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Should be a wild four years.

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PANIC: Attorney General Pam Bondi reveals imminent release of the Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy lists: “I was just briefed on this topic. There are LOTS of documents. LOTS of documents. Stay tuned. We are keeping this promise.” It’s Happening.

Dude. No.

You really don’t understand how fucked up China is. They’re actually worse than North Korea

Will be easier to kill them after we steal europes shit
 
That sentence describes so much of what is wrong with America in general. Especially the second half.
The Democrats spent 4 years thumbing their nose at America. The entire Biden administration was a 4-year revenge operation against half the country for having the audacity to vote for a non-uniparty stooge. From the blatant lies about COVID to the J6 prosecutions to the border chaos to the general incompetence, it was all about letting us know that they knew that we knew what a bunch of shitheads they are, and that they don't care, they're going to run the most incompetent government outside of Africa the world has ever seen, and, in their minds, there was nothing we could do about it since they had gotten so good at stealing elections and had brain-rotted their own voters into not caring about inflation or crime. If they had just not run a bust-out operation on America, they'd still be in charge.
I don't doubt that they ran things poorly on purpose out of spite. Turning everything they touch into shit is a deliberate act on their part, and they get off on it. Not just in government, either. If a leftist gets enough pull somewhere, they will either turn it into shit on purpose, or stupidly allow the former to do so out of some simple-minded sense of virtue.

Now, they're going to have to watch as everything the fucked up gets slowly fixed, as they're helpless to do anything about it.
Every mention of Gunsmith Cats makes me weep. WHY THE FUCK DID JAPAN ROB THIS ANIME FROM US? WHY DIDN'T A FULL SERIES GET MADE?
 
I'm curious if you guys are experiencing the same thing I am, or if this is a more anecdotal experience for me.

Ever since the inauguration, anyone I know who is remotely left leaning has turned a complete fucking politisperg. It was slow at first, maybe a comment every few days through January. Now it's reaching a fever pitch. Multiple times a day they have to sperg and rant about how much they hate dumpf.

This is across multiple unrelated social circles, both professional and personal. In all these groups there was always an understanding (or so I thought) that there are people with different politics and we should be respectful of that. The last four years the conservatives have remained cordial, but barely a month into Trump's term and the libshits across the board have turned into giant raging cunts. Constant whining, constant overt jabs at the other side (knowing they are present), and just being insufferably whiny.

I'm all ready at my ropes end with some of these fuckers, I'm about ready to go nuclear and start cutting people off if they can't even attempt to maintain a modicum of the decorum we did for them.

I just wanna know if anyone else is experiencing this, because it seems like it's not an isolated incident even in my personal life.
 
Stephen King TDS
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an interesting metaphor. the hyenas were an obvious nod to the extreme poverty of germany in the 1920s and 30s after ww1's treaties without any doubt. they grovel and grasp for any food that happens to exist in the barren, desolate land they live in, and when a charismatic leader comes in and promises them a life of luxury, they buy it because they're desperate. the story teaches a lesson they are too uninterested in listening to for them to learn, because they're basically saying that they castigate the poor, desperate people who just want a better life simply because they tried to GET that better life.

liberals are truly amazing creatures aren't they?
 
"experts say"

Trump comes close to the red line of openly defying judges, experts say
The Washington Post (archive.ph)
By Justin Jouvenal, Leo Sands, and Ann E. Marimow
2025-02-21 01:24:42GMT

Faced with judges’ orders to block certain initiatives, the Trump administration has found ways to tell courts it still has the authority to act.
Federal judges have blocked President Donald Trump’s attempts to freeze trillions in federal grants and loans, halt billions in foreign assistance and dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development.

But in each case, the administration has said it still has legal authority to do at least some of what it wants, prompting judges and those challenging Trump’s actions to accuse him of failing to comply.

