Western Animation - Discuss American, Canadian, and European cartoons here (or just bitch about wokeshit, I guess)

[NoCockatrice]

Speaking of, has anyone else noticed how many pieces of entertainment nowadays seem to have completely whack saturation values? Like I'm not talking just animation but videogames and film to an extent too.
I cant be the only one who's noticed this, it feels like everyone collectively forgot how to color grade. It's so weird.

Anime did this (seriously, the backgrounds in all of the anime titles since about 2010 are saturated as fuck; actually, you can notice this trend in even earlier works, like Pokemon or other kid shows). Now everyone does this, because anime is popular.

Also, kind of unrelated, but I hate it when they try to make a show "anime, but not enough". "Kids like anime these days, but we don't know how to get the proportions right, so we're gonna make an eclectic half-baked slop". There are show that do "half-anime" right, like Avatar, Wakfu, W.I.T.C.H. (mainly French shows, they're really good at it for some reason), but man, the other ones just look like High Guardian Spice.

Just make either anime or a western cartoon, dear god.

 

[Colon capital V]

mainly French shows, they're really good at it for some reason

The country that's well known for having fine arts and sexual deviants can replicate works from a country that's well known for fine arts and sexual deviants? No way!

 

[Kari Kamiya]

(mainly French shows, they're really good at it for some reason)

They embraced anime way better than America did, that's why.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Yeah, the "french" embrace a lot of things more than America.

 

[Ensok]

Speaking of France I kind of miss Code Lyoko, that was a fun show, nice theme song too.

 

[Super Malario]

Speaking of France I kind of miss Code Lyoko, that was a fun show, nice theme song too.

Code Lyoko was the shit, it had an interesting premise and a very unique art style, even if the characters had 5heads.

 

[Ensok]

Code Lyoko was the shit, it had an interesting premise and a very unique art style, even if the characters had 5heads.

Yeah, and by the time it was made 3D animation had improved by a bit so it looked better than stuff like Reboot and Max Steel. Shit, I miss both of those too.

 

[A Grey Cat]

None other than Alex Hirsch leaked imagery from his cancelled Netflix project, and it amazes me still how many "guide sheets" for modern American cartoons are "draw as bland as possible!" "We can put a little effort in sometimes...as a treat."

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Well at least the hack is honest for once.


(By which I mean he litteraly says fuck you to the audience with that scoreboard)

 

[KissMyTaint]

Ah yes, Cartoon Network, make yet another nigger-centric cartoon right as the general populace is experiencing nigger fatigue. And you wonder why you're dying.

The place I used to work had copies of the comic this show is based on

EDIT: This is the comic the show is based on
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[Kari Kamiya]

The place I used to work had copies of the comic this show is based on

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The comic has much better art, it has to chap the creator's ass to see such a downgrade. That's an absolute shame.

 

[Kabobs]

The place I used to work had copies of the comic this show is based on

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I wonder why the animated show had to go for a more anime-influenced style. Because anime attracts the kiddies nowadays?

 

[Trollblade69]

I wonder why the animated show had to go for a more anime-influenced style. Because anime attracts the kiddies nowadays?

BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER!!!!

Really, we've been discussing Invincible's crappy-ass production for the last few weeks, so I have no idea how you can't internalize this.

 

[The_Gam3]

The place I used to work had copies of the comic this show is based on

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The art isn't bad but it feels reeeaaaaallly flat i guess?

 

[ShiftyBoi]

Code Lyoko was the shit, it had an interesting premise and a very unique art style, even if the characters had 5heads.

It makes me sad Code Lyoko is pretty much forgotten nowadays.
I mean come ooon it had mixed media animation, fun likable characters, a really really fun formula with the time travel, the status quo never stayed the same, and a fuckin banger theme song.

It also reminds me of the brief period in time when Cartoon Network and Toonami both put a lot of shows up online for free.

 

[NSJAP]

 

[Chilson]

I wonder why the animated show had to go for a more anime-influenced style. Because anime attracts the kiddies nowadays?

BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER!!!!

Really, we've been discussing Invincible's crappy-ass production for the last few weeks, so I have no idea how you can't internalize this.

It literally is just because its cheaper. "Anime style" is just code for less frames of animation, slant-eye slave labor, and being off model half the time.

 

[Magic Sun Daddy]

Oh for the love of god, not this shit again.
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Is it now a requirement that every superhero cartoon needs to have a character be like “Why didn’t you tell me you were so-and-so-man, you selfish prick??”

On the top of my head, the only subversion of this trope I can think of was Danny Phantom. His sister finds out that he's a superhero and chooses to help keep it a secret from their parents. She doesn't feel betrayed or entitled to know, she outright says "I won't force it out of him. He'll tell me when he feels comfortable." Of all the shows to have that kind of grounded perspective, it was a Butch Hartman cartoon.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

On the top of my head, the only subversion of this trope I can think of was Danny Phantom. His sister finds out that he's a superhero and chooses to help keep it a secret from their parents. She doesn't feel betrayed or entitled to know, she outright says "I won't force it out of him. He'll tell me when he feels comfortable." Of all the shows to have that kind of grounded perspective, it was a Butch Hartman cartoon.

Jazz is a good character.
Probably the only family which keep the secret safe between their both parents somewhat schizophrenic about ghosts.

 

[The Nothingness]

On the top of my head, the only subversion of this trope I can think of was Danny Phantom. His sister finds out that he's a superhero and chooses to help keep it a secret from their parents. She doesn't feel betrayed or entitled to know, she outright says "I won't force it out of him. He'll tell me when he feels comfortable." Of all the shows to have that kind of grounded perspective, it was a Butch Hartman cartoon.

Jazz is a good character.
Probably the only family which keep the secret safe between their both parents somewhat schizophrenic about ghosts.

I seem to recall Jazz was a bit upset at Danny not telling her Vlad Masters was his archenemy and he had a crush on their mom.

Speaking of that show, what are your thoughts on Sam? I recently saw this recommended video that made no bones about the poster's opinion.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Speaking of that show, what are your thoughts on Sam?

Somewhat interesting, but i prefer how Tucker was more a threat when non-controlled (like when took the magic lamp).
I don't remember much, but Desire (the ghost genie) became a side character after Danny traps her?