Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[Neodanthril]

it is astounding how much of the right wing sphere is just twitter drama these days. that was always apart of it since the alt right days but now thats just all there is. trs is a great example of this but its across the board. all wignats want to do is be on twitter, talk about twitter, or bitch about being banned from twitter. completely brain broken people

 

[Rick Nekieta]

it is astounding how much of the right wing sphere is just twitter drama these days. that was always apart of it since the alt right days but now thats just all there is. trs is a great example of this but its across the board. all wignats want to do is be on twitter, talk about twitter, or bitch about being banned from twitter. completely brain broken people

You don't understand. If Twitter weren't standing in their way, they'd change the fundamental fabric of the landscape and would be absolutely unstoppable. Twitter is the key to the next thousand years of strength and prosperity.

 

[Neodanthril]

You don't understand

just gotta own two more libtards and then ill be the next hitler

 

[The Hardest R]

it is astounding how much of the right wing sphere is just twitter drama these days. that was always apart of it since the alt right days but now thats just all there is. trs is a great example of this but its across the board. all wignats want to do is be on twitter, talk about twitter, or bitch about being banned from twitter. completely brain broken people

It’s all based in the 2018-era thought that social media is the modern public square so once people see they own enough of da haydurs on Xitter, everything else will quickly fall into place. That 2018-era thought was all based on The Great Meme War of 2015-2016 where they thought dank maymays put Trump into office. So let’s say it did, what would TRS want to do with this tremendous power? As we saw with NJP, they just wanted to grift off their paypigs and hang out at pool parties. Doesn’t seem like they actually have anything they’d want to do. So once again you gotta wonder what the paysimps are thinking when they spend $10 per month or whatever on a couple of clowns sharing their Xitter antics. I know thanks to inflation tenbux doesn’t get you very far but there’s better uses of your money than that.

 

[Neodanthril]

in lieu of a thread on the alt right/wignats/e-nazis as a whole im just gonna dump this herend i can claim relevency because this party somehow got kevin macdonald attached as a leading member, an infrequent guest on the trs show.. the american freedom party is yet another attempt at creating an openly pro white politcal party that is apparently having an event soon. one of their speakers is nathan damigo of identity europa fame. you know, the group that no longer exists anymore and went out like a wet fart cucking out on its antisemitic message after charlettesville. perusing damigos wikipedia page he was incarcerated for armed robbery and got racist in prison, so a natural leader, and was shortly made leader of project in that org before splitting ways to make identity europa.



anyway, just another group that is not for Christians. i genuinely do not understand people like kmac and borzoi breaking bread with these kinds of people.

other more related musings mcnabb lives to bitch and moan about losing his emt job and being generally unemployable for shit talking his patients while using his real name and face and i dont have any sympathy for him anymore. in what world is an employee recording themselves shit talking his customers ever tolerated, and then magnify that by him being a medical professional and the customers being people who put their lives in his hands. and for anyone who still thinks its fine because he was talking about niggers, 2025 mcnabb would be shit talking "whitoid creekshitters" probably exclusively.

2018-era thought that social media is the modern public square

talk about a self serving narrative.

 

[Ishtar]

anyway, just another group that is not for Christians. i genuinely do not understand people like kmac and borzoi breaking bread with these kinds of people.

The dam is breaking on this issue-Christianity is on the verge of being entirely driven out of WN and DR circles, barring those that are specifically some sort of Catholic or Orthodox trad circle.

Many on the DR that aren't explicitly anti Christian only avoid direct antagonism because they have normie to conservatish audiences-the more fringe don't have this concern.

I don't think it can really be stopped now, the younger generations see modern Christianity as part of the libtard blob-whether or not they have internalized Nietzsche or watch Adam Green videos.*

*I cannot begin to emphasize how revolutionary this is, there have always been anti Christian elements on the political right, many explicitly so on the grounds of semitic origins or Nietzschean critiques(or both), but now, political consciousness amongst the most convicted and radical sections of the DR has evolved decisively against it-like the splitting of the atom, this deserves far more attention than it gets.

Because it will shape political discourse and indeed metapolitical struggles from now on.

 

[FightenGnome]

the american freedom party is yet another attempt at creating an openly pro white politcal party

They've been around for a bit. I searched the name because I vaguely remembered them and the name A3P came up which was started in the late 00's. IIRC, they did better as A3P and once they rebranded to Freedom, I haven't heard about them in years.

other more related musings mcnabb lives to bitch and moan about losing his emt job and being generally unemployable for shit talking his patients while using his real name and face and i dont have any sympathy for him anymore.

