Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

It feels like Trump wants to diverge all those resources in Ukraine to fight the drug cartels that have been plaguing the american continent for decades, a nice legacy to create I might add. In other words, sort that shit out EU cucks. Trump is probably just done with Europe, especially when he sees that europoors are sinking into authoritarianism once again despite being the main victims of it during ww2. It is just sad, but fuck them.
 
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It feels like Trump wants to diverge all those resources in Ukraine to fight the drug cartels that have been plaguing the american continent for decades, a nice legacy to create I might add. In other words, sort that shit out EU cucks. Trump is probably just done with Europe, especially when he sees that europoors are sinking into authoritarianism once again despite being the main victims of it during ww2. It is just sad, but fuck them.
As if Trump actually gives a flying fuck. Dude had four years and did fucking nothing about the problem other than bitch. If the druglords disappear, the need for Trump will also disappear.

Dude could've just created a "red light zone" where drugs are legal, and have the Federales tax that shit. That would've strangled the druglords' empires in a single stroke, just as how re-legalizing booze killed the mob's hold on it during the Prohibition era.
 
These people will say 'Our money, our rules. Don't like it? Fuck off and fight Russia by yourself''
I've seen that talking point used for two purposes at once: to paint Ukrainian people as pathetic beggars who deserve to suffer, and to attribute all Ukrainian accomplishments to the allmighty dollar.
In a Catch-22 of sorts, it's both "Ukraine bad" and "everything good in Ukraine is actually thanks to the US" at the same time.
No use getting angry at these people, of course.
 
That would have just created a safe passage for drugs into the rest of the country.
And it would've made the trade monitored and controlled, kept it respectable as a business, as opposed to creating a black market that gangsters would dominate.

The fucking irony!!
I know, right? The dude who calls himself "king" and rules through executive orders even though he could easily just push things through Congress. Dude's putting too much power in the executive branch.

Didn't they learn anything from Bush II and Obama? All that power Trump focuses into the Presidency can easily be turned against him and his supporters if he loses one fucking election. And if he tries to suspend elections, the army would coup him, given that they mostly come from Red States that are already suffering from his economic policies, and military vetereans already fucking hate his guts for the spending cuts he imposed on them to pay for his tax cuts for the rich.

I've seen that talking point used for two purposes at once: to paint Ukrainian people as pathetic beggars who deserve to suffer, and to attribute all Ukrainian accomplishments to the allmighty dollar.
In a Catch-22 of sorts, it's both "Ukraine bad" and "everything good in Ukraine is actually thanks to the US" at the same time.
No use getting angry at these people, of course.
It's like yelling at a wall. You might as well have a better chance at talking down a jihadist suicide bomber.

The western Euro governments always loved authoritarianism, it is who's authoritarianism that's been the sticking point where they squabble over.
And Trump is just as bad, if not worse. At least Biden and the Europeans knew not to rock the boat.

Louis XIV learned the hard way that rocking the boat gets everyone on your ass.
 
Wait, I thought the point of this exercise was to not sell Eastern Europe out to the Russians.
They didn't even do that back in WW2. They let the Soviets take Poland 1/3 of Germany and all of Eastern Europe. They claimed they had to stop the Germans to protect Polish independence and then they just let the Soviets take it.

But hey, at least we defeated those damn Nazis. The world is much better off.
 
100k+ dead troops and the 3 Day SMO is now a 3 YEAR smo.
Closer to, if not in excess of, 200k dead troops.
Approaching 900k total casualties.

Yeah I'm not sacrificing American cities for Ukrainian ones. Sorry.
This implies any situation where Russia can touch a US city without mutual suicide.

I mean maybe some Tu-160s can hit Anchorage or a conventional SSGN can drop some Kalibrs on California, but their ability to deliver standard, conventional ordinance off-continent is extremely limited (for the time being).
It feels like Trump wants to diverge all those resources in Ukraine to fight the drug cartels that have been plaguing the american continent for decades
Bro are you retarded? We have the resources to both and then some.

I'm sure the 31 abrams out of the 4650 the US has that were given to Ukraine were gonna make all the difference in dealing with cartels. What resources are you even talking about?
I am legit interested in how many Abrams, HIMARS and M777s could have been built/purchased with all the USAID that was going into LGBTQIANXIVM+++/Gender/Feminism programs around the world.
 
The newly developed "Foot Crusher" drone-dropped munition; 350 grams, over 700 fragments, up to 25m AoE:

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The science of these things keep getting scarier. No wonder Russians are ripping their own throats out when they can't eat a bullet or grenade, rather than get dropped/droned (again).
 
They didn't even do that back in WW2. They let the Soviets take Poland 1/3 of Germany and all of Eastern Europe. They claimed they had to stop the Germans to protect Polish independence and then they just let the Soviets take it.

But hey, at least we defeated those damn Nazis. The world is much better off.
That was the joke. You can make all the unprovoked war you want on your neighbors as long as you have a big mustache and prefer borscht to schnitzel, apparently.

But seriously, every interaction between the Anglosphere and Eastern Europe ends with the former rug-pulling the latter. You'd think they'd stop falling for it eventually.

(Old joke: "the colors on the Polish flag are highly symbolic: white for purity, red for sacrifice, and blue for loyal allies.")
 
