Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 66 13.9%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 11.8%
  • This Year

    Votes: 74 15.5%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 164 34.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 116 24.4%

  • Total voters
    476
Greer has openly demonstrated his maliciousness by saying that he wants to financially ruin Null.

Bloating a legal process to financially burden your opponent is not a complex strategy that requires high IQ,
While I agree with you that dragging out a legal proceeding to cost the other party money isn't beyond Russ's mental capacity, and that he is a malicious little shit, here's why I think Mr. Danger is right and he's making this take forever because dumb and not because malice.

I think Russ meant that the court would bankrupt Null by awarding him his $600k, not by dragging out the process so that Dear Feeder runs out of dinero, because Russ doesn't want that kind of victory. He's a narc, and it isn't enough for narcs to win in the shadows. It isn't enough that they achieve their stated goal. You betta recognize. You have to stand up and tell them they were right all along and you were wrong and you now realize that and they're amazing for being so amazing all the time. Russ will take any victory--if the process went on so long Null did run out of money and the site (and therefore his thread) went down forever--I've no doubt he would celebrate it as a win. But I don't think he's intentionally aiming for that. He wants to Win. He wants the judge to say Null (and Hardin, whom he probably hates more than Null at this point) is wrong, that Russ was right, that Joshua "Fancypants" Moon is a bad man who has to stop harassing him. He wants to explain his hard(in)ships in open court and have the audience in tears and applauding as the judge hammers the gavel down declaring Russ the victor. I think he's annoyed that this hasn't happened, that Null won't settle so Russ can move on and on top of that, that he is being expected to, like, do stuff in the lawsuit.
 
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Amazing that the Judge told Russ "Give them the thing you said you would give them but didn't, and show cause why you shouldn't be sanctioned for Hardin's time having to ask me to tell you to do what you already should've done in discovery, AGAIN because you've already been sanctioned for the same shit last month!"

And Russell's response is "They can find it themselves, and actually, THEY SHOULD SHOW CAUSE!"

It's fun how Greer's behavior is both entirely predictable, and simultaneously amazing every time he busts out a new plightfiling.
 
He can't both want to bankrupt Null, and not want to bankrupt Null.

While this may be true of mere mortals like you and I, the mind of Greer is a truly mysterious thing and I would not put such seemingly impossible feats outside of the realm of possibility. This is after all a man who somehow managed to pay a literal whore thousands of dollars without having sex with her.

The process is the punishment. The only question is whether it's Greer being punished or Null.

It's both, and even the court is being punished with this absolute farce of a lawsuit. The only people who aren't being punished in all of this are the people here laughing at it all. Otherwise this is a complete waste of everyone's time, money, and mental well-being.
 
I just re-read his amended complaint (thank you, @Third World Aristocrat, for linking those again!). Did we sort out why there is a John Doe #5 referenced a few times? Just bad editing bc he originally had 5? And wtf are Exhibits V and W? Phrase search brought up only the exhibits, and they say nothing relevant. I may be forgetting already-solved mysteries. I think (?) those were also in the original complaint, but if so, why not remove them now that you have the chance, and if not what are they doing here? (Rhetorical.).

And I'm not going to go through his headache- and exasperation-inducing tortured logic super-closely rn bc I don't want either of those things, but I really need to laugh/whine about how his screenshots/ exhibits are always so bad, so pointless, and reveal so much. I can't bear to go through all of them, but:

You've got the one in Exhibit V (again, not referenced in the amended complaint that I could find*) that shows his suggested connections at the bottom - all working girls or those with the look. Irrelevant, but funny.
*I'm on my iPhone
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Then there's Exhibit D, where he makes a point to circle an assertion HE's making as support for his own arguments. And when you read his whole comment (not just the circled part) and the cut-off start to the other person's response, it's clear he's in an argument and per usual has been accused of something that he is absolutely in the wrong for.

Exhibit G, like many, doesn't support its paragraph. Putting aside that the whole point of the paragraph is irrelevant to a copyright infringement suit, it's a great example of his inability to connect dots or support the smallest point. The text says,
Also, the trolls screenshot everything Greer does and put it on the site, which encourages the users to harass Greer. And because harassers have linked Kiwi Farms to the harassment. EXHIBIT G.
Exhibit G is a picture of a bag with a tag saying, "you're a dirtbag." Again, irrelevant, but even if it were relevant, it doesn't work: he's meaning (it appears) to say that [he thinks] he got a prank "gift" from a KF user, but he doesn't say so in this paragraph, and nowhere is there support for that actually coming from a KF user, rather than from anyone else he has ever crossed paths with or who encountered him irl, on any other site, through his book, through his other lawsuits, or just through reading his many and varied SM posts. Or from his family or a prior "victim" [sic] of his harassment.

And then there's A3 (not, similarly to several others, referenced in the complaint) where he includes (again) his own accusations as evidence of wrongdoing - this time trying to get sassy with someone who panned his book, putting their name in quotes in his epic clapback to them, as evidence of (presumably KF) trolls rating him poorly on Goodreads. But the funniest part is his circling the fact that the man...actually has 6 other reviews - aka not a random username created to troll Russell.

Exhibit C is not referenced but I guess is supposed to be support for paragraph 24 - but the usernames in the Exhibit don't align to those in the paragraph, so wtf knows.

Exhibit O, a Goodreads partial screenshot with a link to a Bandcamp recording, is supposed to support the point that
Other users on Kiwi Farms have created unauthorized audio recordings of Greer’s books and have put them on various sites. One infringer used the hashtag, “Spaz Face” as a direct, discriminatory insult against Greer. Kiwi Farms has links to these audio recordings. EXHIBIT O.

