Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Teazel]

all this effort just to still be instantly recognizable as a male with that fuckass hairline

My first reaction was, "ain't no way that's a woman's leg". It's so delusional to think that a wig and a dress can change their sex characteristics when it makes itself apparent in every part of our body. If you spent your whole life believing you were the opposite sex, you'd think you would know what that looks like.

 

[LongDayAgain]

The erasure of the tomboy in favour of the pooner is legitimately an international tragedy.

 

[SweetieMouse]

Can a medfag please explain why so many 'ditches get that scalloped look around the edges of the "labia" (more like labi-ain't amiright)? It's like fuckin ravioli.

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Is it because SRS butchers give no shits about making neat sutures? Or something with the healing process?

I'm a medfag so I'll have a go at answering this:
1. The histology (microscopic structure) of the scrotum is very different from the female labia. Think about how your balls feel on your skin compared to the labia of a lady friend. It's not just different on a microscopic scale, but you can feel the difference with your own hands (macroscopic structure).
2. The labia majora and scrotum are homologous structures. As in, they both have the same embryological origin during fetal development: the labioscrotal fold. This is what trannies use to justify their rearranged scrotums as being real labias. However, just because something has the same embryological origin doesn't mean it's the same thing, as I'm about to explain by diving deeper in the histology.
3. As a precursor, you need to know that there's two layers when we talk about this. Press the skin on your arm. The top layer is the epidermis, there is no blood vessels or anything else on that very thin top layer that you see (other than openings for sweat glands and hair follicles). Underneath it is the dermis, which is rich in sensory receptors, blood vessels, etc. Skin = epidermis + dermis. Underneath that is an even deeper layer called the subcutaneous tissue. Your skin and subcutaneous tissue vary widely depending on the area of the body. Your palms have a very thick, hairless skin, while your eyelids are very thin.

With that in mind, let's check out the differences:

Organ	Skin	Subcutaneous Tissue
Scrotum	thin, delicate, sebaceous glands, sweat glands, more smooth muscle fibers to allow reflexive contraction/relaxation in response to temperature (to keep sperm viable)	loose connective tissue with lots of collagen fiber, almost no fat cells (don't want the balls to be too warm, fat is insulating)
Labia Majora	thick, sebaceous and sweat glands	lots of fat for cushioning

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Now let's answer your question of why so many 'ditches get that scalloped look around the edges of the "labia" making them look like ravioli:
1. The labia in ditches is made of scrotal skin so let's refer to the information you now know to explain the disgusting puckering present in stinkditches. Loose connective tissue heals by using collagen in a disorganized manner. This is what can lead to keloids (scarring that is not flat and builds up beyond the boundaries of what was previously normal). Keloids are also more likely to form under tension, which is what happens when the surgeon cuts the balls open and lays them flat across the groin and sews them down. Keloids are also caused by an excess of collagen (the scrotum has a lot of collagen fiber-- its intercellular matrix is dominated by it). Furthermore, the large open wound and trauma to the body causes an immense immune response, upon which lots of fibroblasts are released, which throw even more collagen at the wound. You usually only need 1 of the aforementioned factors to get a keloid scar, but in this scenario there's 4 factors at play, a quadruple whammy that will lead to that type of scarring regardless of surgical skill.
2. Natural labias have adipose tissue, making them plump, soft, and squishy (I don't know how to explain this any better). Scrotal pseudolabias do not have this adipose layer, which makes them look even more abnormal and causes a gap. The skin in the female labia is filled with the fat, making it taut, while the scrotum, when sewed down, doesn't have this "filling" (imagine a teddy bear with lots of stuffing versus a bear with minimal stuffing-- the filled bear will be plump while the other one will be deflated). When the surgeons stitch the scrotum down, they are sewing down an empty sac, which is what leads to the "ravioli" appearance. After all, ravioli is also a pocket/sac.
3. The surgeons who do these surgeries are morally corrupt. They know the results will be horrible and they don't care because they're getting a good payday. Most of these surgeons are careless on purpose. However, for the reasons I already described, EVEN IF A SURGEON REALLY TRIES TO HAVE A GOOD RESULT, there are just too many anatomical and physiological factors that combine to create grotesque final results.

 

[LongDayAgain]

@SweetieMouse
As a doctor, are you allowed to object to troon ‘healthcare’? Like, are you forced to prescribe them HRT or affirm their delusions?

 

[Mad_Dog]

Spoiler: It's a video, which makes it even more repulsive!

I'm suing you for the irreversible damage you've caused to my psyche with that strangely hypnotic video

 

[SweetieMouse]

@SweetieMouse
As a doctor, are you allowed to object to troon ‘healthcare’? Like, are you forced to prescribe them HRT or affirm their delusions?

