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They are. The average IQ in Gaza is nearly 70, which means that only 2% of them have an IQ above 100 (2 sigma above the mean).
I think they want to die as martyrs to go to heaven.
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Napalm over Gaza is too good of a fate.
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Because 1. They hate Jews THAT FUCKING MUCH.
2. They get off on twisting the knife to torment the families of the hostages they took through psychological warfare and emotional manipulation. And
3. If Israel does anything but negotiate for a release on what I assume is their terms, they can go to the press and NGOs and the UN and paint themselves as the victims while their atrocities and rule breaking goes ignored. They really know the PR game.
Is there any real resistance to Hamas and the jihadists? Even in Nazi Germany and occupied countries, there were partisans and attempts to kill Hitler like Operation Valkyrie on July 20th, even if it wasn’t in the context of opposing the systematic killing of Jews.
It’s hard to see a silver lining in any of this if the people of Gaza are willing to go along with what Hamas is doing.
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Extremely so. On the poster they had behind them and the coffins, it was written in Arabic, Hebrew and English. More people in Palestine speak Russian than English, making it evident to me that they put that wording there because they know that the western audience are suckers for muzzies, that they've been blindly cheering on their terrorism, even the leftists won't admit they're antisemetic.
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Terrorism is just violence as a PR tactic. PR is all they know. The problem is PR only directly impacts socially constructed reality whereas Israeli bombs impact real reality. Palestine wins the PR war and loses the war to physically control the territory in question.
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PR is one thing, but how tf did they get a graphic designer, generate coherent copy, produce 15ft tall banners with crystal clear image quality, and have custom stands to go with them on short notice in Gaza of all places. Do they even have the infrastructure to produce something like that there, or did an NGO deliver?
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The father and living relatives provide dna.
I know you're some guy on the Internet (as am I) but IDF just confirmed that they were killed via hands (choking, beating, etc) and then the monsters tried to cover it up.
Don't call them subhuman it just allows them to excuse their actions. These are people who kill infants and children with their bare hands.
I agree. But remember these are people with agency they chose to kill these infants and children in this brutal manner. Never forget this was a choice. You don't wake up one day and decide to outright murder kids because of "oppression" it's a choice.
I'm frankly disgusted by this false dichotomy between Israelis/Jews killing of Children and what the Palestinians/Arabs do. When Israelis/ Jews kill children it's either a side effect of an overall operation (collateral damage from a targeted assassination/bombing or in the case of the Lebanese pager attack, a girl picked up a pager that was intended for her father- in short wrong place wrong time) or it's because the child was engaging in an act of violence against an Israeli/Jew (child soldiers, children sent out to do terror attacks etc). the one time that a Jewish/Israeli extremist kidnapped tortured and killed a Palestinian child ( look up Mohammad Abu Khdeir) not only was he arrested and currently is serving life in prison, but the Israeli government and people were disgusted by their actions, disavowed it, were going to put the child's name in the national memorial for victims of terrorism (The child's family rejected this). However, when the Palestinians/Arabs kill children and infants they celebrate it with the shows you see before you. This is a level of disgust that drives people to commit genocide. Frankly, the fact they couldn't quietly give up the bodies but in fact held a public ceremony/celebration and had children comes up and dance proves these people are beyond redemption. This is not like Iran where it's very clear that the people are going along with what the government says out of fear. These people fully support the torture and killing of Jews and Israelis. They celebrated 9/11. They invited the suicide bomber, airline hijacking and took hostages during the Olympics. They used Israel as an excuse to cause 9/11 and think they're untouchable. My anger is endless, and I'm beyond done with placating these people. Remember if you're Pro-Palestine you're pro killing of Children.
If anyone you meet says "the Israeli kill children too" put them in their place.
While I am 1000% in agreement we should make public the horrors that happened to the children, remember their father is still alive and should have the final say in what we/the world knows about the fate of them. It is his right.
Remember that Israel didn't invade all of Gaza, they left one area alone to create a "humanitarian zone" (aka: to placate the Biden administration and the faggots at the UN). Gaza is essentially an area around the size of Manhattan and is made up of around 5 cities. It's very possible that these children were kept on ice in morgues and the printing shops were still in some condition.
Also remember who pushes the "dancing Israelis" or "Israel did 9/11" it's not white people it's Arabs and Muslims. Because to other arabs and muslims they can never do anything wrong and if they do something wrong it's because of Jewish or Western or American influence.
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I still have my doubts about the so-called dead children lists. I simply don't believe that 50,000 people are dead. I wish Israel would offer a counter-toll. I think Bibi said something like 30k in May 2024. And it's so difficult to find a toll that makes sense, as all I can find are more ridiculous numbers and more nouns with "icide" at the end.