Legal experts said the administration’s aggressive maneuvers have approached the red line of openly flouting court orders, as Trump and his top aides and advisers assert vast presidential powers.
The most dramatic example came Thursday. U.S. District Court Judge Amir H. Ali ordered the Trump administration to comply with a temporary restraining order (TRO) lifting its 90-day pause on foreign aid. He stopped short of saying Trump officials were in contempt of his ruling as the plaintiffs in the case had wanted.


“The TRO does not permit Defendants to simply search for and invoke new legal authorities as a post-hoc rationalization for the enjoined agency action,” Ali wrote.

On Tuesday, attorneys for the government said agencies could keep a hold on much of the funding despite Ali’s order, based on statutes and regulations that exist separately from Trump’s executive directive. The government said Ali’s order was “silent” on those other powers and vowed to continue suspension of aid unless the judge clarified his ruling.

Legal experts and a former federal judge said doing so despite a court order was extraordinary and troubling. David Super, a Georgetown University law professor, said the administration was “one step short of outright defiance” of a federal judge.

“This response is quite consistent with what I am seeing across many of the challenges to the new administration’s sweeping actions: They insist that injunctions relate only to one source of legal authority and then manufacture another to keep doing what they have been ordered not to do,” Super wrote in an email.

He pointed to an episode this month, when U.S. District Judge John J. McConnell Jr. of Rhode Island ruled that the administration had violated the “plain text” of his order lifting a temporary freeze on trillions of dollars in federal grants and loans.

In the USAID funding case, the administration said it had “worked diligently” to comply with Ali’s decision and had released $250 million in foreign aid this week, a fraction of the overall pot of assistance.

The assertions drew a furious response from the health organizations that brought the suit. They wrote in their motion to hold Trump officials in contempt that the hold on funding to combat diseases such as HIV, tuberculosis and malaria, and provide cash assistance to foreign governments, had caused deaths and “irreparable harm” for millions around the world.

The government “makes the remarkable assertion that Defendants have reviewed thousands of affected State Department and USAID grants, contracts, and cooperative agreements, and concludes that — despite this Court’s unambiguous order — terminating nearly all foreign assistance funding was legal,” the organizations wrote. “This Court should not brook such brazen defiance of the express terms of its order.”

The filing included a declaration from a USAID officer who said the Trump administration’s moves to oust agency employees also made it impossible to comply with Ali’s order to restart the foreign aid.

“Without USAID Foreign Service Officers managing the many steps required, from budget, to contracting, to financial support, none of the Agency’s overseas programs will be effectively restarted under the [temporary restraining order],” the employee identified as “Jessica Doe” said.

The government again denied violating the ruling Thursday, saying Ali’s order “clearly and unambiguously authorizes Defendants to enforce their rights under the terms of contracts and grants, including by terminating them.”

The judge’s order blocked Trump’s effort to pause the aid and a separate State Department move that stopped nearly all current and new funding for foreign assistance.

Trump said the aid was not aligned with American interests and values. Ali, an appointee of President Joe Biden, ruled that the pause was “arbitrary and capricious” and not a rational precursor to reviewing the programs.

In the Rhode Island case, McConnell accused the administration of violating his order after nearly two dozen Democratic state attorneys general told him millions in funding for clean energy and transportation projects was still being impounded by the Trump administration.

The Justice Department responded that it had worked “in good faith” to comply with McConnell’s temporary restraining order but believed that some funding was exempt from the order and could still be frozen because it had been paused by a separate action by the Office of Management and Budget.

McConnell, an appointee of President Barack Obama, rejected that idea, writing that his order was “clear and unambiguous, and there are no impediments to the Defendants’ compliance.”

On Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Carl J. Nichols, a Trump appointee from his first term in office, questioned whether the administration was meeting the terms of a different temporary restraining order that prohibits an administration plan to immediately place overseas USAID workers on administrative leave.

Such a move could threaten the workers’ safety because many are deployed in unstable regions, Nichols said when blocking the effort.

Peter Marocco, the head of USAID, said in a sworn statement Feb. 10 that those stationed abroad would be given the choice to remain at their posts and could keep existing benefits even if they were placed on leave. But Marocco told the court four days later that any USAID employee who fails to leave a post would no longer officially be considered to be serving overseas and could lose access to benefits.

