Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Fapcop]

Even Elon is getting in on firing the zingers:



In 1807, Napoleon and the Russian Tsar Alexander met in Tilsit to negotiate a peace. The Prussian king, the junior partner in the coalition with Russia, was present but not invited.

Instead, King Frederick William III of Prussia was left to ride his horse up and down the riverbank, anxiously waiting for the outcome of the discussions.

Only at the second meeting between the two, two days later, was he invited on to the raft where the leaders met, as an afterthought.

As they say: History rarely repeats itself, but it often rhymes.

 

[Kiska]

Every battle, every movement is monitored in real time....only winning move is small scale movements or else artillery hits your face immediately....

I think of it more as complete heavy equipment denial, the pace Ruskis have been able to capture Ukranian land is on par with the speed an infantry force could reasonably push in each front they're pursuing with heavy fight back, while a lot of the heavy equipment (tanks,aircraft) that facilitiated much quicker invasions have a lot of the time been denied by sophisticated and affordable drones/air defense systems. When russia initially paraded in 2022 with full heavy equipment capability, they were able to move across the entire country with relative ease before they scaled down significantly/started getting heavy equipment denial.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Lol Lord Imperators novel page rants are gold. That guy is content king.

"You'll all be sorry one of these days you dang dirty DRUMPF voters! How dare you want no war!"

He legitimately does come off as autistic. When he's right, he's very right. When he's wrong, he's very wrong. On this issue, he's just plain wrong.

 

[White_N]

There is no need for American assistance.
The Estonian juggernaut has pledged full support.

On one side of the ring we have a country single-handedly making up half of all of NATO and on the other side of the ring we have the Eurocrat-creators of NAFO.
How dare people not take the latter seriously?

 

[Cuckoman]

He legitimately does come off as autistic. When he's right, he's very right. When he's wrong, he's very wrong. On this issue, he's just plain wrong.

I feel a a bit sorry about Ghostse. I like that guy. Most of the time he has really level-headed opinions. Also in this total shit-fest I still like his takes.
But Vader and the completely lunatic TDS Cat guy are really ganging up and shitting on him.

He should come over here and we can talk about trains, shitpost eachother and have fun.
What a lot of people has forgotten about is that we are here to have fun and have a laugh at autists. We are not here to wage some retarded internet tough guy war.
There is a fucking million sites you can use if you want to be top retard in some retard argument. Please do not make kiwifarms like those.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

He legitimately does come off as autistic. When he's right, he's very right. When he's wrong, he's very wrong. On this issue, he's just plain wrong.

he makes novel-length posts about Star Wars lore, of course he's autistic

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

he makes novel-length posts about Star Wars lore, of course he's autistic

Yes, but I don't mean it as an insult.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

Yes, but I don't mean it as an insult.

as am I. just stating facts
to deviate this post from back and forth, here's some news from Russian sources:

• Army group Vostok(East) in DNR went on offensive and captured some defensive positions of VSU. some of them even lived and surrendered(TASS)
• in report of RuAF, in 2024 was liberated 4500 square kilometeres of territories. In DNR, Zaporozhskaya and Khersonskaya oblasts RuAF controls 75%, while in Lugansk it's about 99%(RIA Novosti)
• total losses of Kursk incursion by VSU are above 62000 of soldiers. 371 tanks, 277 BMP, 228 s, 1 937 ATVs , 2 088 cars, 456 artillery pieces, 49 MLRS зincluding 13 HIMARS и 6 MLRS made by USA(TASS)
• VSU shelled DNR once again. one civilian is dead(RIA Novosti)

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

Just a reminder to any MAGA people who still think Ukraine was on your side, this is how they have always thought of you.

Must be a Vietnam-era M16.

 

[Procopius]

A bit more drone footage just to show how precise the fiber optic ones are and how good the pilots are. They're even slaloming around whatever gaps are left in the cope cages. Plus the snow gives it a bizarre Christmasey feel.

Some figures on how Russian weapons have improved



Meanwhile the Ukrainians are finding it harder and harder to locate a target that isn't defended. To the extent that they're even attacking Kazakhstan, for reasons best known to themselves.

