2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

I have a surgeon friend, and he told me that the fact that it took them THIS long to identify the children (over 12 hrs) means they were grossly mutilated.
They’ve been dead for over a year in conditions that probably aren’t optimized for corpse perseveration. I can’t imagine they were in great condition. Besides, wouldn’t they have just done a DNA test on the remains with the father?
 
They’ve been dead for over a year in conditions that probably aren’t optimized for corpse perseveration. I can’t imagine they were in great condition. Besides, wouldn’t they have just done a DNA test on the remains with the father?
Dumb and awful question, but how are they preserving the bodies? Meat locker? Mummification? I know A Pallywog decapitated one man and kept the head in his kitchen freezer and tried to sell it for $10,000.

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I have a surgeon friend, and he told me that the fact that it took them THIS long to identify the children (over 12 hrs) means they were grossly mutilated.
An infant without teeth doesn’t even have dental records. What I’ve been told by contacts in Israel is that they were shot at point-blank range. Who knows? I normally don’t like such details being made public fodder, knowing how these savages get off on their wicked handiwork. (They’re like trannies and other degenerates who need you to be disgusted by their perversion in order to enjoy themselves.) But in this case I think every detail should be disclosed, so people can know for sure we are dealing with subhuman scum with whom no peace will ever be possible.
 
Watching the videos from their dead kid parade it's clear that there is no difference between hamas and the people of Gaza. They're one and the same.
In fact the Bibas family was attacked by “ordinary” civilians, not Hamas. Shiri’s parents were slaughtered and the rest of the family taken hostage by Gazan nobodies.
 
They were hiding in a safe room when Palestinian civilians came to Nir Oz to loot after it had been attacked. They used power tools to open the door and dragged a mother and her babies out and tormented her as she held her children.
They kidnapped the family into Gaza where they were sold to the highest bidding Jihadist.

I used to believe in the two state solution, heck, I used to think Israel was the problem in the region. 502 days later, and G-d was I wrong. You can't reform these people, you can't give them a little else they'll steal and rape the rest. You can't bargain with monsters who execute children for the crime of being Jewish. My heart aches for Yarden. This must be killing him.
 
I just hope Israel channels all of this fury into doing what needs to be done, once and for all. The world won’t thank them for doing it, but they should.
No, Israeli media goes full on blaming the Bibi administration.
* They don't blame the military intelligence for missing the organisation.
* They don't blame the courts for binding the army in what it can do to defend the border.
* They don't blame the journos and NGOs for promoting the idea of pacifism and accepting Hamas.
* They even stopped blaming Hamas because there's no political benefit in it.

It's just so tiring. Nothing is going to change besides building some monuments. The only good from this war is Syria becoming a way smaller threat. We've released over a thousand terrorists who will kill 10 times the amount of hostages that were released, and will justify future attacks since at worst Israel will release them a year later.

It's the horrifying eternal status quo that the world sunk into. Nothing is allowed to change, we have to let murderers have their time and tools to kill us because we are the monsters for preventing it.
 
They kidnapped the family into Gaza where they were sold to the highest bidding Jihadist.
Speaking of Muslims selling women and children to other Muslims, there was that story a few months ago of a Yazidi woman found in Gaza. She had been trafficked there by Isis and was only discovered because her captor was killed in an airstrike. Makes you wonder about the body Hamas tried to pass off as Shiri, and who that person may have been.
No, Israeli media goes full on blaming the Bibi administration.
It's just so tiring. Nothing is going to change besides building some monuments. The only good from this war is Syria becoming a way smaller threat. We've released over a thousand terrorists who will kill 10 times the amount of hostages that were released, and will justify future attacks since at worst Israel will release them a year later.
A lot of the articles that I've read on this are saying that even for Israelis and what they have become accustomed to putting up with, the murder of the Bibas children, and subsequent parading of their caskets to music and dancing, was shocking. Combine that with Hamas pulling a sleight of hand with the mother's body, and I can't see how the status quo can go on. I understand why Israel was holding back while Biden was in office, but now that Trump is president and has strongly signaled that he'll let them do what they need to do, why not just end this? Again, I'm not Israeli and am thinking about this from a very American perspective I'm sure, so I would genuinely like to hear the thoughts of any Israelis ITT, because this situation seems like an unprecedented level of shocking.

I can't stop thinking about those poor children and their mother. As a mother of young children in the same age range as Shiri's, I had a visceral reaction to the video of her trying to shield her babies from that group of savages, and the fear and helplessness in her eyes. And given that the IDF is saying that the children were killed in November 2023, there's a really good chance that they were survived by their mother, even if she's now dead too. It's a horrifying thought. This should never have happened, but now that it has I hope that Israel finally cleans up.
 
Since day one, I’ve been telling anyone who will listen that since 10/7, we’ve witnessed so many miracles, it’s hard to count.

Some of these miracles are easy to recognize, like how well the beeper operation went down or how successful we were at intercepting or detonating those hundreds of drones and ballistic missiles fired at us from Iran. Twice.

Other miracles were harder to recognize.

And then we have last night.

Last night was a miracle the caliber of the splitting of the sea.

I am talking an open miracle that could and should have ended very differently.

Do not ask me for my source and if that means you don’t believe what I’m about to say, so be it. You can keep scrolling. But if you know my work, you know I’m very careful with what I share so if I’m sharing this, trust me, it’s based on a reliable source.

Last night, a young lady noticed a suspicious object on a bus in the center of Israel. She reported it to the driver who pulled into a station, got everyone off the bus, at which point, the bus blew up and was completely destroyed.