Nichols called the situation a “mess” during a hearing Wednesday and said Marocco’s shifting statements seemed to violate the “crystal-clear” understanding of how overseas staff should be handled. Nichols, who like Ali is a judge for the U.S. District Court in D.C., is weighing whether to extend his restraining order.

Nancy Gertner, a senior lecturer on law at Harvard University and former federal judge, said attempts to skirt temporary restraining orders are unusual because such orders in general last only a couple of weeks. After that, the administration gets a fresh chance to make its case as judges weigh whether to issue preliminary injunctions against executive orders.

“It’s particularly troubling that someone says they can’t wait out 14 days,” Gertner said. “If you don’t like the order, you oppose it at the preliminary injunction phase, and then you appeal. You don’t thumb your nose at the courts in the interim.”

Jonathan H. Adler, a law professor at Case Western Reserve University, said presidents have regularly sought workarounds when judges restrict their actions.

“I’d be careful about characterizing stuff as outright defiance as opposed to aggressive or clever efforts to get around the limits imposed by a judicial order,” Adler said. “Government officials often try to do that.”

As an example, Adler pointed to the Biden administration formulating a new student-loan-forgiveness plan after the Supreme Court ruled that Biden’s initial initiative did not pass legal muster. Conservatives said Biden was exceeding his legal authority.

But Super, the Georgetown professor, noted that the Supreme Court rejected Biden’s initial plan based on the legal authority that the president had cited to support it.

“The court had no occasion to say that all student loan forgiveness was unlawful,” Super wrote in his email. Biden “therefore did not violate any court order when he issued a new student loan forgiveness plan (and duly obeyed court orders against that plan when they came down).”

Peter M. Shane, a distinguished scholar in residence at the New York University School of Law, said Trump has frequently tested judges’ rulings but often pulls back before violating them.

“His technique in private litigation is, ‘How close to the line can I get?’” Shane said. “Let’s see what happens in the next round in court.”

The Trump administration, which has been on the losing end of most of the early legal battles over its executive orders, has chafed at judges imposing limits on the government’s efforts, with Vice President JD Vance and Trump aide Elon Musk issuing controversial calls to defy court orders.

Trump’s top advocate at the Supreme Court also vented frustration in filings this week that asked the justices to clear the way for the president to fire the leader of an independent agency that investigates whistleblower reports.

Acting solicitor general Sarah M. Harris said the court should make clear that the president can immediately appeal court orders that “usurp core Article II powers,” a reference to the part of the Constitution that vests power in the president. Temporary orders restraining the administration’s initiatives are “not blank checks for district courts to stop any and all presidential actions for up to a month at a time,” Harris wrote.

Shane said he sees the Trump court filings as part of an effort by the president to amass authority. The administration has pushed an aggressive version of a conservative philosophy called the unitary executive theory, which posits that the executive has total control over policy and firing decisions.

On Tuesday, Trump issued an executive order challenging the independence of agencies that handle trade, communications and financial regulations and have long been insulated from the political influence of the executive. Trump has also asserted he has the right to impound funds, a key power the Constitution says is the prerogative of Congress. He and his aides have fired inspectors general and prosecutors who worked on his criminal cases.

Trump wrote on social media over the weekend that “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.”

“The president wants to push a view of constitutional authority where he gets the authority for how funds are spent, for how government functions are structured, for how subordinate officials behave,” Shane said. “And he wants to be able to do that without being checked by congressional oversight or judicial review.”
Democrats ‘should not be knee-jerk institution defenders,’ new Center for American Progress chief says
Semafor (archive.ph)
By Ben Smith
2025-02-20 18:24:47GMT
The News
The new leader of one of the Democratic Party’s leading institutions, the Center for American Progress, said in an interview that her party needs to oppose Donald Trump across the board — but also offer voters more appealing alternatives.

“No is better than yes. But just saying ‘no’ makes us vulnerable to the critique that we are just defenders of the status quo,” said Neera Tanden, who was named Thursday the president and CEO of the Center for American Progress, a role she previously held from 2012 to 2020.