How are the Russians fighting back? They're sneakily not even using weapons.

And in the ultimate humiliation for Europe

Back in the days when bribes were suitcases full of cash, it was all untraceable. Now you can send billions around the globe with the click of a mouse, but Big Brother knows everything. Although I'm not sure what Western Media would actually publish them. Not when they're still full of shit like "North Korean human wave assaults" and "Russian is nearly out of weapons. Again. But trust us this time.".

 

[Radola Gajda]

What's the purpose of this propaganda? Why would I ever feel sorry for someone who volunteered to go fight in a war for a country they don't even live in? Best case scenario, you're a serial killer who wanted a nice legal outlet. Worst case, you're a fool.
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There is certain pattern of "Russian" warcrimes against civilian population.
As tard pointed out it always happens in places with Russian/Russian sympathetic population. And either OUN larpers or Hoholreich glowies are present in area.
Mariupol was Azovite Wewelsburg .
Volchansk . First we get news of Ukrops seething because civilian population are not enthusiastic enough in the support of Ukrainian Army and some of them even helped Russkies. Few days later both glowies and OUN wannabes arrive and day after that "Russians " start massacring civilians.
And of course Kursk.
Just couple of examples I could remember right now.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Ukraine started the war:

"What is the maidan revolution, and the bombing and terrorizing of the people in eastern ukraine, Alex."

It really blows my mind the people on the side of Ukraine are on the same side as McCain(when he wasn't burning in hell) McConnell, Graham, Bolton, Schumer, Pelosi, Nuland, and Biden. The whose who of globalist slimeballs actively fucking our country over and driving it in the toilet for decades. I was searching Reddit for some salt and came across a post saying we can't have elections in Ukraine because the winner might be a US puppet, without any irony or self awareness that Zelensky is our puppet.

 

[01169]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14415167/saudi-arabia-ukraine-peace-talks-blocked.html

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4RhAT

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Allah BTFO! We will use your marble rooms and mahagony tables but don't act like this is more than a photo op for you. But I get it. With the football world cup on the horizon they want to appear open to all sides.

Also hilarious how the top spergers in the other thread think the EU of all things would be able to prop up Ukraine on its own. That's the silliest cope yet.

 

[Kane Lives]

Also hilarious how the top spergers in the other thread think the EU of all things would be able to prop up Ukraine on its own. That's the silliest cope yet.

I legitimately want to see the EU try. The ultimate "shit or get off the pot" moment.

 

[Cuckoman]

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Ouch.

Ok, now Trumps completely mad-lad burn-all-bridges and take-no-prisoners tweet to Z starts to make sense.
The tweet was to tenderize him before "we have all the info, do what we say or we publish it and then crazy time will start. Who knows what the fallout will be or what will happen. Especially if you caused all your oligarch friends corruption to be published and we claw back the money they stole. Crazy times. Crazy."

Z-man's own corruption is one thing, but if this contains hard info about the other oligarches in ukraine? Z-man better ask for asylum in the US very quickly and witness proitection program. In that case, Trump or Putin is the least of his worries.

Shit is going down. Probability of civil war to gain power if peace with Russia is reached just increased, by quite a lot.

 

[Gondolindrim]

There is certain pattern of "Russian" warcrimes against civilian population.
As tard pointed out it always happens in places with Russian/Russian sympathetic population. And either OUN larpers or Hoholreich glowies are present in area.
Mariupol was Azovite Wewelsburg .
Volchansk . First we get news of Ukrops seething because civilian population are not enthusiastic enough in the support of Ukrainian Army and some of them even helped Russkies. Few days later both glowies and OUN wannabes arrive and day after that "Russians " start massacring civilians.
And of course Kursk.
Just couple of examples I could remember right now.

I genuinely despise Ukraine because of this. They massacre their own citizenry, use it as atrocity propaganda to keep the war going, and they're so sloppy about it. Bucha was the first of many, and even then it was very obvious that the Ukies killed all those people after the Russians had left. As if being a Nazi state isn't bad enough, they have to lie to our faces and send NAFO bots after you if you ask too many questions.

For me, it's never been about the Russians winning. It's about these animals losing. Killing innocent people and then trying to blame the other guy with blood still on your hands is just...eugh.