I stated this earlier in the thread, but it's my belief that he wanted to get fired to get a "full time" job at TRS. He used to brag openly that no one went after him for using his real name and picture. When the big doxxing happened he giggled about no one going after him and that he was apparently untouchable practically baiting some libtard to go after him. Prior to his firing, he was getting paid as a contributor, making less than Mike or Sven as he wasn't on every show (but did come on a lot). Now he's in a better position than ever, making somewhere in the ballpark of 80k for 6 hours a week of "work" bullshitting with his friends. He may have made a little more at his ambulance job but actually had to work 40 hours, no doubt with late nights.

anyway, just another group that is not for Christians. i genuinely do not understand people like kmac and borzoi breaking bread with these kinds of people.

And it's a losing position. The majority of the public, while agnostic religiously, are fundamentally monotheistic in some sense. They believe there is some over-god (maybe governing certain forces and spirits) that handles some aspect of the unexplained. Whether that be a more heavenly realm in the afterlife, deciding someone's reincarnation, or acting as a force of power against evil or maybe in personally advancing one's life (such as making it rich or finding one's husband/wife).

Then you have people who are poor or unfortunate who believe they can divine things using astrological charts, charms, tarot cards, communing with the dead, etc. Maybe the people providing the services themselves believe it.

Hostility towards Christianity as a political platform is a losing position, because the substitute being offered is either atheism or norse paganism, which doesn't appeal to the demographics one wants politically. There's elements of Christianity that appeal to the public, especially women, that an outright attack makes it a dumb position to take.

A neutral stance on religion is wisest, and we see how an Anti-Christian position harms TRS' public perception.

I don't think it can really be stopped now, the younger generations see modern Christianity as part of the libtard blob-whether or not they have internalized Nietzsche or watch Adam Green videos.

Adam Green is a nobody, and if anything there's a *slight* increase in interest in Christianity with Zoomers over Millennials. This has to do with the fact that historical Christianity was memed as anti-Muslim and more narrowly anti-Jewish.

If you go on /pol/, the anti-Christian threads seem completely unorganic, with the same anons making up the majority of posts in the threads.

That's not to say that /pol/ represents the general public either, and from the right-wing normies I know in my life, they're much more ideologically close to Trump than either you or myself.

 

[Punished Jenna]

I've noticed many comments over time on different chats/threads saying that Mike should break away from TRS already and leave everyone else behind and it got me thinking. I mean if he left, there would be no reason for any remaining subscribers to stay right? A Sven, Mcnabb, and Borzoi show? Please. It's such a failure of a supposed network that you have only one essential person left now, who multiple people's livelihood depend on, could one day decide to go his own way and the house would come crashing down.

 

[Neodanthril]

Mike should break away from TRS already

Mike is too lazy to run a business.

 

[Burned Legate]

I've noticed many comments over time on different chats/threads saying that Mike should break away from TRS already and leave everyone else behind and it got me thinking. I mean if he left, there would be no reason for any remaining subscribers to stay right? A Sven, Mcnabb, and Borzoi show? Please. It's such a failure of a supposed network that you have only one essential person left now, who multiple people's livelihood depend on, could one day decide to go his own way and the house would come crashing down.

I've said it for years, granted now I despise Mike as well, but I know I'm not the only one who when an episode opened without Mike I'd just skip it.

He should have went off with Striker even before Sven fired him. Everybody else related to TRS just drags it down. People were there for Mike, Jazzhands, and maybe Allsup brought an audience.

Only other shows that ever caught my interest were Poz Button and Prussian Socialism; Borsoy can't even run a pretty simple concept podcast, and Conte getting ousted was the start of me seriously asking questions.

Mike is literally just too lazy to strike out on his own and he doesn't truly believe in what he preaches. If he did NJP would still be around, and he'd break off from TRS and relentlessly push the message. He just wants to grift.

 

[FightenGnome]

A Sven, Mcnabb, and Borzoi show? Please. It's such a failure of a supposed network that you have only one essential person left now, who multiple people's livelihood depend on, could one day decide to go his own way and the house would come crashing down.

True, and as Burned Legate points out, it's Mike's extreme laziness that stops him. He could handle Sven calling him an idiot to everyone who will listen, but as long as Sven handles the company side of things, he's content.