“We’re in a competition of ideas,” Tanden told Semafor. “Trump has ideas. We’re in a competition with him for whose ideas are better.”

She arrives in the role as public polling shows Democratic voters are almost as disappointed in their own elected officials as they are appalled by Republicans. Tanden and CAP, with an annual budget around $50 million, are as close as the Democratic Party gets to an establishment.

Tanden has managed to span the party’s divides: A key aide to Hillary Clinton since Bill Clinton’s presidency and through the 2008 and 2016 presidential campaigns, she was among the relatively few Clintonites who took top roles in the Obama administration.

She played a central role in the 2010 passage of the Affordable Care Act before leaving to run CAP, where Wikileaks swept her into the Democrats’ bitter internecine battles. (She notes that she’s since worked regularly with Senator Bernie Sanders, and was as we spoke “retweeting Senator Sanders’ speech on Russia.”)

Tanden later spent four years in Joe Biden’s administration, dropping a bid to become his budget chief over fiery tweets in that very different era, and then directing his Domestic Policy Council.

Now she’s wrestling with a central question of her party’s identity: Can it offer more than appalled support for business as usual against a rampant Trump and Elon Musk?

“We are not the incumbents. We should not be knee-jerk institution defenders,” Tanden said. “People do want change. We have to argue why our vision of change is better.”

But that will begin, she said, with confrontational opposition.

“The most important thing about Trump is that he’s a bully, and if you cower he will take your breakfast money and your lunch money. He’ll take all your money,” she said. “I’m a fighter, and I’m ready for the fight.”

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Tanden succeeds Patrick Gaspard, a former Obama adviser and past leader of George Soros’ Open Society Foundation. She takes over CAP at a moment when Democratic leaders’ frustrations include the work ethic of their own staff — who many worry are too focused on issues of justice inside their own workplace while young Republicans outwork them.

In her first run at CAP, Tanden occasionally clashed with her staff over what were, in retrospect, early signs of that conflict.

“We’re in a moment of maximum peril, and it is a great privilege to work at a place like the Center for American Progress, where we are trying to work on behalf of a lot of people who face a lot of harm,” she said, asked about Democrats’ broad complaints about their own aides.

“If you believe you’re in a battle for the soul of the country, then you have to act like you’re in a battle for the soul of the country,” she added.

On a number of issues, Tanden stressed that Democrats need to oppose Trump while offering alternatives.

With border crossings at record lows in recent months, for example, she argued that “the lion’s share of that work” was done by a Biden executive order in June.

“We can’t ignore a topic that matters a lot to people because we think it helps his side, not our side. This was the lesson on immigration. We got to an answer on this — very late,” she said. “We can’t [oppose] mass deportations unless we have a strong immigration plan that includes reforms of asylum and the border.”

Of Trump’s assault on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion programs, she said: “We should be clear that diversity matters to people and how it improves things. But when it feels like you’re preferencing one group over another — the first principle here is that we’re all equal, and we support diversity.”

When it comes to public safety, she noted that “working-class people are victims of crime at a way higher level than upper-income people, and they see that as a security issue.”

And as Trump and Vice President JD Vance lean heavily into gender as a cultural flashpoint Tanden said the Democratic Party needs to take the issues facing young men more seriously.

“There is something happening with fewer opportunities for younger men, and it’s driving a lot of anger. And it’s creating a gender chasm — that’s a problem we should try to understand,” she said. “The right is exploiting that by saying, ‘You’re down because the left hates you.’ There is a fundamental issue there.”

Ben's View
Some Democrats are asking themselves whether the party should borrow then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s 2009 playbook and become the “Party of No,” simply rejecting every Trump initiative just as McConnell fought Obama. The now-retiring Republican senator recognized (accurately) that his voters sought that and would reward it.

