Marvel Rivals - Superhero slop meets overwatch

[Private Tag Reporter]

I would go so far as to say most characters are overpowered and can single-handedly carry a game, with the notable exception of Black Widow. Iron Man's team-up is devestating, and especially powerful at low ranks, but at higher ranks against teams that know what they're doing, he has a harder time. A good team would switch or focus him to counter, as Edgy posted, one of his most common counters is Iron Fist. Namor and Hawkeye, both sort of sniper type characters, do well against him. A Hela with decent aim, Punisher, etc. Being up in the air is equal parts blessing and curse, because there's less cover up there as well.

 

[Raw Onion Enjoyer]

Congrats on reaching Celestial, solo or did you have a team ?

Yeah, most of the player base is full of babies who will start throwing temper tantrums the second something is not to their liking. I think the big issue with the triple support meta is that the ultimates are basically the same. C&D into Luna into Mantis means you can stop playing the game for a minute. In terms of balance/meta, the issue is probably the conservative approach to balance changes. I really hope mid-season brings a lot of balance changes. Especially for the healers, they need to tone down how fast they can get their ultimate.
I can barely stomach a match per day due to the insane faggotry in chat, stale meta and the fucking EOMM.

Solo and mostly tanking, it's an underestimated role. Generally picking what the team needs and keeping the morale high by joking around and not encouraging the flamers will help a lot.

Few times I've restarted the game after losing to trick the algoritm into thinking that me losing leads to no engagement. Could have helped, but I didn't see a big difference. I think avoiding trolls is what helped the most. I would lose a match, avoid a guy then win against him the next match lol.

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[Raw Onion Enjoyer]

What a trash event. They wanted you to queue for quickplay within a 2 hour period and meet one of 4 pre-selected twitch fags for a possibility of getting those valentine skins. I played for 2h with a friend on the correct server and nothing. Complete waste of time. Its probably been abused by stream snipers queuing at the same time, too making it impossible to just meet them the legit way. Or was it botted by chinks snce you can select the servers manually? Wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Terfatron]

It's the 40k tactic of everything is OP so nothing is OP.
I've reached plat1 as highest and I feel this is my rank. I could probably do diamond if I went for it but the increase in sweatyness is not something I look forward to.
@Raw Onion Enjoyer it sounds like diamond + is mostly streamers/try hards overcompensating/greasy men on a lovequest putting their entire personality in to this game.
Also, congratulations on the celestial

I started a new account on pc to play w a friend and omg the bronze lobbies are so much more chill. People are pretty friendly and is not consumed by the META!!. I don't play my main on there but i see a LOT of people having smurfs just to stomp the FUCK out.
Seeing a Hawkeye in b2 with a 43/2 and 30 final hits is not even uncommon.

High plat is also kinda chill, I get the feeling people are kinda OK w being there but going to diamond and above I have the sneaking suspicion people really have a need to prove themselves.

But the skill floor is still really manageable (I give it one more season max) so ranking up is still kinda "easy", even if I still see people being "hardstuck" in bronze 2 (how?!).

MR kinda dropped the same time I was going through some shit so now I'm kinda seeing the end of my enthusiasm.
Also learning how fucking gay a big part of the "community" is also put a wet blanket over it. If its not endless sperging in chat over chosing the "wrong" hero/surrendering just because it didn't go EXACTLY how they wanted it to go just take one look at the steam forums or reddit and see the absolute state of the players being vocal online.
I still find it rather amusing but the entitlement of everyone went from mostly amusing to baffling to a headache.

Maybe if they can drop some new maps that would be cool and/or a new mode (nothing fancy idk) that would rekindle something but just skin and heroes feel like a bit "meh". In a endless sea of games and monster hunter wilds on the horizon i don't see why I should pour countless hours in to something that's mostly a very fancy storefront in the long run

 

[Edgy But Dull]

High plat is also kinda chill, I get the feeling people are kinda OK w being there but going to diamond and above I have the sneaking suspicion people really have a need to prove themselves.

A lot of Diamond players are people seething that they aren't GM, as that's when the community will even consider your opinion.

 

[Terfatron]

A lot of Diamond players are people seething that they aren't GM, as that's when the community will even consider your opinion.

And like, who cares about GM when we have the celestial and the eternal (?). People are weird

Everytime i see someone start a sentence w "as a X3-1" followed by some lukewarm nonpinion, whatever the rank, i just sigh loudly and read the next post lol.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I made it to Gold 3.

A few observations is that I have noticed:

Teams that push to far in domination games to the enemy spawn point, get wrecked hard.

The most dangerous moments is when there are 30 seconds left and the entire enemy team was wiped out.

Some teams just split up too far and get pwned fast.

Dr Strange and Groot and Venom are just troll characters.

Some maps are just won or lost in the beginning of the convoy games when the fight is over the very first capture point.

A lot of teams were allergic to the capture point in domination games.

I thought the matchmaker is just trolling me with winning and losing streaks.