Every time I express doubt about Hamas' numbers, I'm a racist, and then the numbers will be an "undercount" because bodies are trapped under the rubble, and then I'm a genocide denier, and then usually something ad hominem about my hair. When outlets like the BBC and RTS are quoting from Hamas, it's so much harder to ask for an alternative without sounding like I'm David Duke.
At least Israel aren't aiming for kids. Do we protest the US military or the Kurds for the deaths of ISIS children? Jojo Jones, a 12-year-old, was drone-stricken by the UK after being taken by his mother to Syria. Did they block campuses for that? No, because the enemy wasn't Jews.
Psalms 20. We have 6 hostages coming home tomorrow, although according to Hamas’s past statements, the six are the last of those to be returned under the first phase who are alive.
Remaining hostages in Phase 1 list by category
Women
Shiri Bibas, 33
Men over 50
Tsachi Idan, 50
Ohad Yahalomi, 50
Itzik Elgarat, 70
Shlomo Mansour, 86 (m)
And another 6 men under 50 believed to be in need of urgent medical attention or released on humanitarian grounds.
Set to be released in Phase 2
Nattapong Pinta, 36Rom Braslavski, 21
Yosef-Chaim Ohana, 24
Nimrod Cohen, 20
Matan Angrest, 22
Ziv Berman, 27
Gali Berman, 27
Maxim Herkin, 36
Segev Kalfon, 27
Bipin Joshi, 24
Elkana Bohbut, 35
Alon Ohel, 24
Ariel Cunio, 27
Bar Kupershtien, 23
Guy Gilboa-Dalal, 23
Tal Shoham, 40
Eitan Horn, 38
Tamir Nimrodi, 20
Matan Zangauker, 25
Avinatan Or, 31
Omri Miran, 47
Eitan Mor, 24
Edan Alexander, 21
David Cunio, 34
Eyvatar David, 24
The following hostages have reportedly been murdered and expected to be returned in Phase 2
Amiram Cooper, 84 (m)
Inbar Hayman, 27 (m)
Asaf Hamami, 41 (m)
Eliyahu Margalit, 75 (m)
Uriel Baruch, 35 (m)
Tal Haimi, 41 (m)
Oz Daniel, 19 (m)
Tamir Adar, 38 (m)
Eitan Levy, 52 (m)
Ran Gvili, 24 (m)
Yonatan Samerano, 21 (m)
Yair Yaakov, 59 (m)
Ronen Engel, 54 (m)
Sahar Baruch, 35 (m)
Itay Chen, 19 (m)
Aviv Atzili, 49 (m)
Dror Or, 48 (m)
Muhammad Al-Atrash, 39 (m)
Gad Haggai, 72 (m)
Joshua Loitu Mollel, 21 (m)
Idan Shitvi, 28 (m)
Yossi Sharabi, 53 (m)
Arie Zalmanovich, 85 (m)
Daniel Peretz, 22 (m)
Guy Illouz, 26 (m)
Ofra Keidar, 70 (m)
Lior Rudaeff, 61 (m)
Judi Weinstein-Haggai, 70 (m)
Meny Godard, 73 (m)
Shay Levinson, 19 (m)
Ilan Weiss, 56 (m)
Hadar Goldin, 23 (m 2014)
Omer Neutra, 21 (m)
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It would be one thing if they just shot us. The Nazis shot us, the Russians shot us. But the psychological warfare, emotional manipulation and gaslighting is a whole other thing. The worst part is that it was clear at the start that biden wanted a hard response but his underlings made him stop because " muh upcoming election/we need to beat trump/ deh youth vote" and I'm getting annoyed that Trump hasn't sent in the US military to at least get the US civilians back.
The world regrets giving the Jews a state so they have to play these games to make it impossible for them to conduct affairs like a normal country. All this shit would end if the USA and Israel created a mutual defense treaty and frankly after they capture all the land in Gaza and Judea/Samaria they should.
Yes and no. If you're anti Jihadi/pro two state solution/pro peace (in the way it is supposed to mean where both sides go to the negotiation table and then both seek to implement the agreement) then no. You're killed or tortured to submission. But mainly killed. If you're anti-Hamas but pro "keep-killing-Jews-allahu-akbar-but-i'm-still-a-jihadist" then maybe if you stay out of Hamas' way.