That honestly just depends on which country you practice in. In some countries doctors are forced to comply or else they risk being sued or fired or having their licenses taken away. In others they have more freedom to kick certain patients out. It also depends on whether you're operating in a private clinic vs a public one, and how much authority you have there.

Spoiler: Tangent

While a lot of doctors in certain countries may feel forced to comply, a lot of times they comply for other reasons (eg. financial gains, particularly by earning commissions on prescribing certain medications).
Gender BS is NOT taught in medical schools (it might be taught at some schools now but I can confidently say it's not taught in 95%+ of them worldwide). That is part of a sociology curriculum and has no place in a medical curriculum. In my field everyone uses male, female, man, woman interchangeably. So you might wonder why there's a lot of doctors who are helping people troon out if they don't even believe in this stuff. It basically boils down to: money, ulterior motives, or ignorance. A lot of doctors just kinda do stuff because it's being done. At some point they're told that there's scientific papers confirming transgenderism and that psychology researchers say that giving them hormones and surgeries is the way to deal with it, so that's how they deal with it. While other doctors are trying to capitalize on the new gold rush.
So the issue is definitely more nuanced than all doctors being forced and it's more nuanced than all doctors being malicious. Some are forced, some aren't, some are strongly against it, some are for it (again, for varying reasons).

Me personally? I think I've made my stance pretty clear here about how I feel about troons but unfortunately it doesn't translate to real life. I'm too scared of losing my license and pander to these people and act like they're heckin valid all the time. That probably makes me a hypocrite but I have a lot on the line. On top of that, I have this feminine disposition where I'm too scared to outwardly disagree with a TIM because I don't want him to chimp out at me and cause me harm. It's a lot easier for me to invalidate TIFs because they're women but I'm hesitant to stand up to a hulking man in a dress.

Oh and funny thing, I'm aware of their psychiatric histories. It's almost always cluster B. One pooned out not long after her NPD diagnosis and one skinwalker has a BPD diagnosis but instead of going for DBT sessions he just pops titty skittles. I'm assuming the estrogen is probably exacerbating his BPD, hence the recent suicide attempt he was admitted for.

 

[Hubelublub]

My first reaction was, "ain't no way that's a woman's leg". It's so delusional to think that a wig and a dress can change their sex characteristics when it makes itself apparent in every part of our body. If you spent your whole life believing you were the opposite sex, you'd think you would know what that looks like.

Nothing about this splayed torso looks female, even without the dick.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

I'm suing you for the irreversible damage you've caused to my psyche with that strangely hypnotic video

That slo mo really did it for me

 

[Procrastinhater]

No, Elephant Dick goes under another Reddit username: unapologetictransguy and she has not detransitioned; she's doubling down and pursuing an armbar rotdog to replace the Cetrulo one. We're eagerly awaiting photographic evidence, but Elephant Alivia was badly spooked by her doxing here at the 'Farms, so she might have improved her op-sec.

Thats it. Ive seen Xeroform22 around, the Cetrulo shoutout made me think it was ElephantDick, couldn't remember what she changed it to after Crylophosaurus.

 

[Treasure Champs]

u/Girl_parts is on day 22. To be fair, it does look better. There's still a hole in it tho. One insane Hon had this to say:



As if we didn't already know that standards for this surgery are buried below the ground somewhere in hell.

Spoiler: Day 22

Meanwhile over in Eastern Europe another troon is worried about his hacked-up whatever this is. The Polak at least has the good sense to be worried about it:



He has taken a number of pictures of this monstrosity, none of which are any more enlightening than the last.

Spoiler: All the pics!

Finally, this is a new one. Some dumb Hon has fucked up his skull.

 

[fitty tucker]

Perhaps that giant flap of detached bone on the right (his left) side of his nose is contributing to this mysterious pain??

 

[Mad_Dog]

Finally, this is a new one. Some dumb Hon has fucked up his skull.

literal demon skull holy shit

 

[Elderly beef taco]

I know the skull can heal from injuries, but having so many near the sinus... i feel the bleeding might be something worse.
Also, saying "issues with my head area" to describe that is hilariously grim. Buddy, it looks like someone took a cheese grater to your face.

 

[Feels Badman]

@SweetieMouse I know this is probably a callous take, because most people think it's a doctor's responsibility to always do what's best for their patients. However, I think trans-identified patients are an exception to this rule, since they're actively participating in creating an environment in which a doctor who attempts to preserve their physical/mental health would be barred from practicing medicine. The majority of patients you can help while having a license, who are willing to be helped, are more important than the minority who would try to take your license for helping. It's as if we lived in a world where junkies could force you to prescribe heroin, and take your license for giving them narcan. I don't think anyone could blame you for just letting them OD under those circumstances.