 

[FiveStarAce]

>Pick Magneto
>Just stand in the middle of the capture zone and ping enemies
>watch everyone else doing the work and cruise to victory

This game is such a joke, i love it

 

[MrJokerRager]

Goon squad rizz up.

https://www.marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/

 

[Gamepads]

I'm getting mixed signals. I think they were technically a support studio, but otherwise were still leads on the project and NetEase.

 

[Hammr2]

I'm getting mixed signals. I think they were technically a support studio, but otherwise were still leads on the project and NetEase.

Because they are. If they were that important, they would be the one appearing on game update video.

 

[Twin Addler]

Made it to Gold III the last night I can play before reset. I'm glad I'm getting the Red Sue skin later.

I played mostly as Venom and if I get a good team I can pop off diving to their backlines harassing them and swinging back to my team for heals before doing it again. But so many times I get a group where no one wants to be the 2nd tank and Venom feels awful as solo tank.

One group even had 5 dps and no one wanted to switch. Of course one of them was using MCU skin Spiderman. This is my first hero shooter so I dunno why the consensus I see is OW having Role queue is bad and Rivals not having it is good but wouldn't that feature fix this issue?

I'm hoping that when Ben Grimm releases later I'll be solo tanking a lot less since people will want to play the new character. Although maybe that's a monkey's paw wish since I might be co-tanking with someone who never played vanguard before.

I noticed a big mistake I and the people I get teamed with keep making is if we die one at a time, we all keep rushing back to point instead of regrouping and jumping in together.

 

[Edgy But Dull]

This is my first hero shooter so I dunno why the consensus I see is OW having Role queue is bad and Rivals not having it is good but wouldn't that feature fix this issue?

That fixes the issue but increases queue times for specific roles and kills a lot of comp creativity. There's a lot of viable comps:

• 1/3/2: Much more aggression than the standard 2/2/2 and works well when you have a good solo tank like Strange but that solo tank is the lynchpin and may have issues taking space. Can have one of the DPS play a beefier character like Mr. Fantastic, Wolverine, or Magik to act as an off-tank.
• 1/2/3: Triple support comp that has decent damage throughput and the triple support ults give them plenty of time to kill your team but has weaker pushing power and can be pushed back by putting far too much pressure on their solo tank. Can also be countered by killing through support ults like Magneto's ult,
• 2/1/3: Triple support comp that has more durability and can take space a lot easier but has lower damage throughput and a lot of its damage relies on that 1 duelist. One of the supports being a good off-DPS support like Mantis, Jeff, or Loki is almost mandatory. You could also run Rocket with Punisher as Punisher's damage output with the infinite ammo is basically an ult for 12 seconds on a 40 sec cooldown. Punisher ult buffed by Rocket's ult needs to be instantly killed or it will wipe the enemy team extremely quickly even if they pop a healer ult. Those 1-shot counters still work against this comp but it's harder to do against 2 tanks as they can counter those counters (Mag putting a bubble on his C&D ulting so their Mag can't 1-shot with his ult or Strange/Magneto blocking a 1-shot ult with their shield).

All 3 of those comps have more than a 10% pick rate at GM+. Even the retarded comps that are hardly played (like 1/4/1, 0/4/2, or 3/1/2) are good for the game because it allows more weird shit and people might find setups that are hard for teams to fight against.

 

[Private Tag Reporter]

League of Legends had "teambuilder" before they eventually succumbed to role queue and I thought that was the best thing since sliced bread. Basically you get put into a random lobby with a team captain who pre-decides the comp, and you can choose to fit into that comp or to re-queue for a new lobby. For people that like weird comps, they can still run the comps they want, like 0/4/2 or whatever, and try and make it work, or you can join a more trad comp like 2/2/2. It's the best of both worlds, but I think it does slow down matchmaking quite a bit, since you have to filter through the different lobbies to find the one you want.

Would be cool to see something like it, at least for comp.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I noticed a big mistake I and the people I get teamed with keep making is if we die one at a time, we all keep rushing back to point instead of regrouping and jumping in together.

Domination games are much more frustrating than convoy.

 

[Raw Onion Enjoyer]

Those annoying god mode support ults got ~25% charge nerf, but it will not fix anything. Matches will just be bigger stomps with more downtime. They are way too powerful and are often the sole reason for victory.

Luna has already been getting banned at an increasing rate and not without a reason. This season is shaping up to be yet another C&D, Luna, Mantis god mode snoozefest.

The funniest thing is when you ban Cloak & Dagger in the last second and a woman starts speaking on mic crying that her one-trick got banned. She has to actually aim at people? The horror. Same women who main C&D also main Mercy in Overwatch.

 

[Terfatron]

Those annoying god mode support ults got ~25% charge nerf, but it will not fix anything. Matches will just be bigger stomps with more downtime. They are way too powerful and are often the sole reason for victory.

