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Never forget an entire generation got flashbanged by this fucking furfaggotry and somehow 'tok jannitors took god knows how long before they stopped eating their chink hotpockets to do something.View attachment 7015476
Fs in the chat to all the kids who got unsuspectedly groomed by EPI, may Zone and everyone who posted this get the rope.
I absolutely despise this style and whenever I see something tangentially that looks like this. It makes me MATI, without a joke. Perhaps the "intention" of Peter forgot-his-surname (Zone) was to make it for adults, yet "curiously" became a """perfect""" EPI material.

I hope he and whoever uses it every second of agony in hellfire. It cannot come soon enough.
 
Perhaps the "intention" of Peter forgot-his-surname (Zone) was to make it for adults, yet "curiously" became a """perfect""" EPI material.
The original animation was by Minus-8 several years prior. Minus-8 would make these nsfw animations of Nintendo properties with 'sfw' variants. Given that Minus-8 is a self hating and self-admitted shotacon fetishist (which was known at the time of Zone's animation releasing). His decision to remake an animation by Minus-8 was odd... Zone's own 'sfw' edit of the remade animation so it could be spread all over social media for kids to see is the cherry on the sundae.

But hey, think about it from Zone's perspective. He just made a lot of new customers. Why should he care?
 
The original animation was by Minus-8 several years prior. Minus-8 would make these nsfw animations of Nintendo properties with 'sfw' variants. Given that Minus-8 is a self hating and self-admitted shotacon fetishist (which was known at the time of Zone's animation releasing). His decision to remake an animation by Minus-8 was odd... Zone's own 'sfw' edit of the remade animation so it could be spread all over social media for kids to see is the cherry on the sundae.

But hey, think about it from Zone's perspective. He just made a lot of new customers. Why should he care?
Right! It's the free-market getting new people to spend money, and that way it will "auto-regulate" with new franchises and more people to sell the "material" and of course, "competition" to put such things into perspective. Need I say that I am purely being sarcastic?

Minus eight (which seems oddly shaped like a small phallus) and Zone are cancerous. Even with "SFW edits" it shows there is something wrong going on. It's pure EPI material.
 
While you guys are talking about Minus8 and Zone, I'd like to throw in the fact that the biggest name in the furry goon-o-sphere is probably Komdog—in spite of having been thoroughly cancelled for cub and pedo allegations. For the past few years he seems to have spent most of his time on a porn rhythm-game that got pretty big with modding, and his pmvs under the "FHF" spread outside the furry niche in that world.

Bro all of this religious talk is becoming cliche and repetitive.
It's possible that I'm wrong about it being the best way to communicate the meat of the issue. I'll avoid leading with that language in this post, and see if it works better.

They continue down the ladder of fetishism because the same porn and the same scenarios over and over get repetitive. This ladder of fetishism delves into madness that barely even resembles sex anymore, or deliberately taboo behaviors (Where do you think the satanism fetishism in trannies comes from? It's a bizarre pornified rebelliousness against norms in an effort to be taboo, because taboo is hot to them.
You have a pretty good understanding of this part—which isn't surprising to me, considering that you're generally on-the-money in the LGBT discussion thread. There's something that I think you're missing, however; there's more going on here than the naked hedonic treadmill (the dopamine "ladder" to which you refer).

To explain what I mean, I'll answer your rhetorical question with another question, which I'll answer in turn with a third question:
  1. You ask, "Where do I think the Satanism fetishism in trannies comes from?"
  2. To answer that, we need to ask, "What makes sex satisfying?"
  3. To answer that, we need to ask, "What makes sex unsatisfying?"
The answer to that third question, of course, is that sex is unsatisfying when there's no sense of potency—no change; no transformation. Unsatisfying sex is sex that doesn't "do" anything: you don't grow closer to each other; you don't learn anything new about each other; there's no sense of virility or fertility; nothing "happens" other than an empty and disappointing orgasm. There's dopamine, but it's spayed and neutered. There's no meaning—no "purpose".

What makes sex satisfying, then, is potency: change; transformation; the sense of "virility" and "fertility" in a real or metaphorical sense. Even if you're alone masturbating in a dark room, it feels better—more potent—to be changed in a negative direction than not at all.

Now, where do I think the Satanism fetishism in trannies comes from? I think that it comes from using antinomianism, dissolution, and annihilation (collectively, "taboo") as the sexual and spiritual transformation-gradient; I think that it comes from using the Satanic ideal (and reality, if unknowingly) as the sexual-spiritual vector of change. It's the same thing that makes bug-chasing work: you get "pregnant" with death—the potency of poisoned semen.

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You may be asking, "How is what you're saying any different from what I'm saying?"

Here's the answer: my point is that the fetishistic downward spiral we're seeing doesn't even necessarily depend on the hedonic treadmill in terms of raw dopamine. I'm saying that it's baked into how these people are approaching sexuality, regardless of any dopamine involved. Did a dopamine feedback loop play a part? Certainly, in many cases—it's a common on-ramp; that doesn't mean that it's causal in the sense of being the determining factor behind the structure of the phenomenon. The determining factor is the vector of change—purpose's arrow.

