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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the House of Representatives
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To be fair this thread is insane compared to other parts of the site, the good boy sticker points I get out of a single dumb post here that gets highlight it would take me years to lose acting disruptive in lolcow threads. I'd probably get individually threadbanned from every one before my reaction score went negative. If you give the tiniest shit about score (which admittedly would be gay), you have to be pretty brave to go against the grain here.
I've seen plenty of people in this thread and the previous Biden thread go against the grain and get positive reactions because they show they have actual thinking skills, usually getting lots of thunk provoking, likes and even a few agrees. When someone comes in here and says some retarded shit, they are gonna get bombed with puzzle pieces, because it's very accurate. Posts like people complaining about Elon firing federal workers because they think Elon is just doing this stuff on a whim with no authority or backing? That's retarded so you're gonna get called retarded. There are some occasions where I notice a very good take that you would think everyone would agree with gets torn apart and everyone becomes a retard for a while but that's fairly rare.

At the end of the day, giving people autism stickers is one of the best parts of this site. It's the most satisfying sticker to give out and it always feels good.
 
Sticker points are for fags. I'll gladly crawl into negative space if it means never being mistaken for a tranny nigger or fed sympathizer. The top hat FREEDOM LID is for true Americans, and I for one am feeling pretty god-damn patriotic right now.
wear the hat with pride brother. :semperfidelis:
 
I disabled the sticker notifications because every time I log in I have a hundred new winner stickers or a hundred new autistic stickers. No in between.
Null may have absolutely terrible taste in Dota 2 videos, but him disabling they site wide was a god send, and I got immediately annoyed when it was turned back on and went to go turn it off as fast as I could
 
Most qualified tech jobs have to do this daily btw, you have a meeting where each person on a team has to explain to the team what they did yesterday.

The fact asking for a private email once a week is too much for some people is crazy
While a massive chunk of their response is just "Elon Man Did It, Therefore It Bad", another significant chunk is that if this is an ongoing thing it ends the most disgusting practice they do on an individual and systemic level.


The number of them who decide to just not work for up to a -month at a time- and still get -paid- is frankly disgusting.

Now, I am not talking about duley awarded vacation hours. No, I am talking "Joe didnt come in to work today, or anytime in the last month, but we logged him as here. Oh well, must have been a mental health break".


It is shockingly common.

@Gehenna, I remember you mentioning several years ago about the Democrat floor being around 31%? Am I misremembering that? I thought it wasn't possible for them to go this low because there's always a core group of true believers and supporters, but this seems really, really low.

I tend to dismiss polls but this one seems legit. If I was a Dem I'd be angry that my elected officials were doing less than zero of anything other than blathering on. If democracy is at stake, they sure aren't acting like it.
31 -was- their floor. And I said at the time if they ever dropped below 24ish that they would enter a death spiral. Welp. ..
 
Isn't that the point? Don't tell me you actually like the dude?
I want to add some clarity to this from my perspective without attacking anyone. It's more about site culture and rules than about personal opinion. This might be long sorry but give me a moment of your time.

Boiling it down simply a thread's ethos is to critique/discuss/make fun of the 'cow' or topic. Look at any thread on the site and you'll find that anyone either shielding for the cow or attempting to cast their actions in a better light is met with top hats, trash cans, negative responses, and at worst moderator action.

Elon's thread much like Trump's is to focus on them as Internet lolcows, business men, and not as political figures. But because of the current circumstances there's a crossover. you'll get seething or commentary there but it's because it gets ridiculed if posted here (rightful so in my opinion).

This means these threads operate within the website's rules/ethos while also providing a containment area for certain posts and ideas (null has talked about this multiple times). A&N exists as a pseudo version of this to stop people from derailing other threads unrelated to politics with political sperging.

In final, leave them alone don't antagonize them. Let them bellyache and moan about things that they have no control over and will never be able to change. It's not in your benefits to antagonize them or cause more infighting and animosity on the site. Post encouraging and useful updates in the USPG2 and encourage discussion on the actions of the US government.
 
You seemed to have missed his ”do what I say or you’re fired” routine on Twitter. Musk is not a cabinet member. He not an SES. He is not anyone that is invested with any power in the US government. That the leadership (cabinet heads and all) are, for the most part, bending over to taken his broken dick anytime he wants like a $2 whore would be seen as shameful in a sane world but we don’t live there any longer.

Again, Musk is no ones boss. He can’t tell people what to do and talk about firing people that don’t comply with his insane commands anywhere except in his personal life and with any business he’s the primary shareholder over. This isn't difficult to understand.
Let me explain how this works on the level a gay retard like you can understand. There are no orders coming from the personal authority of Elon Musk. None.