Luna has already been getting banned at an increasing rate and not without a reason. This season is shaping up to be yet another C&D, Luna, Mantis god mode snoozefest.

The funniest thing is when you ban Cloak & Dagger in the last second and a woman starts speaking on mic crying that her one-trick got banned. She has to actually aim at people? The horror. Same women who main C&D also main Mercy in Overwatch.

That's where rocket comes in lol.
If youre in diamond (and above) and you're still onetricking you kinda have to take the L.
It's gotta be a humiliation fetish to so brazenly admit you suck that hard. This game give you every chance to practice heroes (practice range, ai, custom match) so just have 3-5 you feel comfortable with and there won't be a problem.
I did the mistake of onetricking for a while but couldn't deal with embarrassing myself everytime I didn't get "MY" hero so I gitted gud.

I don't think they should nerf heals but buff everything else. maybe same effect but much more fun than everything being nerfed in to oblivion. Luna can have her ult as is but make widow be able to headshot her or clagger can do the gay little swirl but hulk should be able to do the pick up move mid ult and slam them to hell.

 

[Raw Onion Enjoyer]

I don't think they should nerf heals but buff everything else. maybe same effect but much more fun than everything being nerfed in to oblivion. Luna can have her ult as is but make widow be able to headshot her or clagger can do the gay little swirl but hulk should be able to do the pick up move mid ult and slam them to hell.

Those god mode ults definitely need a nerf more than just charge required. They are way over the scale in terms of power and buffing everything else just to counter the obviously broken stuff will only perpetuate the never-ending cycle of power creep. Pretty much everything else is fine but those ults. Squishy supports shouldn't be able to just go into the frontline against 6 enemy heroes tanking everything because they pressed Q. Anything that doesn't instantly kill them gets outhealed before you can even blink.

Luna - 250 hp/s + CC immunity
Cloak - 250 hp/s (stacked to 750 hp/s before patch)
Mantis - 150 hp/s

So you either need to burst them with ~500 dmg at once (if they have shields) or you need over 250 DPS to kill them. Mantis is still annoying, but way more balanced. I have never seen anyone ban Mantis. Luna on other hand is becoming the new Wolverine.

 

[Terfatron]

Those god mode ults definitely need a nerf more than just charge required. They are way over the scale in terms of power and buffing everything else just to counter the obviously broken stuff will only perpetuate the never-ending cycle of power creep. Pretty much everything else is fine but those ults. Squishy supports shouldn't be able to just go into the frontline against 6 enemy heroes tanking everything because they pressed Q. Anything that doesn't instantly kill them gets outhealed before you can even blink.

Luna - 250 hp/s + CC immunity
Cloak - 250 hp/s (stacked to 750 hp/s before patch)
Mantis - 150 hp/s

So you either need to burst them with ~500 dmg at once (if they have shields) or you need over 250 DPS to kill them. Mantis is still annoying, but way more balanced. I have never seen anyone ban Mantis. Luna on other hand is becoming the new Wolverine.

Counter her with a widow/racoon combo.
Headshot, done. Since someone said widow is good you actually see her in games.
And you are correct, I'm not arguing that, I'm just personally tired of nerfing. I want more buffs over all. Adding power is always more fun then reducing it.


BTW, anyone else suffering from burnout? It was fun while it lasted but I just feel like I'm trolling my teammates rn because my hearts not innit.
Gonna try playing with a full stack and see if it's better but slogging through comp is just that rn, a slog.

Spoiler: Tinfoil sperg

ok, this has nothing to do with anything but @Private Tag Reporter and @MrJokerRager pointed out the game as a marketing tool and its just spot on
I was at the child section at HM and they were selling marvel clothes. Nothing new since they colab with both marvel and DC since forever but the carachter choices was so odd. Iron man, hulk, spidey and raccoon on the same shirt. Why raccoon? Sure, there is some shows on disney+ but who watches them when they same streaming service has bluey?
That colab came out maybe a month ago. The same time the hype was still fresh and raccoon was getting mega featured.

New blade movie= new blade caracther. The latest push for Squirrel Girl who already been in the talks for multiple shows/movies but never got off the ground.
They made a pod with squirrl girl (she always had the same VA) in 2022 that's pretty ok if you like goofy stuff.
Games and movies take years to plan and produce and knowing marvel is on a pretty much 10yr plan i wonder what the in-house road map actually look like.
HERE is a list of all new marvel projects that's in the works (DOOMSDAY lol) so guess we can all take a look at that and see if there's anything we like since it most likely will show up as a skin/carachter/season. Lol

I get that the game exist to promote marvel and mcu to a extent but I start to get this feeling it never ends. I gladly participate in capitalism (as many in this thread probably do) but these blurred lines of what's promoting what is just a bit skeevy and I downloaded a game, first and foremost, not a interactive pr app.
Again, ofc it exists to promote, like every tie in ever, but it's when it becomes too blatant it's getting harder to ignore.

I'll take my uwutism pieces now