Tanden said that approach is necessary, but not sufficient. She compared this moment to Democrats’ past wilderness years of 2004 and 2016. During both of those cycles, the party shifted quickly from panic into organized opposition to unpopular Republican domestic policies: After 2004 it was the privatization of elements of Social Security, while the 2016 election saw the GOP get fatally tangled in attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

I asked Tanden, at my colleague David Weigel’s suggestion, whether CAP would produce a “Project 2029,” a hypothetical Democratic version of the conservative agenda that Trump disavowed but ended up mirroring and shaping his administration’s thinking.

She declined to slap a label on the project, but said she does see CAP’s role as building a party consensus on a new agenda, and a new tone.

“It’s important to have a spirit of reform,” she said. ”This is what progress is: It’s taking the problems you have and fixing them.

“We should be focused on solving problems for people — not on just defending the institutions,” she added.

But Tanden said she was still working through why her former boss Biden had failed so fully to persuade voters that his domestic agenda was helping them. The Democratic economist Jason Furman, a former top Obama aide, has argued that “Bidenomics” simply fell short, but Tanden rejected that.

“I don’t think Bidenomics failed in doing the things it said it would do. It created very low unemployment. It took a while, but it created wage increases,” she said. “We have to really understand as a party why a program that spent hundreds of billions of dollars for investments in jobs for people [of whom] 70% don’t have a college degree — why that didn’t resonate at all.

“I don’t know if it’s that we didn’t communicate it, or people didn’t care,” she said.

As Trump offers a dramatically different vision of slashed government spending, understanding that failure to resonate might help Democrats climb out of the hole. Or Perhaps that’s a problem that Democrats, now in opposition, won’t have to solve.

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A Leading Anti-Trump Voice Returns to Democrats’ Top Think Tank
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Reid J. Epstein
2025-02-20 18:03:43GMT
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Neera Tanden, who has served on Democratic presidential campaigns dating to 1988, was announced on Thursday as the chief executive of the Center for American Progress. Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Times

Neera Tanden, a longtime fixture of Democratic politics in Washington, is taking back her old post leading the party’s top think tank, where she served as one of President Trump’s most energetic and vocal antagonists during his first term.

The group, the Center for American Progress, announced on Thursday that Ms. Tanden would return as its chief executive. Since its founding more than two decades ago, the center, which is based in Washington, has served as a locus of Democratic opposition whenever Republicans have held the White House.

Ms. Tanden takes over the organization at a moment when many Democratic donors are withholding contributions, party leaders are struggling to develop a coherent message and no obvious figures have emerged to lead the pushback to Mr. Trump.

Now, Ms. Tanden said, is the time for Democrats to not just fight back against Mr. Trump but also offer ideas of their own before the 2026 midterm elections and the 2028 presidential contest.

“We should have reflection for sure, but a level of self-doubt that basically puts people in catatonic positions is not helpful in a moment where Trump is threatening this level of harm to millions upon millions of Americans,” she said in an interview on Wednesday. “A critical purpose of the Center for American Progress is to develop an alternative, not just a critique.”

Ms. Tanden has served on Democratic presidential campaigns dating to 1988, when she volunteered for Michael Dukakis. She was a dogged aide to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama — roles in which she was often at odds with more progressive Democrats — before becoming the Center for American Progress’s president in 2017. From that perch, she helped lead the Democratic fight to preserve Mr. Obama’s signature health care law and was among the party’s leading voices of anti-Trump resistance.

Her proclivity for expressing unvarnished opinions online about Republicans helped sink her nomination to serve as the director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

She called Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, “the worst,” and to Senator Lisa Murkowski, Republican of Alaska, she wrote that “you’re high on your own supply.” At the time, Ms. Tanden apologized, but that was not sufficient to maintain support from Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, who doomed her nomination when he announced he would not support her.

Mr. Biden subsequently made Ms. Tanden a senior adviser, and later his staff secretary and director of the Domestic Policy Council, key White House positions that did not require Senate confirmation.

These days, her social media presence consists mostly of reposts of others on X and Bluesky.

“I’m still going to tweet,” Ms. Tanden said in the interview on Wednesday, “but less.”