These communications all come from a federal agency formerly known as the United States Digital Service, now known as DOGE. The USDS was created by an Obama executive order, renamed to DOGE by a Trump executive order, and funded by Congress.

What that means, in simple gay retard terms, is that DOGE is a vehicle of Presidential authority.

The President has additionally directed every single agency to comply with requests from DOGE. That is, the President has told the government that answers to him, by virtue of the Vesting Clause, that DOGE is a means of him giving directions to those agencies.

What that means, in simple gay retard terms, is that, unless the President gives you a dispensation to do otherwise, disobeying DOGE is disobeying the President.

Elon Musk is a "special government employee," meaning he serves at the pleasure of the President for a 130-day term and not subject to OPM hiring/firing/salary rules. In particular, Elon Musk is not being paid. However, being a government employee, the President can in fact communicate authoritative messages to and through him, and authorize him to act as a Presidential representative.

In simple gay retard terms, the President acts by delegating his authority. The President could walk into the Pentagon with a halfwit post office worker in tow, declare that all the generals have to run policy by this envelope shuffler, and now the Joint Chiefs must comply.

You seem like a gay retard, so let me explain delegation. The President does not have the time to give direct orders to the millions of federal employees. That's why he chooses people to act as his representative.

Now, let's put it all together.

The President has delegated his authority to Elon Musk. Elon Musk heads an agency known as DOGE. The President has additionally directed all federal agencies to comply with DOGE requests, and retains the power to grant exceptions or rescind DOGE's mandate entirely.

If you're a gay retard, you may need the obvious spelled out to you. DOGE orders carry the weight of Presidential authority. This means that a federal employee ignoring them is disobeying the President, which is one of the few reasons for which he can fire you immediately without the OPM being able to do anything at all.

In conclusion, you are gay and retarded.
 
The stickers help me confirm to myself that I am objectively right about everything but espcially about something awful forums getting Obama elected and the resulting blowback causing gamergate and getting Trump elected.
I just learned it on this very thread, but in case you missed it I bet you'd enjoy this schizophrenia-activating article in which Patrick Ryan claims responsibility for gamergate: https://www.cultstate.com/2017/10/13/The-Butterfly-War/

I have some gay thoughts about stickers, which in my fatness I will autistically share. I've had posts get a bunch of negrates, and I found it fun; I reflected a bit on why, and I think it's the fact that in other places, posts like that which no one likes just gets removed. You break the circlejerk, all evidence is erased; on reddit, even if your post stays up, it gets autohidden if more people downvoted it. You can be as crude as you want, but only if you say the right things about the right people. On the other hand, places that try to facilitate debate between people who don't agree generally need really strict moderation on tone and how posters talk to each other. It's just so rare that you're able to be a belligerent retard and continue to even exist, but from time to time that's what we all are.

But on a site dedicated to making fun of retards who can't control themselves, there's going to be a very finely tuned culture and policy of allowing people to post like retards so you can laugh at them, while protecting the things that make the forum work. Everyone knows everyone else here is at least one of gay, autistic or fat, and if you care enough to prove you're not, you just doxed yourself and everyone laughs at you even harder. It's not that this is a perfect paradise of open debate and free exchange of ideas, the Russia-Ukraine thread split argues against that, but even then you can look at the other thread, report what they're talking about and argue against it obliquely. And this thread is a bit of a monoculture, but I assume that when midterms are coming up more lefties will be in here to argue that their worldview is about to be validated by the results, and someone will win and someone will lose, and we start all over.

Also, just because I may never have a better chance to share this, when I was first lurking here, the first time I saw someone talk about getting "negrated" I didn't know what it was or how you'd pronounce it, and assumed it was the past tense of a verb form of negro; so if you went into a thread and got negrated, it meant you got turned black.
 
Been hearing schitso babble about Trump trying to privatize the postal service because he appointed the current head postmaster. DeJoy is an absolute embarrassment, I hope that numbnuts gets executed live on television.

The fact that we have UPS, DHL, FedEx (don't ever use FedEx, they suck) makes me wonder why we even have a federal postal service at all.
 
To be fair this thread is insane compared to other parts of the site, the good boy sticker points I get out of a single dumb post here that gets highlight it would take me years to lose acting disruptive in lolcow threads. I'd probably get individually threadbanned from every one before my reaction score went negative. If you give the tiniest shit about score (which admittedly would be gay), you have to be pretty brave to go against the grain here.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the vast majority of the rest of the internet being filled to the gills with leftists and moderated by leftists.
 
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