It sounds like a catch-all Australian term, manifesto time. The problem is, okay, I'll talk about it now, okay, drama frogs, whatever, start your clipping. I don't give a fuck. It's going to be underwhelming, but just, oh God. All right, off the bat, fuck destiny. Jesus Christ, like what the... Going to that level, and I'm not talking about the manifesto, you know, that was banging. That was content. That bit where he just like leaks a bunch of fucking personal DMs of Pixies and just like sexually humiliates her in public for absolutely no reason in a way that serves no purpose, in a way that doesn't prove anything, or, yeah, a way that doesn't really disprove anything she said about him, it's just, no, that was based, do it again.
But now, now going after, going after the true innocent defenseless party in here, Kuihman, Kuihman, what the fuck? I don't know why he got so grumpy after releasing his piece, I'm guessing, like obviously it convinced a lot of people in his audience, not surprisingly. I don't know if it really convinced any creators to come back on board, and that's maybe what's angry, I don't know, I don't know. But Kuihman , if I ever see Kuihman or whoever else in real life, God damn, is Kuihman defenseless? Kuihman is a 13 year old trapped in a 12 year old's body. What's this gonna, Destiny vs. Kuihman , what's this gonna, what are they going for, the fucking super gay weight twink off championships? Who would, I guess Kuihman , he looks like he weighs about 100 pounds, but he's also youthful and probably quite feisty. So maybe Kuihman could just kind of dance around him and do backflips over Steven's head until he gets tired, maybe? What a state.
Okay, but in all seriousness, the attacks, the retaliation or whatever you want to call it that he did against Pixie, it's like, oh yeah, he did this as well, I didn't realize this was in the same screenshot. If you're curious why Wicked Supreme hates me so much, for instance, it's probably because him and Pixie were also dating for a while. He's 25 years older than her, by the way, and was also her supervisor at Progressive Victory. He was never her supervisor. The actual supervisor has mentioned this. Why is he saying Wicked Supreme is 25 years older? Do you guys know how old Wicked Supreme is? Wicked Supreme, I believe is maybe three or four years older than Steven. He's not 50 years old. He's like a few years older than Steven. Why is he? It says two things in there that are bullshit. It's like, why? Why? It's unironically using a Hasan tactic. Isn't this what Hasan does? Everyone who's three or four years older than you is like, why? Why is this pushing for you and pushing for a violence? God.
But okay, all seriousness. If only you guys knew the things that I know, that's basically all I could say. I'm in this position now where it's like, people know. If I say things that people don't already know, then it's obvious where it came from. People are involved in legal cases, and I don't really know how much... There are things that I can say and do that would influence what happens legally, even though I'm not involved in the case or anything like that, just because of the people I'm talking to. And that just puts me in a position where I'm like, well, I could respond to some of these claims, especially since it's attacking someone that I'm close to. I could do my bit, but I'm thinking, how can I respond to this in a way that only uses what's already public or only uses things that are just directly accessible to me?
And then I think like, okay, pros and cons of doing that. Cons, I don't get to give all the information I could. Pros, I guess maybe a few people change their minds. Cons, retaliation. Steven doesn't really have anything on me that I know about, so he could maybe embarrass me in a couple of ways. But I don't think like, if he wants to attack me, probably the best way that he could attack me is by attacking Pixie. So that's not really nice. I'll literally just sit here like a fucking... Both hands tied behind my back. He'll dox. He's... Whatever. My doc has already been... Yeah, I don't know. It's like, he's not acting rationally as well. So I guess that's why. If I'm in a position where I can contribute anything good to this, it's like, I don't know what it is. Do I just want to join the fucking brigade of fuck Steven? As far as that goes, I haven't done anything particularly... I haven't done anything wrong to him. I haven't fucking... You know, I haven't tried to join this bandwagon of people like body shaming him or asserting crimes about his fucking grinder hookups or whatever else. I haven't joined any of that. I've occasionally fucking... I've occasionally corrected things or been pissy.
But that write-up that he did is like, that's not just defending yourself. There's no... That's not what that is. If you guys understand, that's not what that is. That was attacking, right? That was attacking and going and hitting people where he knows it hurts. For what it's worth, if you guys want to know, there's nothing in that whole piece because people in his community have been coming over to me as well and being like, oh, you got played. You got done wrong by like what you said was actually really sneaky and shit like that. Like, no, nothing. Nothing in there was new to me, okay? I was getting... That whole thing about leaking her DMs, that's not new at all to me. I was getting warnings about those screenshots going around at least as late as... As early as the end of January, probably earlier. I won't show you who sent these to me, but these ones here that he was using in his thing to prove what exactly? That... That was her idea to make a video, okay? Is that relevant to the claim? But yeah, that's from... I don't know if he intended for this stuff to get to me in January, but... If he didn't, I don't really want to reveal who did that, so...
Even now, I just... Even now, I'm just like, I'm talking about it, but I'm not really... I'm not really able to drop... I'm not really... I'm just sitting here thinking like, what can I say, what can I not say, fuck. I don't really want to comment that much on his state of mind. I know he's... I know he's in a bad place. The only outcome I can see of that write-up is... I'm not talking legal terms here, I'm just talking like, what it does is maybe intimidation? Maybe... Honestly, no. I didn't even think that. I think it's just like, it was... There are people in his audience who want to watch him and not feel bad about it. And maybe incels are convinced by that, like...
