General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Lolcows usually have more crippling lacks of self awareness and a propensity to do actually laughable shit.
Sinder is just a vapid e-whore who hit it big within the twitch coomer niche
I don't know if Sinder has awareness at all since some of her fans more or less noticed her fansly content isn't anything special. A cow tends to prevent people from giving him/her any criticism, which Sinder just did on Fansly.

and you sound kinda MATI.
This is why nobody respects most vtumors and their fanbase. Any criticism aimed at their oshi = durp durp u mad at internet lulz
 
Nobody here watches or at least posts about this bitch, this is cope. She appeals to zoomers.
It doesn't matter whether or not you fags admit that you watch someone like Sinder. It can be any vtumor, and the minute they get the slightest ounce of criticism, their fanbase gets upset. Just look at the Pippa thread. I've come to terms that mentioning any vtuber in a negative light even if they're frauds like Pippa and Kirsche will ruffle feathers for the most part.
 
I can appreciate how difficult looking into vtubing as a curiosity must be, since some parts of it are aggressively gatekept. There's good reason for that, since there are a lot of genuinely unpleasant and potentially dangerous individuals who orbit the sphere who I'd rather keep as far away as possible, but I realise it makes vtubing seem even more alien than it would otherwise.

Fortunately, I haven't felt gatekept against. Likely because I'm not really fandom material to begin with so I am not inclined to tread into that territory. Tend to more happily enjoy things in a solitary context or as an observer than with a large group. Introvert tendencies I suppose.

So yeah, this is likely why I've had more trouble with the conversation around VTubing than with the community itself.

If someone's asking for information about a specific vtuber, I have to be absolutely sure their motive is purely curious interest, and that I'm not accidentally spoonfeeding a stalker his next victim.

I developed an interest some years ago due to VTubing's rising popularity/influence. Success is more interesting than failure to me, so I chose to observe a VTuber who I thought had potential that had not been realized yet (room for growth). Fortunately, she was playing a game that I was curious about at the time (Alien Isolation). The VTuber called herself ironmouse and though I lost interest in her fairly quickly (around when she joined the group Vshojo), I recently checked back and found that she had done well for herself since then. Others that I had a tangential interest in (the few whom I can recall) seem to have disappeared for some reason or another, which wasn't too surprising to be honest.

As you can probably tell, it has been some years since reviewing the VTubing scene and the landscape has changed somewhat. So I find myself here in this thread because now I am at a disadvantage in recognizing patterns for success (or in some cases their appeal). To put it another way, I am out of touch with current trends/talent in addition to likely not being the target demographic anyway.

My interest is more clinical(?) in that I am not personally invested in the success/downfall of any particular VTuber and more interested in the social mechanics/functions/dynamics of successful VTubing.

The VTuber entity at its core is part corporate, human, and invented persona. Some lean more on corporate support, others on their crafted persona, while others have a more natural/personal appeal. Even so, having so many components contributes to them being inherently unstable entities and prone to failure, which is why finding a relatively stable/successful model is more interesting to me.

To be clear: the bar is fairly low and even more successful models tend to yield unhealthy effects (for the talent, fans, and "haters" alike).

Curious about one: Ouro Kronii.

Trying to understand the particulars of her appeal, or at least why she seems to be promoted so much. Have some guesses after reviewing her content, but would prefer to hear from others. Reasons can be positive or negative. Just looking for clarity from someone who knows.
 
I don't know if Sinder has awareness at all since some of her fans more or less noticed her fansly content isn't anything special. A cow tends to prevent people from giving him/her any criticism, which Sinder just did on Fansly.


This is why nobody respects most vtumors and their fanbase. Any criticism aimed at their oshi = durp durp u mad at internet lulz
She's a dumb e-whore most of forget exist. She's a dime a dozen except she does it with a digital character.
If we made every whore whose adult content website was lacking actual content a lolcow the forum would take weeks to navigate.
Honestly, you come off as someone who may have been upset at her for personal reasons than anything at this point.

If you think she's lolcow worthy go start a proving grounds thread.
 
It doesn't matter whether or not you fags admit that you watch someone like Sinder. It can be any vtumor, and the minute they get the slightest ounce of criticism, their fanbase gets upset. Just look at the Pippa thread. I've come to terms that mentioning any vtuber in a negative light even if they're frauds like Pippa and Kirsche will ruffle feathers for the most part.
We talk shit about vtubers here all the time, it's just that you've picked one nobody cares about and it's clear to everyone here you're personally offended that you got sub-par porn when you subbed to her art catalogue.
 
I don't know anything about Globie but this seems really weird X & A
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This is why nobody respects most vtumors and their fanbase. Any criticism aimed at their oshi = durp durp u mad at internet lulz
If you think Sinder is a lolcow then write a thread on her if you want. All i said is that you sound too assblasted compared to what Sinder has done (posting mediocre porn and then backtracking like a whore)

I have no love and sympathy for vtuber whores since they're exploiting the Twitch faggotry that looks the other way to e-whores. To the point where i would agree that it would be better if they were gone, but ultimately if you wanted a thread on her, unless there was more to her PL (iirc she was an ASMR whore) then i think it would be a pretty dry thread. Like many have said, people here have varying standards on what counts as a lolcow. I dont think that someone posting and backtracking on shitty drawn porn while being a dramawhore would be good content, but again. Feel free to make a proving grounds thread if you want, so you can get a so called unbiased opinion on Sinder being a whore (that she is)

A more general overview of the e-whore cliques and drama sounds more doable, especially with chinese whispers of Fansly shoving in excessive amounts of cash to get vtubers in, what with the Vtuber award promo thing and various rumors of them directly approaching people.
 
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I don't know anything about Globie but this seems really weird X & A
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Globie was the company Pippa Pebblesworth left. If I remember right she left because of some sort of disagreements with management. I don't think she ever divulged what that all was.
 
I don't know anything about Globie but this seems really weird X & A
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Squirmi saw this live. Didn't actually say anything besides "what?", "*sigh‎*", "fuck's sake", "what is happening?", "is this true?" and "sorry, guys, can't say anything, some internal problems", but here's an archive anyway. She sounds pretty distressed.
Cut out about 10 minutes of brb screen/actual stream not related to the tweet.


Source (timestamped)
 
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