I've said it for years, granted now I despise Mike as well, but I know I'm not the only one who when an episode opened without Mike I'd just skip it.

He should have went off with Striker even before Sven fired him.

Mike is literally just too lazy to strike out on his own and he doesn't truly believe in what he preaches. If he did NJP would still be around, and he'd break off from TRS and relentlessly push the message. He just wants to grift.

The shows without Mike aren't bad in my opinion, not because of the content itself, but because it is pretty clear listening to the Mikeless shows that Sven is only ornery because he feels upstaged by Mike. When it's just him and Alex, he feels completely in control of the situation and seems less agitated. He's comfortable talking about Star Trek or Red Letter media with Alex.

In regards to leaving with Striker, This would have been the winning move over the course of the week or 2 NJP collapsed. Especially after Sven had a meltdown over it, insulted Mike and blamed everything on him over what he seemed to believe was a vanity project.

Sven has contempt for Mike and it must bother him that he can't keep TRS without Mike being there. I'm not sure what the source of this conflict is, maybe Mike believes more in the politics side than we may think. When they discuss the good old days of owning the libs on Facebook, Mike and Alex look back with nostalgia whereas Sven is more "Yeah.. I remember that".

Mike's a grifter without a doubt, but still he seems to get on Sven's nerves even though he's a grifter too. I get the feeling that Sven is no longer interested in right-wing politics and only sticks around because it keeps food on the table.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I've noticed many comments over time on different chats/threads saying that Mike should break away from TRS already and leave everyone else behind and it got me thinking. I mean if he left, there would be no reason for any remaining subscribers to stay right? A Sven, Mcnabb, and Borzoi show? Please. It's such a failure of a supposed network that you have only one essential person left now, who multiple people's livelihood depend on, could one day decide to go his own way and the house would come crashing down.

Mike should have jumped ship with Striker as Jose and Warren are rolling in the superchats. Especially since Warren adds so little to the show.

The most recent Mike and Borz show started with them saying how they hate superchat shows (likely seething at Striker)

 

[Neodanthril]

likely seething at Striker

If they are ever talking about a general topic seemingly at random, they are continuing as much of an off camera conversation as they can without explicitly calling anyone out. So they were definitely seething about striker

 

[Ishtar]

And it's a losing position. The majority of the public, while agnostic religiously, are fundamentally monotheistic in some sense. They believe there is some over-god (maybe governing certain forces and spirits) that handles some aspect of the unexplained. Whether that be a more heavenly realm in the afterlife, deciding someone's reincarnation, or acting as a force of power against evil or maybe in personally advancing one's life (such as making it rich or finding one's husband/wife).

Then you have people who are poor or unfortunate who believe they can divine things using astrological charts, charms, tarot cards, communing with the dead, etc. Maybe the people providing the services themselves believe it.

Hostility towards Christianity as a political platform is a losing position, because the substitute being offered is either atheism or norse paganism, which doesn't appeal to the demographics one wants politically. There's elements of Christianity that appeal to the public, especially women, that an outright attack makes it a dumb position to take.

A neutral stance on religion is wisest, and we see how an Anti-Christian position harms TRS' public perception.

I think you run into the problem that many of the DR's intellectuals are some or another variant of atheist. Not that I would consider TRS remotely intellectual.


The logic of anti-Christianity is simply taking anti semitism to its natural conclusion-if something comes from the Jews, then its suspect at best, at worst its a conspiracy. Of course, radical right wingers aren't going out giving long dissertations about philosophical materialism or something but the core basically has the same beliefs as Richard Dawkins as far as questions like "is God real" are concerned.

This is inevitably going to create friction-and apart of me suspects may be the brick wall the racialist right runs into in a few decades-wherein the conservative normies are more religious, they think its all a bunch of (Jewish) nonsense. So eventually they're ability to shape discourse outside echo chambers is halted.

 

[FightenGnome]

I think you run into the problem that many of the DR's intellectuals are some or another variant of atheist. Not that I would consider TRS remotely intellectual

Very few are, if anything most of the "intellectuals" (more accurately named mouth pieces) are agnostic or have their own unique set of spiritual beliefs. Mike has admitted openly that he believes in the super natural. Even Spencer talks at great lengths about the spiritual conceptually with a more platonic slant.

Greg Johnson is an open homosexual, and his condemnation of religion likely stems from that, though admittingly I don't recall him talking about the subject freely. One could probably find an article about that.