But that wasn’t the end of it. Not even close.

Over the hours that followed, an additional four bombs were discovered on busses, some of them exploded, others were taken apart before exploding. Some malfunctioned.

According to my source, and this was news to me, a whopping 15 busses were supposed to explode this morning. According to reports, the terrorist set the timer for 9 PM instead of 9 AM.

So is that the worst of it? Not even close.

In addition to the 15 busses, 5 suicide bombers were set to detonate bombs on the lightrail at the same time, all in the center of Israel.

So is that the worst? Nope. That’s the good part.

Where did this attack originate? Gaza? Nope. Judea and Samaria. In other words, these terrorists came from within Israel.

And here’s the kicker, and again, I am not telling you where I heard this, all of the above was intended to be nothing more than the distraction, much like the incoming rockets on 10/7. Just a distraction for the real invasion.
My source says that as those busses and terrorists blew up, massive security and emergency forces were supposed to rush to the scene at which point, there would be a massive breach of the security fence and many terrorists from Judea and Samaria would invade Israel and carry out a 10/7 2.0. Only this time it wouldn’t be from Gaza so it would be an invasion into basically every major city in Israel.

For the third time, this is not information that is publicly available. I can’t share a link and I won’t share a source. Believe me or don’t. Up to you.

It is worth pointing out that for decades, we did not have any bus explosions in Israel. We do this deal and release terrorists, some of whom were the architects behind the bus bombings during the intifada, and all of a sudden, we’re back to busses blowing up.
 
They were hiding in a safe room when Palestinian civilians came to Nir Oz to loot after it had been attacked. They used power tools to open the door and dragged a mother and her babies out and tormented her as she held her children.
They kidnapped the family into Gaza where they were sold to the highest bidding Jihadist.

I used to believe in the two state solution, heck, I used to think Israel was the problem in the region. 502 days later, and G-d was I wrong. You can't reform these people, you can't give them a little else they'll steal and rape the rest. You can't bargain with monsters who execute children for the crime of being Jewish. My heart aches for Yarden. This must be killing him.
Just to add, the terrorists also executed the family dog, Tonto
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I really wouldn't shed a tear if Israel decides that the war is back on after the latest stunts from the Palestinians.
They HAVE to. If this isn't an uncrossable line, what is? Is there nothing on earth that outweighs Gazans' welfare?

I'm fed up with hearing everything framed as, "Yes, Hamas is bad, but what about the Gazan civilians? They're human like anyone. They probably just want peace." Surely if there are thousands of Gazans who don't hate Jews and don't want to annihilate Israel, there must be SOME proof of their existence. Yet somehow there's less evidence for them than for bigfoot.

Did ANY Gazan do ANYTHING to obstruct Hamas's plans on Oct. 7? Think of how many Germans took actions, large or small, to obstruct the Holocaust. A very small percentage, but well more than zero. Hell, think of the handful of actual Nazi Party members who have won retroactive recognition for assisting Jews during the Holocaust -- again, not many, but more than zero. If it was possible for people under Nazi rule to fight the Holocaust, what makes it impossible for all those decent, good-hearted Gazans, of whose existence everyone keeps assuring me, to do anything about the continual savagery perpetrated in Gaza? For fuck's sake.
 
An infant without teeth doesn’t even have dental records. What I’ve been told by contacts in Israel is that they were shot at point-blank range. Who knows? I normally don’t like such details being made public fodder, knowing how these savages get off on their wicked handiwork. (They’re like trannies and other degenerates who need you to be disgusted by their perversion in order to enjoy themselves.) But in this case I think every detail should be disclosed, so people can know for sure we are dealing with subhuman scum with whom no peace will ever be possible.
Hagari says they were manually killed

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Everything I hear about Hamas makes me increasingly MATI, especially since I got a friend that’s Israeli. It’s not just that Hamas is hellbent on destroying their adversary, they also have to perform insane levels of psychological warfare and manipulation of emotions to accompany their actions.

I’ve heard it said that there can be no hope of peace as long as Hamas and other jihadists have power and influence, and I can believe that. And now I have to wonder if the citizens buy into Yahya Sinwar having the philosophy that every Palestinian is a soldier in the fight against Israel.

Also, what happened to Trump’s talk of “all Hell will break loose” if EVERY SINGLE HOSTAGE wasn’t released by a certain day and time. Well, that has come and gone, and now we have a literal baby and a small child who seems to have a lot of Batman shirts, along with their mother, have been killed by brutal means, seemingly just to drive the living father to kill himself out of grief and sorrow.

And no Hell has broken loose.

I feel like the way Israel has conducted itself over this entire conflict has left and continues to leave a lot to be desired.
 
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I feel like the way Israel has conducted itself over this entire conflict has left and continues to leave a lot to be desired.
At this point it's clear that the entirety of Palestine needs to be destroyed 100 times over leaving no one alive. It's either that or this shit continues forever. The poor Palestinian innocent civilians would torture, rape and kill any non Muslims across the globe if ever given the chance, and these are the people we're supposed to give a fuck about? Hell, they cheered in the streets when 9/11 happened. They're rabid animals that only resemble humans, and that's the truth of it.
 
They strangled the Biba boys to death. They designed special coffins to degrade them even in death.

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The coffins were made with special side handles so that they could be carried at foot level, unlike the usual coffins that we carry to bury martyrs and which are carried on the shoulders.

They mutilated the bodies to the point where even doctors who worked on Oct 7th victims were shocked.

Why is Hamas doing this? They aren't dumb. Why do they want such a harsh reaction?
 
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