 

[The giant penis of doom]

I understand that Trump can't just come out and say it, because optics and whatnot, but it still stings a little that he shrugs the whole thing off as Z-man bad. Sure, he is bad, but he did the bidding of YOUR government. At least Vance took some blame in his speech, admitting that the US was not championing free speech as well as it should have before BTFOing the eutards.
And his claim about Europe getting back their money because technically it was a loan: lmao. He knows it is ridiculous, and the EU has very little leverage to get anything out of Ukraine. With the financial system based on the USD, Europe is fucked, no matter what.

I will say to them it turned out the North Korean gooner squads made all the difference and South Korea stands no chance.

Do not worry, I did careful research (I've read several manhwas), and I can tell you that the SK guys are pretty good at gooning too.

Then again, it was utterly absurd to think Trump would be willing to go full warmonger over Ukraine when his only interests were in the US and (((them))), so I don't really know what some of these people expected.

It's not hard to imagine that the moneybag kikes have some interest in the war continuing. It could have gone either way really easily, Trump is America Second at most.

 

[YautjaWeeb]

I think of it more as complete heavy equipment denial, the pace Ruskis have been able to capture Ukranian land is on par with the speed an infantry force could reasonably push in each front they're pursuing with heavy fight back, while a lot of the heavy equipment (tanks,aircraft) that facilitiated much quicker invasions have a lot of the time been denied by sophisticated and affordable drones/air defense systems. When russia initially paraded in 2022 with full heavy equipment capability, they were able to move across the entire country with relative ease before they scaled down significantly/started getting heavy equipment denial.

After all that money into the MIC not a single person in the pentagon through the cold war and after ever anticipated RPG & anti-tank Slavs on 'golf carts', and bikes etc. Humanity is one step closer to making NOD happen.

Do not worry, I did careful research (I've read several manhwas), and I can tell you that the SK guys are pretty good at gooning too.

SK are leaders in online addictions but perpetually burned out by it. NK will not have the hypofrontality issue from a life of coom, enstead they fight for it. Not even joking could see a flashpoint in NK/SK or Trump will make them make peace as a feather in his cap. If situation in Ukraine is ending (hopefully) Kim Jong-Un will become the belle of the ball. China, Russia and Trump will all try to court him and he's just a fat kid sitting there waiting. 'Nuclear Power Trio' was a joke band but now maybe it's prescient.

 

[Easterling]

I've noticed an uptick in historically illiterate retards screeching "muh Munich agreement 1938" every chance they get lately not realising the two are not even remotely comparable. A better comparison is Vietnam but since everyone is obsessed with comparing Vlad to an Austrian painter they just cant help themselves. Trump right now is much like Nixon, he is cleaning up an A grade mess left by the previous admin. The Snivelling coke head in Ukraine is quite lucky the united states has given them enough money to fund 3800 contra insurgencies or at least a third of what they spent on the Vietnam war (estimated to be roughly 1 Trillion dollars including inflation). These are the numbers people should be bringing up, if you cant fix a problem with 380 billion you never will, Christ they couldn't fix the issue with 1 trillion against rice farmers or the 2.2 trillion against goat herders in Afghanistan.

Edit, just for comparison, from what i've read online its estimated that Russia has spent 200 Billion on the war, bearing in mind its not receiving aid to artificially prop the country or its economy and civil service up unlike Ukraine. So bear in mind that the Russians have nearly achieved the territorial claims in the Oblasts with less than the Ukrainians have to defend them. I'll mention something that rarely gets mentioned and something I hope future historians will talk about in this war. The importance of logistics, part of why the Russians have maintained their momentum is because they understand and manufacture the equipment they use. If a Tank or weapon system gets knocked out but they are able to reclaim it, which they often are since they are often of the advance, they will have spare parts to repair and reservice it. On the flipside Ukraine more often than not has to cannibalize its equipment to repair it and are much less able to retrieve and repair tanks and IFV's when they do get knocked out.

 

[TexWiller]

I would be curious to see what the europeans would do if Trump decides to unfreeze the russian reservers that were seized after the start of the SMO