiddle.” A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only “TRUMP,” and the Trump Administration, can do. Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring Peace, and Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the “gravy train” going. I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died – And so it continues…..
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Edit: Oh shit! I hope I evaded the thumbnail police.
 
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Ive been thinking about the DoD thing on my drive home and I can't believe it but I can feel some hope in my heart again. I'm mostly a moderate, I lean right or left depending on what my heart tells me (call that whatever: the holy spirit, the conscience, whatever) but this is not a partisan issue. Defunding the DoD is acknowledging and attacking the *class* divide, which is something that affects all of us no matter our background. If Trump and Elon continue proving my pessimism wrong and actually listen to their hearts and not their wallets in the long run, this might be it.

Older Gen Z like myself might actually have a future in America to look forward to.
 
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Tim the Tranny said:
Hi, I would love $5000 but this is a bad idea. We should be aiming to reduce the national debt so that we can, in the long term, sustain our country without a mountain of interest staring us in the face, while also lowering individual taxes.

Blowing billions on a “we’re sorry” isn’t the way to do it. Put it into infrastructure, the economy, etc. and let the $5000 end up in my pocket over the long term.
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I respect the sentiment, but I have to disagree with this. There have already been gargantuan budget cuts under Trump as it is that sending these checks won't be as devastating as the democrats want to fearmonger about. The American people have been cheated BIG TIME. If Trump were to just say "aw shucks, you dumb fucks got cheated out of trillions of your hard earned dollars and you get NOTHING in return for it, I guess your gonna have to get back to work to make more money, retard. Better hope no one steals that money as well you dumb fucks!! USA USA USA!!!" that would be a gigantic blow to US morale if you ask me. Getting $5000 doesn't make up for all the money we've had stolen from us by our own government but it is a nice gesture to alleviate the blow while helping us all get on track to move forward and regain trust with our government. It's the fucking least the administration could do as a "sorry that you were lied to (and are still being lied to) about what has happened to your money, here's this check as a token of our desire to regain your trust." Your argument that we will all have $5000 in our pockets in time if we don't get the checks works the same way in that the government will make the money back in no time thanks to the massive cuts in spending Trump has implemented.
 
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