Red Ice believe in the spiritual, albeit in a different form, Devon Stack also has expressed a belief in a higher power.

You also have the Catboy right which all are professed Catholics/Christians though they do not practice what they preach. The Alt-Lite as well LARP as Christians or at the least claim to believe in God.

The main problem in the Right in regards to religion isn't about belief vs non-belief, it's about belief in my very unique set of spiritual principles and if you don't you're part of the problem.

but the core basically has the same beliefs as Richard Dawkins as far as questions like "is God real" are concerned.

Not at all, Dawkins has rejected his previous works as he grows older and its plain to see that the reason is because he's a really old man now afraid of death. Dawkins reasons were purely materialistic, whereas the DR as you put it has reasons that are doctrinal overtly and personal covertly.

It's not about that anyway, because the whole beef many of these guys have is a mix of a belief that John Hagee is under every Christian or Catholic bed telling them to love Israel and personal guilt over something they're doing they believe God would be upset over.

In Europe, it isn't a concern despite facing the same social problems. It's a uniquely Anglo obsession trying to blame the Church as the source for all your problems. It goes back hundreds of years.

This is inevitably going to create friction-and apart of me suspects may be the brick wall the racialist right runs into in a few decades

I don't believe this will be the case as society has reached a synthesis on this matter. Atheism has failed. Organized Religion has failed. There's no faith in either to give the spiritual answers of our time. The Alt-Right has won many fronts of the cultural war, and now has no reason to exist in the debate of the spiritual or the political. The personalities that make up the right-wing lolcow sphere are the last of an old era.

The "Men dream of Rome" meme has done 100x more to engage people with Roman culture than any name you or I have heard of. The Tradwife Wojak had done more to challenge Feminism than anything any figure in this sphere has done in decades. Hell Stonetoss, despite not even being fully White, has done more for the racialist right than Mike Enoch.

Don't worry, things will be okay.

 

[Passing Through Town]

Being anti-Christian is really retarded on an organizational level. I get being against Christianity personally, but you have to include Christians if you want to get anywhere. Any Christian willing to join a far-right org isn't going to reflect the flaws of Christianity anyway. If you want to run a no-Christians allowed club or whatever then just do that, you don't need to pretend to be a political party.

 

[Konstantinopel Retaker]

Being anti-Christian is really retarded on an organizational level. I get being against Christianity personally, but you have to include Christians if you want to get anywhere. Any Christian willing to join a far-right org isn't going to reflect the flaws of Christianity anyway. If you want to run a no-Christians allowed club or whatever then just do that, you don't need to pretend to be a political party.

I agree that being anti-Christian is, on a grand scheme, retarded, as most conservatives are Christian. However, even many Christians in the DR would rather marry their children off to Christian South Americans than Pagan Europeans. Hell, they'd rather pick a non-White if that person is from the some branch of Christianity rather than a protestant. Being pro-White seems to be secondary to Christians even when they are "redpilled".
It is a sad fact that Jewish prophecy beat European Volk spirit many moons ago. In Pagan religions you can only go to the afterlife if you die fighting for your people, in Christianity you have to give to the poor (the brown).
It seems that the correct approach is what Uncle Adolf took - be publicly Christian, but true to Europe behind closed doors. When - if - we secure our survival, then we can start getting rid of Hebrew tomes.

Also, I heard Mike is getting fat. That couldn't possibly be correct, right?

 

[CrunkLord420]

 

[FightenGnome]

However, even many Christians in the DR would rather marry their children off to Christian South Americans than Pagan Europeans. Hell, they'd rather pick a non-White if that person is from the some branch of Christianity rather than a protestant. Being pro-White seems to be secondary to Christians even when they are "redpilled"

I've never seen or heard this expressed by anyone, unless you're lumping in Alt-Lite figures who aren't pro-White in any serious way.

 

[Can't Stand Ya]

I've never seen or heard this expressed by anyone, unless you're lumping in Alt-Lite figures who aren't pro-White in any serious way.

Off the top of my head, Fuentes has said similar things many times. I've also interacted with a ton of so-called pro-White anons who were fine with marrying based latinas or asians as long as they were Christian. Beyond the racial aspect though, I've also seen plenty of ecumenical slap fights. Usually it's Protestants picking fights with Catholics, but sometimes I see the reverse, too.

This shit always happens. It's why certain people go overboard and try to push out Christianity altogether.