But to answer your question....no that's why Mossad couldn't really penetrate the Gaza strip/Hamas when it comes to HUMNIT. You need loyal collaborators. Look at it this way, in Iran/Lebanon there are members of the IRGC/Hezbollah/government apparatuses that HATE their bosses/regime and are only their for the "perks of the job". This allows Mossad to recruit. You can't do that if everyone is a true believer. I'll give another example: Overall during WW2 (not talking about the late stage when everything was falling apart and people were trying to save their own asses) the OSS/MI6/NKVD were able to infiltrate and recruit Nazis from the wehrmacht, as they were drafted soldiers (primarily), or members of the old Weimar/ imperial German army. so they were allegiances and ideologies varied. the SS was near possible to infiltrate via HUMNIT this is because members of the SS and the SA were true. believers. Sinwar, after being freed from Israeli prison in a prisoner swap, purged the Hamas government of Gaza of people who were not ideologically pure. add in the fact that for 75 plus years, in addition to the 25 plus years of hamasu the Palestinian people have been taught by various ngos, the UN, Arabs, and their own political parties that violent warfare against Israel and the Jews is not just justified but warranted and a good thing.
it is important to remember that despite what many people in Europe would like to claim post world War II. a majority of the Jews were rounded up, not because the Nazis had such great information, but because of local collaborators who actively either engaged in killing Jews or pointing them out.
what's even crazier is that you had men like Albert Goering who actively worked to save Jews even though he would have prospered greatly from his position within the Nazi party due to the fact his brother was Herman Goering. I can find many Israelis who will publicly and actively fight against far-right Jewish extremism. they are a loud voice and a consistent voice, I cannot find a single Palestinian who lives within the West Bank or the Gaza strip. who will do the same for a Jew.
These people unironically cheer for your death for the only reason that you're not them. Remember when they scream intifadah oct 7 is what they mean.
Remember when Hamas invaded Israel they didn't just go after soldiers/government buildings/prisons/police stations/army bases/random people shooting at them. They purposely started massacring and committing war crimes against civilians. And it wasn't a one off thing. It was systematic. That's all you need to know about them. The fact that people can't see that they went after civilians is inexcusable.
That's why Israel isn't as left wing (when it comes to foreign policy) as it once was.
@Helvetia
I can't quote you cuz I'm phone posting but I'll say this: It is a proven fact that Hamas fucks with their numbers. 19 year old fighters are counted as civilians. people who die of work place accidents or natural causes or from Hamas friendly fire join the list of kids. That girl they parade around was recently discovered to have been killed in a car crash. I implore you to look up the UN definition of a genocide it's really short and is hard to meet (because if one meets it the global community is bound to act). Just because you claim something is a genocide doesn't mean it is. This shit has actual rules and definitions.
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The Palestinians are not hostages, they are prisoners responsible for mass murder.
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Remember when you use their vocabulary they win. Their vocabulary shapes the narrative in their favor.
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Many people disagree with this assessment, such as Norm Finklestein, hence why they call it a genocide. It also gives them, in their eyes, rights and reasons to protest to eternity.
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Then there shouldn’t be any reason to prevent Israel from sentencing the worst to death and carrying out their execution.
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Israel should make it if the prisoners they released as part of the deal get caught doing terrorism again they get an automatic death sentence.
Even better if the execution method is being boiled alive in bacon grease.
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Pretty sure trumps just gonna let Bibi go gloves off and it will be done probably in 2 weeks
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Hamas has acknowledged the mix up with Shiri Bibas, and have now handed her body over ( a ) to the Red Cross.
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Israel should refuse to hand over the unidentified body they received until all of the remaining hostages—alive and dead—have been returned; let the Gazans have a taste of their own medicine for once.
This thread from late November 2023 seems to have gotten it exactly right:
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There are reports that Israel has had credible intel for a while now that the family had been killed by manual strangulation, and their bodies mutilated with rocks to make it appear as though they had died in an airstrike. With the (presumed) return of Shiri, there will hopefully be some definitive proof soon.
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Israel should refuse to hand over the unidentified body they received until all of the remaining hostages—alive and dead—have been returned; let the Gazans have a taste of their own medicine for once.
This thread from late November 2023 seems to have gotten it exactly right:
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There are reports that Israel has had credible intel for a while now that the family had been killed by manual strangulation, and their bodies mutilated with rocks to make it appear as though they had died in an airstrike. With the (presumed) return of Shiri, there will hopefully be some definitive proof soon.
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It wasn’t a mixup and the body has not yet been identified. Please do not repeat Hamas PR messaging.
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I mean it's good yo remember that seven shades of fuck all Palestinians actually want a 2 state solution. It's a fantasy cooked up by western bleeding hearts
Palestinians want one state where the tolerannt palestinians just want Jews as an oppressed minority and the rest just simply want them wiped out.
Palestinians want one state where the tolerannt palestinians just want Jews as an oppressed minority and the rest just simply want them wiped out.
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Exactly zero of them want to coexist with Jews. Their only goal is all Jews dead and the Muslim caliphate made real.