The next question is, "Why, for them, does purpose's arrow point downward?"

There are two main reasons:
  1. The nihilistic contemporary milieu—if there's no upward trajectory (or any trajectory, really) in the external world, how can there be in their internal spiritual-sexual world?
  2. Their sex is impersonal and sterile—pregnancy and personal union are the only positive, constructive sexual change-vectors; if you're not getting someone pregnant or getting to know them better, then that "potency" has to come from somewhere else. Add to that, pregnancy's change-vector is stable in a way that others' aren't: you can just keep spamming kids, and the potency remains the same.
That first reason was the thrust of my original point—gooning viscerally confronts the vacuity of the modern world. You talk about "projects", and about doing "hobbies"—who cares? Why not—and forgive me for my language—just jerk off and kill everybody? Can you think of a real, rational reason? That's my point.

Religion doesn't really prevent you from gooning, this is still on your internal resolve. It just makes it even more demoralizing when you accidentally pop a nut to degenerate porn again and then stare at your cross for ten minutes. That adds to the forbidden aspect of your goonage per se.
That's why I don't believe all these people who say you should just imagine a greedy Jew rubbing his hands while you masturbate. Shit like this ends up giving you meta pornophilic fetishes where you purposefully "abstain" and feel an emotional low when you relapse just to feel anything
Everything you're saying is very true, unless the system in question also has practices and exercises to increase resolve (such as the Jesus prayer, if practiced in a serious way from what I understand).

I don't know where the paid psyop and the cult begins with this stuff.
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I've got no idea what this is trying to say. This seems like discord mental illness. There's people who call anything even vaguely sexual or beautiful "goonerbait", so it's hard to parse what anyone's talking about.
 
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https://soyjak.st/soy/thread/10100920.html (Archive)
Someone found a youtube porn rabbit hole after searching the term "hora de antojar" in the search bar, a spanish term which translates to "time to crave".
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(This image shows these videos being uploaded mere hours ago at the time of writing this)
What it led to was thousands of uncensored porn videos. Gooners make playlists compiling them, they are being uploaded constantly and barely any of them are deleted.
The porn can stay up for days, months, even years.

The people making these are trying to benefit from it by linking discords, telegrams and xitters in the comments or channels. Soyjak.party has discovered pedo rings here. (Archive)

This playlist has almost 4 million views and is full of uncensored porn with millions of views as well, mostly using the "hora de antojar" term. These videos seem to go as far back as 5 years and are still being uploaded en masse as of right now.
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvwh-SU5G45bsVL5suPjWINlgPTd8r38I (Archive)

This other playlist supposedly has 18 million views, which I find hard to believe.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJr12MxXKB0k38AdoF0_8da1319UQqpFE (Archive)
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Coomers seem to interact and get in contact with each other through the comment sections of these videos, often times they have links to their discords on their channel description, as well as community tabs where they do weird roleplays and find other users, creating a sort of network.
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https://www.youtube.com/@Tanikiowo (Archive) https://www.youtube.com/@Tanikiowo/community (Archive)
https://www.youtube.com/@pumpies1 (Archive)
Both of these users upload audios of themselves masturbating. They both claim to be 16 in their channel descriptions, but they're likely just pedophiles larping. Other degens find each other through the comments and the community tab.

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Brazilian pedophile commenting on a porn video, other pedos hook up with each other in the replies.

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This unlisted video has almost 200K views and more than 200 comments full of coomers roleplaying and exchanging discords. (Side note: Archiving the videos seemed to be pointless as they were age restricted, so the videos didn't get saved and the comments didn't show up either)

This whole thing is a massive endless labyrinth of porn and degenerates in plain sight, sitting there on youtube.

@Ruben Sim This might be of interest to you, I know you've already encountered stuff like this before and were unsuccessful with youtube's moderation, but perhaps you could spread awareness of this and expose this rabbit hole if you wanted to.
 
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Was feet and fart porn always this fucking prevalent and I was just unaware of it, or is it a recent thing?
In the early days of this shit feet, farts, vore, etc being so common made me think it was just people trying to be shocking. Kids actually being brainwashed to have these deranged fetishes by pedos is something I don't want to think about...
 
Why not—and forgive me for my language—just jerk off and kill everybody? Can you think of a real, rational reason? That's my point.
...bro you are so weird lmao but that's a good point I never really considered. Nihilism. A lot of these people have literally nothing to live for. They generally don't have religious beliefs, they're usually very liberal, very secular. You know, they FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!!! and are probably dead-set on assuming that death means being existentially obliterated, down to your qualia. (we all know just how many things science- the study of the material physical world- has to say about post-existential concepts like what happens after death). They have nothing to be afraid of, no heaven or hell, no moral code. The only alternative to this belief to them is the creeping idea that's been planted into them probably by their family or at least the culture since a young age that God will reap their fucking souls and send then kicking and screaming to hell for what they are doing. Which will always stick around in the back of their minds. Everyone around them is more successful or productive or both. Pretty quickly you hit a sunk cost fallacy that you'll never be like successful or productive like them so why stop now? Not to mention their family probably hates them, or they hate their family for fucking up and making them this way. It still obviously plays into the dopamine descent but giving no reason to not just full-throttle.

