General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

whatsupwthat said:
Imo Iori is finally getting some of the recognition she deserves, hopefully it continues throughout 2025 (altho i doubt it will). Runie is my definite prediction for who'll blow up next, seems like it always happens that one of the talents carries the rest of the gen like Shiina and Pippa. Jerry and Panko also seem to be promising.
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What's helped Iori is that she finally has some clippers, despite them showing the more crass side of her.

I agree with the Runie choice, if only because I see her collabing the most out of her gen
 
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Speaking of Iori and her clipper (who likes to use clickbait titles), does every girl in Phase have some story or clip related to vomit or puking? When Fishman interviews people, does he ask them to tell him something about themselves regarding vomit and puking, and then he hires those with the weirdest stories? Is this Sakana’s magic formula for scouting talents?
(Clip in question—title & thumbnail are obvious clickbait.)
 
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vestars20 said:
Unless you are going to want to learn about the Japanese side of vtubing and the general culture that comes from Hololive the answer is she has a nice voice. She's not promoted more or less then any other Holo, certainly not here. Holo is mostly "cute girls doing cute things".

If you want to learn about JP, can't get more general then Nijisanji and they are having a festival this weekend
https://fes.nijisanji.jp/2025/overseas-info/ The size of the exhibit is around the size of the White House
Easy to see who they attract as fans if you use the hashtag - #にじフェス2025

Feel free to look at their financials and general company structure to get an idea of how most vtubing companies in JP run
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material_for_fiscal_ym3/169910/00.pdf

Otherwise watch Phase Connect, they are popular around here and are an EN company with mostly EN vtubers. A lot of people like this one
Same channel has other clips. If you liked Iron Mouse for her singing and crude humor watch this one
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Kronii caught my attention because she kept getting recommended to me for some reason on YouTube. I'm not a VTube watcher outside of my foray a few years ago, but thumbnails featuring Kronii in particular (mostly clips) kept showing up so I started there, watching clips and then a few streams before also reviewing her peers.

Thanks for all the information. The financials/company structure was very helpful. The information was easy to follow and followed a natural logic. The Business Overview and proceeding sections do a good job of framing how they view their product.

The "Who is VTuber" section where they leverage what makes a VTuber distinct from an anime character/idol/YouTuber more or less correlates with my understanding though they are speaking in more idealistic terms (ideal vs execution). Though there are some distinctions between VTuber and anime character/idol/YouTuber there is still plenty of overlap. Seeing what they claim sets VTubers apart in a succinct way was useful.

I understand why Iron Mouse was/is popular, but she isn't really for me personally. I'll leave it at that for now. I will look into your recommendations though as another reference point (and maybe better understand this thread).

Forte said:
If you are asking why people like her, a lot of it has to do with what a flawed person she is. She can get very OCD in blick game, her power wash streams are stream of consciousness that go really weird places, and she fluctuates between "I got this!" and "I'm going to kill myself". Basically, she's pretty fucking funny. Very girl failure combined with a deadpan Daria-esque outlook on life and speech pattern. She has one of the biggest cases of gap moe between what you expect her to be like and how she really is.

She's a natural comedian by just existing:
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An interesting perspective. The clip you selected more or less demonstrates what I've seen, which is generally speaking a low-energy, awkward, and subtle demeanor resulting in a more contextual kind of humor or appeal.

The accounts in the video are cute, but more comedic if you already know and like Kronii (which her friends and fans do). For example, if someone told me how they stacked pillows on a tired friend's back or how their friend silently didn't finish eating because they didn't like the food then I might laugh along politely. If the story was about a mutual friend then I might be more invested in a "Oh, that is so like [friend's name]" sort of way. Essentially, people like this tend to appear naturally comedic to the people who already know and like them.

This helps explain some of why Kronii's appeal wasn't readily apparent. To be clear, I'm not saying Kronii isn't funny/appealing, just that she expresses it in her own way with her friends and fans. Thanks for taking the time to explain (and for posting an example).
 
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PixelLink is fucking dead.
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Talents retaining the IP:
  • Kanna Yagani
  • Raki Kazuki
  • Chiaki Katsumi
Talents returning to their old IP:
  • Lottie Shinju
  • Miuna Usako
  • Arisu Oshiro
  • Daiya Fortuna
  • Chio Chompi (sorry dinobros)
 
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RhoasJonas said:
Her first mistake was committing to the US tree, but War Thunder invites giga backseating and people getting angry for her not playing well, which is what happened. (Though going into a tubers chat expecting good gameplay is a litmus test itself).
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She should have picked the Yak-38, much more seething from autists.
 
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RhoasJonas said:
PixelLink is fucking dead.
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Talents retaining the IP:
  • Kanna Yagani
  • Raki Kazuki
  • Chiaki Katsumi
Talents returning to their old IP:
  • Lottie Shinju
  • Miuna Usako
  • Arisu Oshiro
  • Daiya Fortuna
  • Chio Chompi (sorry dinobros)
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I love Phase Connect but I'm really tired of Fishman shining like a bright beacon in a grave yard of dead companies. Here's hoping Pippa can colab with her sister one last time before she's swept into the trash bin of history.

Little brother Aoi found out.
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In sillier/happier news, Pippa is building bridges.
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Haven't been active enough on the forum to shill my favorite 2 view before she goes:
Around 24 minutes in she hints that she might reincarnate as another character but much later she says she is far too busy with IRL stuff to continue vtubing. I think she was just keeping the door open for when she has more time years down the line rather than reincarnating into a corpo. Her last stream will be next Tuesday.
Speaking of my favorite talents graduating
Looks like Pixel Link will be shutting down at the endof March due to the CEO having health complications. Kanna, Raki and Chiaki will be keeping their models but the rest will be going back to their indie accounts.

I know she's just going to reincarnate as Lazuli but the loss of the Lottie model is a real shame. Not to mention the fact that it's only February and already 3 of my favorite vtuber have/are graduating.
In more postive news Grimmi is starting a marathon sometime today, not sure what time though. I don't know how much I'll be able to catch but I've been enjoying her promo videos:
 
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Two-bit said:
This started because Koefficient, vtuber orbitor, went onto Cox's stream and explained what vtubers and Hololive was. Koe specifically mentioned Ollie because Jesse wanted to interview one the girls on his podcast. So that's how this all happened. I'm surprised Cover gave the go ahead for the interview.

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But when does Kirsche go on Joe Rogan to talk about sounding and bug fucking?
 
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I did not watch any of Kanna when she was the cat, but I think her duck model is much better. Glad she's hanging onto it and not going anywhere.
 
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mandatorylurk said:
PixelLink seemed like they were doing well, their talents had decent numbers. But then I see that Raki needs $10,000 dollars to buy her IP from the company when the company should just write it off and give it to the talents, especially when they're the ones winding down the company.

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Ten thousand? They're full of it. That IP is going to rot without her. The girl is the talent. I absolutely agree they should do it lower. They're fooling themselves.
Ralph Barnhardt said:
In sillier/happier news, Pippa is building bridges.
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The new Dennis Rodmann to North Korea
Miller said:
If TB didn't have cancer I think he would have joined their side of the gayming/political spectrum.
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Yes.
 
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