She is returning to C.A.P. alongside its founder, John Podesta, who was Mr. Biden’s global representative on climate. Mr. Podesta was recently named chairman of the group’s board. Patrick Gaspard, who has been serving as the organization’s president, will shift to a senior adviser position.

C.A.P. is one of several liberal groups plagued by financial troubles in the early days of the Trump administration. This month, the center laid off 22 employees, a cut of about 8 percent of its staff. Ms. Tanden said she was confident that there would not be additional layoffs.

Ms. Tanden said it was important for Democrats to remember that while the current political moment might feel extreme and dire, it was not unprecedented.

“We have been at moments — Trump’s first term, Bush’s second term — where people were like, ‘Democrats are in the wilderness, and they don’t have a response, and the country is radically changed,’” she said. “We have to get up, dust ourselves off, criticize what we think is wrong and offer better alternatives.

“There is a competition for ideas, and maybe some of Trump’s strength is, if we’re not solving a problem, he will offer a radical solution,” she continued. “And that just makes it more incumbent upon us to offer solutions.”
 
I just wanna know if anyone else is experiencing this, because it seems like it's not an isolated incident even in my personal life.
i have experienced it in multiple online circles i'm a part of that have leftists in the space, though it's mostly leftists getting more and more depressed and dejected with every new thing rather than getting vicious.
 
I'm curious if you guys are experiencing the same thing I am, or if this is a more anecdotal experience for me.

Ever since the inauguration, anyone I know who is remotely left leaning has turned a complete fucking politisperg. It was slow at first, maybe a comment every few days through January. Now it's reaching a fever pitch. Multiple times a day they have to sperg and rant about how much they hate dumpf.

This is across multiple unrelated social circles, both professional and personal. In all these groups there was always an understanding (or so I thought) that there are people with different politics and we should be respectful of that. The last four years the conservatives have remained cordial, but barely a month into Trump's term and the libshits across the board have turned into giant raging cunts. Constant whining, constant overt jabs at the other side (knowing they are present), and just being insufferably whiny.

I'm all ready at my ropes end with some of these fuckers, I'm about ready to go nuclear and start cutting people off if they can't even attempt to maintain a modicum of the decorum we did for them.

I just wanna know if anyone else is experiencing this, because it seems like it's not an isolated incident even in my personal life.
I work with a dude from El Salvador who’s all like “Trump is a racist.”

It usually goes as far as “idk man, but he doesn’t want to cut your sons dick off”

This is our detente
 
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1892740366052323482 PANIC: Attorney General Pam Bondi reveals imminent release of the Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy lists: “I was just briefed on this topic. There are LOTS of documents. LOTS of documents. Stay tuned. We are keeping this promise.” It’s Happening.

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Donald's Wild Ride has so many twists and turns, man, wtf
 
I'm curious if you guys are experiencing the same thing I am, or if this is a more anecdotal experience for me.

Ever since the inauguration, anyone I know who is remotely left leaning has turned a complete fucking politisperg. It was slow at first, maybe a comment every few days through January. Now it's reaching a fever pitch. Multiple times a day they have to sperg and rant about how much they hate dumpf.

This is across multiple unrelated social circles, both professional and personal. In all these groups there was always an understanding (or so I thought) that there are people with different politics and we should be respectful of that. The last four years the conservatives have remained cordial, but barely a month into Trump's term and the libshits across the board have turned into giant raging cunts. Constant whining, constant overt jabs at the other side (knowing they are present), and just being insufferably whiny.

I'm all ready at my ropes end with some of these fuckers, I'm about ready to go nuclear and start cutting people off if they can't even attempt to maintain a modicum of the decorum we did for them.

I just wanna know if anyone else is experiencing this, because it seems like it's not an isolated incident even in my personal life.
this is just 2016 again
 
I'm curious if you guys are experiencing the same thing I am, or if this is a more anecdotal experience for me.
IRL the only politics that ever come up are border related. Leftists I know in real life seem fine with sane border laws. It’s only Reddit commies that seem hyper into open borders. I believe CBS ran a poll and something like 70-80 percent of viewers were fine with deportations.
 