Putting aside that, again, no evidence that either image shows that the users are KF users, does anyone see"Spaz Face" in either the Lionel Spanner Goodreads image or the "read by Steve Macdonald" image of a page? Or see a hashtag? Or see a KF image in that Exhibit? Because I don't, and Russell's filings make me feel crazy.

Speaking of, Russell should compensate me for the frown lines reading his filings is deepening. Or fuck that, I want eggshell damages for any signs of age (nevermind the fact of time itself or the fact that I am currently sitting outside in the sun without wearing SPF or sunglasses, etc.), plus punitive damages for his egregious and obviously malicious intentions. My iron-clad evidence will be his sex-pest behavior toward young women my children's age, and I will screenshot this comment to prove it. I will also add a hate crime in my civil suit, because obviously. I will bring suit in my state, because Russell knew that filings are available on PACER, which is available everywhere. I also have a lot of (alive, currently, probably) eager witnesses who can attest I have been on the internet, and my parents can prove I looked younger as a child. Plus, I receive many, many solicitations by email for anti-aging treatments, which obviously come from Russell. I will screenshot my junk mail list (and n.b., the Viagra treatment promotions are obviously pranks by him, because I am not male....hmm, sounds to me like another harassment hate crime...my plights are legion).

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I just never stop being astounded at how Russell is so consistently dumb and wrong...and just bad at evidence (and I don't even mean legal evidence, but rather just "how do I support my point" in an everyday way).

I did better than that when
"I'm
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was literally true. (Dorothy was an argumentative little Parker**, and my parents enjoyed the humiliation ritual of taping me on occasion, so I know. But even non-argumentative 6-year-olds intuitively know how to point to things that actually help their case. A 6yo (A) does not tattle on a sibling (B) for hitting A and then prove the accusation by recounting that A shoved a neighbor kid (G) to the ground last week and shouted that A was doing so because next week B would hit A. No one thinks like that.)

**tosh! People just needed to agree that I was right and they were wrong see what was correct, and if it took a 72-point lecture harangue educative explanation, was it not my tiny human obligation to provide? 💅

And it will never not be funny (para. 25) that he cites his notoriety resulting from a "publicity stunt" (suing Taylor Swift) - being recognized as the person who sued Taylor Swift or yelled at from cars in person - as evidence of harassment, either in general or by KF users (he hard-fuzzes that, as usual).

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Because if he was trying to drag things out and run up Hardin's bills, there are so many more things he could be doing. I won't list them here, obviously. But it seems like all the delays he causes have retarded yet consistent reasons. He isn't using the legal process to his advantage, quite the opposite: he is constantly surprised that things don't work the way he thinks they do, and constantly upset that judges don't cut him slack. The malice is entirely in him trying to lawsuits to get things he isn't entitled to.
I concur the only reason Greer is suing for copyright is because the slander and harassment suits failed.

It is worth remembering that every single second that the threads about him being enormously retarded are up he is reminded of how terrible and worthless his life his. If no one remembers and no one knows about everything that makes Greer a loser then it doesn't exist and isn't real in his mind. The threads being up constantly force him to live with and admit his mistakes. The joy he feels for using the process to torture Null does not compare to the despair he feels about his threads still being up.

Greer also doesn't tend to be the compromising type. He doesn't think things like "We'll I can't win but I can make it painful". His pride doesn't allow him to do that.
 
Exhibit G is a picture of a bag with a tag saying, "you're a dirtbag." Again, irrelevant, but even if it were relevant, it doesn't work: he's meaning (it appears) to say that [he thinks] he got a prank "gift" from a KF user, but he doesn't say so in this paragraph, and nowhere is there support for that actually coming from a KF user, rather than from anyone else he has ever crossed paths with or who encountered him irl, on any other site, through his book, through his other lawsuits, or just through reading his many and varied SM posts. Or from his family or a prior "victim" [sic] of his harassment.
Do you think that Russell Greer has forgotten that he initially ascribed the bag of dirt to Taylor Swift herself?

ALSO ANTHRAX?!?!!?!?!
 
Even in this case, never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence. Greer is an unending source of incompetence.
I disagree with you. Greer has openly demonstrated his maliciousness by saying that he wants to financially ruin Null. Why should you now attribute this behavior to incompetence, especially when both things can be true at the same time?
If I were a betting man, I'd put my shekels on Occam beating Hanlon in this particular razor fight.

A mix malicious recalcitrance and incompetence is the simplest explanation for Russhole's behavior in prosecuting this joke of a suit.
 
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Which razor is the one where people keep fighting even though it's entirely possible and has even been stated out loud that both things can be true at the same time?
That'd be Occam viz. the first/simplest answer is usually correct. Hanlon is the one that says never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.
 
Someone should get Shane Nokes' opinion.
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He doesn’t want $600k from Null. He’s never wanted it (he’d take it but it’s not the goal).

The goal is removal of his threads and inability to create more. That’s literally all he’s ever wanted and will want.

Rusty doesn't seem to understand that removing his thread will do nothing to salvage his life. He is hyperfixated on this since it seems like an easy way to cure all his problems, not realizing the thread really had nothing to do with the issues he faces in life. In fact, he is solely responsible for his current plights in full.
 
Rusty doesn't seem to understand that removing his thread will do nothing to salvage his life.

Besides, we can all just talk about him somewhere else if we want. Some of us probably already are. OOOOooooooOOOOOooooo

Boy, tomorrow’s gonna be fun. If nothing else, the judge will at least presumably chime on on Greer’s last-minute reconsider/set aside/do-it-to-Null-instead requests.
 
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