Dude could've just created a "red light zone" where drugs are legal, and have the Federales tax that shit. That would've strangled the druglords' empires in a single stroke, just as how re-legalizing booze killed the mob's hold on it during the Prohibition era.
This is the most retarded shit I've ever seen on KF, and that's saying something. Weed was legalized in the western states and now the cartels control the majority of the grow farms. It hasn't impacted drug consumption one iota. The Western states have free drug kit vending machines complete with clean needles and crack pipes. Hard drug use is through the roof.

Fucking lolberts. I'm sure lowering the age of consent to nine will cut down on child exploitation right?
 
This is the most retarded shit I've ever seen on KF, and that's saying something. Weed was legalized in the western states and now the cartels control the majority of the grow farms. It hasn't impacted drug consumption one iota. The Western states have free drug kit vending machines complete with clean needles and crack pipes. Hard drug use is through the roof.

Fucking lolberts. I'm sure lowering the age of consent to nine will cut down on child exploitation right?
Then ban the use of them outside of the red light zones. Duh. That's why you have them in the first place. Just as how you have smoke-free zones and zones where you can light one up. If a crackhead lights up outside of the proper zone, you throw his ass in jail.

Use your fucking brains.
 
Then ban the use of them outside of the red light zones. Duh. That's why you have them in the first place. Just as how you have smoke-free zones and zones where you can light one up.

Use your fucking brains.
Bro use your own fucking brain, I'm begging you.

Hamsterdam on the Wire wasn't a real thing
 
How has Zelenskyy been "obliquely insulting" Trump? Zel has been nothing but deferential the last five years. He pushed back only slightly when Trump went on his unhinged fact-free rants attacking him in vicious terms.

Elon Musk says Zel wants money and power not peace:
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This administration is an absolute clown car. Are there any adults in the room anymore?
The idea that Zelensky sits there and farms money while his country is gradually being eaten away by a superior force with seemingly no end in sight is pure fucking insanity, considering there's a very real possibility of assassination, and certainly no hope for mercy if Russia was to somehow capture Kiev - which was already attempted.
He could've taken whatever money he wanted and ran away the moment war started, or anytime after that, it absolutely makes no sense to stay. Power? Dude is stuck with this responsibility and is fulfilling his oath to the nation. Yanukovych ran to Russia with a bunch of gold at the first sign of trouble, same as Ashraf Ghani when Taliban launched takeover of Afghanistan - that's what these people do. There's literally no reason to risk staying in Ukraine if Zelensky was indeed that selfish, this is fucking stupid. These retards just parrot retarded nonsense.
 
The idea that Zelensky sits there and farms money while his country is gradually being eaten away by a superior force with seemingly no end in sight is pure fucking insanity, considering there's a very real possibility of assassination, and certainly no hope for mercy if Russia was to somehow capture Kiev.
There's no getting to MAGAs and Z people. As Zelensky found out, they live in their own bubble. Only reality slapping them in the face would change their mind (like how a bunch of MAGA voters' lives got ruined by Trump's policies). Until they see it with their own two eyes, they will continue believing that Zelensky is some rich degenerate who fiddles while Rome burns, even to their dying breath. It's the line the party fed them, and they'll stick with it until the end.

I can understand the Z people doing that, since being Russians and all, they've been conditioned to accept authoritarianism by their country for centuries. It surprises me that the MAGAs do it, though, especially given their constant back-chat of how political correctness and censorship or the media rot people's brains. But when their own media feeds them lies, they swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

He could've taken whatever money he wanted and ran away the moment war started, or anytime after that, it absolutely makes no sense to stay. Power? Dude is stuck with this responsibility and is fulfilling his oath to the nation. Yanukovych ran to Russia with a bunch of gold at the first sign of trouble, same as Ashraf Ghani when Taliban launcher takeover of Afghanistan. There's literally no reason to risk staying in Ukraine if Zelensky was indeed that selfish, this is fucking stupid. These retards just parrot retarded nonsense.
When the Biden admin offered him a safe route to escape, he said no. Obviously that took courage, especially since Putin tried to kill him multiple times.
 
This is the most retarded shit I've ever seen on KF, and that's saying something. Weed was legalized in the western states and now the cartels control the majority of the grow farms. It hasn't impacted drug consumption one iota. The Western states have free drug kit vending machines complete with clean needles and crack pipes. Hard drug use is through the roof.

Fucking lolberts. I'm sure lowering the age of consent to nine will cut down on child exploitation right?
You're dumb AND Indian.
 
Yes but only a small percentage of them are actively simping for Putin. There's probably more ruskie-hating boomers in his base than those. Just weird.
I get the impression that most Americans long got over Russia, and still don't particularly care even following recent events. Meanwhile, America was living rent free in the heads of Russians for decades, as an object of envy and a scapegoat.
Most Americans seem focused on domestic politics and are very passionate about it, which is the opposite of Russians, because their input in domestic politics doesn't matter and is thus non-existent. Instead, it's all about asserting dominance on the global scene and proving Russia's superiority to others in order to make up for their inferiority complex, so Russian propaganda is all about Russia stronk, America/Europe bad.

I would attribute it to hubris honestly, but I guess we have to trust the plan and wait.
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*scratches head* Ugh, why not just do it so that this definitely doesn't happen???
I just hate the white noise of everyone on all sides flying off the handle the minute Trump opens his mouth (or the twitter app) because its just slop to sift while waiting for anything of solid value to come out. i thought everyone had learned from 2016-2020 just how much hot air Trump produces while at a rest state but apparently not.
You could blame this on Trump, the tendency to run his mouth is to his own detriment. He already knows there's a whole lot of people chomping at the bit to present him in the worst possible light, yet he still does it.
 
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