Jewish Billionaire Pritzker is really pushing hard.

In blue Illinois, most voters seeing red over Trump, Musk — and what they’re doing, Pritzker poll finds
Chicago Sun-Times (archive.ph)
By Tina Sfondeles
2025-02-20 20:38:44GMT

The release of the poll by Pritzker’s team shows the Democratic governor is prepared for a political fight ahead — both in terms of a potential third term for governor, or a 2028 presidential bid.
A new Illinois poll commissioned by Democratic Gov. JB Pritzker finds President Donald Trump and his cost-cutting czar Elon Musk’s early administration actions aren’t exactly popular.

A Global Strategy Group poll of 800 “likely 2026 voters” conducted Feb. 5-9 found more than 50% of those surveyed called Trump’s actions “extremely concerning.”

Of those polled, 56% viewed Trump unfavorably, including 49% who held very unfavorable opinions. For Musk, it was 56% unfavorable, with 50% dubbing their views very unfavorable. Democrats were the most negative on Musk and Trump, but independents viewed both unfavorably as well.

A party-line split was evident in the poll, with 90% of Republican voters saying they approved of Trump, and 83% saying they approved of Musk. Among independents, 40% approved of Trump, and 38% approved of Musk.

The poll also delved into some of Trump and Musk’s actions, with 57% of those polled calling any move to end an initiative to lower the cost of prescription drugs “extremely concerning.” Among the most concerning topics to those polled were eliminating government programs, including health care, Meals on Wheels and child care; eliminating all members of the Aviation Safety Board; pardoning all the Jan. 6 rioters, and eliminating the Department of Education.

The release of the poll by Pritzker’s team shows the Democratic governor is prepared for a political fight ahead — both in terms of a potential third term for governor, or a 2028 presidential bid.

Pritzker has been criticizing Trump since his first gubernatorial campaign began in 2017. But now he’s aiming his ire at Musk as well — and has frequently railed against the world’s richest man at Illinois news conferences.

At a Wednesday briefing at the Illinois State Capitol, Pritzker blamed Musk for the unpredictability of federal funding and its effects on the state budget. And he used a collective “we” when talking about Trump and his billionaire adviser.

“We don’t know what they’re going to do. And you’ve seen that. You know, Elon Musk comes out with tweets about Social Security that turned out to be completely false,” Pritzker said. “We don’t know what they’re going to do. We don’t know whether they’re going to cut off the Medicaid expansion across the country. They’ve been hearing from Republican governors, just like they have from Democratic governors about the negative impact on the people of their state.”

Despite the poll’s negative approval rating for Trump, the Republican president’s statewide vote grew to 43.8% last year, up from 38.76% in 2016.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
 
this is just 2016 again
Not for me, 2016 was tame compared to this. Maybe it's just that my people have changed, but they're losing their fucking minds this round.

i have experienced it in multiple online circles i'm a part of that have leftists in the space, though it's mostly leftists getting more and more depressed and dejected with every new thing rather than getting vicious.
Less depressed in my case, and more unhinged frothing at the mouth.

IRL the only politics that ever come up are border related. Leftists I know in real life seem fine with sane border laws. It’s only Reddit commies that seem hyper into open borders. I believe CBS ran a poll and something like 70-80 percent of viewers were fine with deportations.
I'm envious.

Seems like I'm the odd one out here, good to know.
 
God, I hope they're able to get something about term limits passed. Maybe something about age too, 'cause a lot of these geriatrics need to be put out to pasture.

Ever since the inauguration, anyone I know who is remotely left leaning has turned a complete fucking politisperg. It was slow at first, maybe a comment every few days through January. Now it's reaching a fever pitch. Multiple times a day they have to sperg and rant about how much they hate dumpf.

Nope. It's not just you. Where I am, everyone's freaking out and panicking over the big bad orange man taking their gibs away. It's even worse in the Bible Belt where most view him as the Antichrist, and the end time is nigh.

It's honestly kind of tiresome.
 
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