I don't think this is any revelation though. There is other, similiar minutia we'll inevitably never come up in this thread with as to every individual's reasons, philosophies, proclivities, etc.
Was feet and fart porn always this fucking prevalent and I was just unaware of it, or is it a recent thing?
A lot of it was probably early internet shock content. In retrospect, posting weird niche shock porn videos everywhere as a sexually immature 13 year old probably wasn't the best idea. It goes deeper than just toilet shit though. Most anything weird that an uninitiated person would be repulsed by probably originated from this. Transformation, unusual anatomy, etc.
we would never be here if artists never existed
Dude cavemen were scrawling on walls with ash and soot and crap. You can't just unify everybody into deciding: "Hey, you know what? Art is bad actually.". Besides, if it wasn't furry fetish art it would be regular live action pornography. You're shaking your fists at clouds dude. If anything, this 'artistry' is a reflection of the culture and not something on art itself. Last I checked, furry tranny porn was more of a contemporary thing.
 
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As someone that enjoys technological dystopias in fiction, it's kind of messed up that porn addiction and online sharing of porn changed humanity for the worse that no fiction writer could think of.

I think that's because both the powers that be and a lot of really, really stupid liberals kept shutting down anyone who pointed it out, because porn is freeze peach, dontcha know.

And a lot of people thought that any sort of "moral panic" surrounding porn wasn't any different from claiming Dungeons and Dragons is satanic, or Counter Strike causes mass shootings or some shit.

It's another one of those instances where society doesn't take it seriously until the negative consequences of normalizing it become too big to ignore anymore.
 
Fs in the chat to all the kids who got unsuspectedly groomed by EPI, may Zone and everyone who posted this get the rope.
The fact that content is now served to users now basically ensures that kids will be groomed by shit like this at some point. When I was a kid you'd have to manually look stuff up so the odds of you finding something you shouldn't were low. You'd hardly find EPI shit googling mario cheat codes or whatever.

But now that kids are on platforms which push content onto them instead of allowing them to find the content they want means that at some point they'll be shown things like this.
 
>underage
>incest
>feet
>gay
>furry
>scat/fart
>that's just the first five videos

Was feet and fart porn always this fucking prevalent and I was just unaware of it, or is it a recent thing?
Incest was pushed really hard by porn sites for some reason. I don't understand why.

Feet is very strange. Foot fetishists used to be quite niche and often it was Hollywood weirdos inserting it into movies. In the last 15 years feet has become mainstream online. I'm not sure how it started but I think they would paypig cam girls to show feet and showed they were a major source of whale money. If any one knows how it became so forced I'd like to know why.
 
But hey, think about it from Zone's perspective. He just made a lot of new customers. Why should he care?
I think we need to be careful about accusing people of EPI just because they're porn artists. It's extremely negligent, but a lot of them just don't think about it. They treat the 🔞 emoji like it's a magical charm that wards off children if you stick it in your bio.

A lot of furries (and probably cartoon guys more generally) never stop to think about how weird it is that a lot of their spank material is derivative of children's media.
 
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think we need to be careful about accusing people of EPI just because they're porn artists. It's extremely negligent, but a lot of them just don't think about it.

A lot of furries (and probably cartoon guys more generally) never stop to think about how weird it is that a lot of their spank material is derivative of children's media.
I wasn't trying to imply Zone is directly in on it, just that he probably doesn't care either way because of how many more eyes are on his work because of it.

I would assume the reason that a lot of this stuff is derived from children's media is largely symptomatic of there just not being much mainstream adult animated and furry media. Take anime for instance. There are thousands of animes that were never intended for children to watch, and because of this when some artist picks a random anime girl (they all look the same) to draw for their hentai they don't generally land on one from a children's franchise. For instance, overwatch isn't really a kid's game and people latched onto that. A lot of furry media is entirely original characters- not for kids. There just isn't a lot of non-children's media with colorful archetypal characters that furries can latch onto, specifically ones with cutesy artstyles. Even just Animal Crossing effectively provides a harem of cute colorful highly defined independant adult characters waiting to be sexualized to a porn addicted manchild consoomer. Plus, these types are usually stuck in the past and go back to re-watch cartoons from their childhood over and over. And generally speaking kid's shows tend to feature characters that are themselves adults. Trust me, you don't stop to think about the fact that- for instance- Ankha is from a children's game franchise. It's just an irrelevant factor. But I'm probably preaching to the choir. I suspect we in the thread have all had our fair shares of first hand experience on this topic.
 
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But I'm probably preaching to the choir. I suspect we in the thread have all had our fair shares of first hand experience on this topic.
It's best not to powerlevel, either way.

I would assume the reason that a lot of this stuff is derived from children's media is largely symptomatic of there just not being much mainstream adult animated and furry media
I dunno; there seems to be plenty of them in video games and that kind of thing. There's no reason why derivative pornographic works wouldn't draw from that well near-exclusively.
 
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