I still think that becoming a surgeon who does SRS is morally abhorrent, since they're actively profiting from this state of affairs and perpetuating it, rather than just trying to preserve their ability to practice medicine.

 

[Magic Pickle]

I'm too scared of losing my license and pander to these people and act like they're heckin valid all the time. That probably makes me a hypocrite but I have a lot on the line.

Spoiler: Tiny PL.

It's just easier to not challenge a lot of them; they are very, very volatile, sensitive patients and are essentially walking timebombs. Even if you want to save them from themselves, the best place for activism, as it turns out, is not always buried in EMRs - even if it feels hypocritical. My sympathies.

Anyway: enjoy a RFF phalloplasty from Bluebond-Langner. Her procedure was back in October.
https://www.reddit.com/user/hornee_ftm/
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Spoiler: 6” in length and 4.75-5” in girth, per her own report.

 

[Otterly]

Finally, this is a new one. Some dumb Hon has fucked up his skull.

Whatever they did to his forehead and brow looks bad. There shouldn’t be holes through it like that. His frontal sinuses are open to the soft tissue and that’s a quick way yo be in huge pain. Looks like the maxillary sinuses are fucked up too. He’s lucky he didn’t speed run meningitis

Perhaps that giant flap of detached bone on the right (his left) side of his nose is contributing to this mysterious pain??

And also that. Ffs seems to stand for for fucks sake…

 

[Procrastinhater]

I'm too scared of losing my license and pander to these people and act like they're heckin valid all the time. That probably makes me a hypocrite but I have a lot on the line. On top of that, I have this feminine disposition where I'm too scared to outwardly disagree with a TIM because I don't want him to chimp out at me and cause me harm. It's a lot easier for me to invalidate TIFs because they're women but I'm hesitant to stand up to a hulking man in a dress.

The tide is turning rapidly and the Cult is losing the power it had. No shame in keeping your head down in the meantime if your livihood depends on it.
This bullshit is on its way out. The most useful thing you can do right now is make a note of the people who were most active in pushing this filth, names, places, dates.
This shit could be important if these bastards are finally brought to justice.
Otherwise no point risking your financial or personal safety in the meantime.

 

[JohnnyG]

I'm too scared of losing my license and pander to these people and act like they're heckin valid all the time.

The majority of patients you can help while having a license, who are willing to be helped, are more important than the minority who would try to take your license for helping.

The tide is turning rapidly and the Cult is losing the power it had. No shame in keeping your head down in the meantime if your livihood depends on it.
This bullshit is on its way out.

I hope that the broader culture is waking up to the horrors of this ideology, and that the pendulum swings back hard, and I think Trump's early EOs and the change in leadership is a strong start.

But it would be naive to assume the monster is dead. Entire institutions are infested with people who've made explicit policies around celebrating and enabling this stuff, and that will take concerted effort and energy to root out. Even as companies are backing away from their DEI policies, they're still forcing employees to take annual pronoun training, and their spiteful HR departments would happily fire you for "misgendering".

There are JCLU lawyers and Prog (NGOs) lining up to throw sand in the gears of every EO and policy shift. Entire faculties & staffs of Medical, Law, and Business schools churning out the next generation of activist midwits. And troons so revved up on social media they see themselves as the next Rosa Parks Looter Kang freedom fighters, so it may be even more dangerous now (physically & career-wise) to be a non-affirming doc or other provider.

I don't say this to blackpill, and I'm quite optimistic, there's just a ton of cancer to excise, and I wouldn't want anyone on our side to fall victim to a flailing beast before it's finally defeated.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Meanwhile over in Eastern Europe another troon is worried about his hacked-up whatever this is. The Polak at least has the good sense to be worried about it

Yet another example of the European jobs looking even worse than elsewhere’s. I swear that with many of the American ones in this thread, the main issue is wound separation or necrotic tissue. Meanwhile the European ones almost always look like the surgeon decided to chop off bits and stitch (or staple) them back on wherever they felt like it (before it all fell apart and rotted (or ruptured, like that Dutch pooner) anyway).

None look great, of course. But many of the European ones in this thread make Rumer et al look like they actually tried, I guess?

Finally, this is a new one. Some dumb Hon has fucked up his skull.

“I’m experiencing pain and nasal bleeding and my face may collapse on itself soon due to my poor decision making! Can I get some words of affirmation and care, please and thank you?”

You can’t make this shit up

 

[Free the Pedos]

Entire institutions are infested with people who've made explicit policies around celebrating and enabling this stuff, and that will take concerted effort and energy to root out.

That is true, but I think a surprising number of these people will back down as soon as it becomes unfashionable or threatens their livelihood.