And I've been telling my mods as well, like, I've been telling my mods not to ban people who have like, sincere questions about it, because obviously like, his way of doing these things can be quite convincing, at least some of it is, especially if you don't know what I know. But that's kind of a thing, and I'd rather that people were able to air out those questions and see how they can get answered in rational ways. And I can think of ways to give these answers, or I can comment at least on the stuff that is accessible to everyone.
The fact that they're... Why do you find the implicit consent part not relevant to his case? Stephen never said he had implicit consent. I don't know if you guys recognize this, okay? I don't know if you guys are aware, Stephen chooses his words very carefully, okay? This sentence here, all this to say, consent was being reasonably understood by both sides of the situation. What the fuck does that mean? Reasonably understood? In which direction? Now maybe I'm going insane, but is this not like, quite strangely vague? Why wouldn't you just say, I had consent, rather than it was being reasonably understood? What all this to say? What part of this proves there's an implied consent? What part of it?
The fact that in a private DM to Dan before anything went public, she said, I've never sent videos, in the context of Dan saying, oh, I think everyone sends a whole bunch of videos out and they're talking about with consent or not. That doesn't help it. The idea that it, the fact that it was her idea to start to make videos, that doesn't imply consent. The idea that it might have been allowed to, that, okay, let's assume Melina was allowed to see it. Does that imply consent to send it to like a random person on Discord who Pixie doesn't know? None of, none of this builds up to the argument. It's just like theater. The idea, the, the fact that she sent him videos of her with another guy, but he says, he even admits, I don't know if she had consent or not. Well, okay. No one's asserting wrongdoing.
Doesn't her sharing videos without clarifying consent imply consent? Okay. I'm going to save you guys the trouble, okay? Because if you're like actually that naive, then take my advice, okay? I'm going to save you a lot of trouble down the line. If someone sends you videos of them with a partner and they don't tell you that that partner consented and you don't ask, okay, um, that does not give you carte blanche to take any videos you make with that person and send them to whoever.
Do you understand that? Are you kidding me? What a stupid question. Don't do that. If you make a video with someone, regardless of what they've done, they could have literally leaked like fucking revenge porn in the past, okay? Like, ask them for consent to send a video that they made with you to whoever, is it to someone you know, it's someone you don't know that might change things. Is it happening years down the line that might change things. I, uh, whatever.
You guys don't know what I know. It's annoying. It's really fucking annoying. But no, this, this statement here is not really, he's not saying I had implied consent to send something. That's a, that's committing to too much. I think, uh, this is a nothing sentence. Like every time that people say that, you know, everyone says, Oh, he admitted to it in DMs. No, he didn't. He very strongly implied it, but never actually said I did this thing. And people are missing that. A lot of people are missing that. I can't apologizing to me due to my actions.
Okay. What else do we have? This one might be a bit harder to explain. Hey, bitch. Lol. I know I violated your trust in the worst way ever, but here's some money. Have fun. Um, maybe he's just talking about the outcome. Like, yeah. This is a very intentional use of words like literally zero excuse. No excuse. You should publish notes about the forensics guy. Yeah. Maybe. It doesn't take that long to go into that.
Do you think you'll admit wrongdoing after the case? But I have no idea. What are you talking about? I don't know. Okay. We are in very uncharted territory. Okay. There's no precedent for this, for being in this situation, which is why there's no like, I can't like for anyone for me as well. I can't look to any historical examples. You're like, what would this person do like the fuck, but I don't know. I think what I'm doing right now is like, I'm just, I'm keeping little like notes and, uh, like making small write-ups just in case I ever need it. But it's like, I don't really know. I don't really know what the, I don't really know what the purpose is of like debunking his claims or whatever, or like providing context or you can take my word for a few things. Like I can give you, I mean, you don't have to take my word, but I can give you my word for a few things.
She's very cleverly saying she didn't mention having explicit consent from any of these other men. How many? Like what? Two? Three? Is it more than one? I don't know. Um, I can give you my word that she had consent, like, well, that's all I can do, you know? I don't know. I'm just, I just feel like I'm drip feeding. There's like a lot more I could say, but it's just, we're just treading dangerous territory. Doesn't it still hurt Pixie's case not to disclose that? I think a lot of people stopped caring when things went from never done anything like that to, well, I guess I did, but it shouldn't matter.
Yeah, Ram. Uh, that's a good question. Do you know the context of her saying that message that her saying I'd never, ever done that? Like that was in the context of, because this was sent to me, right? I saw this message. This is January 4th. This is before she's gone public. This is before she's gone public. It's a private message. First of all, it's a private message. This is in the context of Dan going on JSTOCK stream. I believe the day before or on the day and saying, they're talking about the context of like the issues here is whether or not this was sent with consent. And then Dan jumps in and says, you know what? I think these guys are sending videos out all the time, like to each other, like all kinds of things. And then since that's in the context of consent, Pixie panics, says something I would admit fairly impulsive and not correct, but this is a, it's a private message.
This isn't a public statement. This is before she went public. Isn't it interesting how all these like egregious lies that Pixie seems to tell are all to do with people trying to get details about her sex life, like that are not relevant to the case. And I also, I would be very surprised if Dan has not had this clarified to him since this is a private message. It changes nothing. But you know how things are. If people appear inconsistent, then, you know, juries, especially with cases to do with this, it's not particularly, like it can help in that sense, but what the fuck do I know?
You should hop in a call with Rele. He just had a debate about e-rape. You'd cook him good content. I don't know. Like, no, I'm not making content out of this situation. Are you fucking kidding me? This is probably, this has easily been like one of the most stressful or the most stressful fucking situation in my fucking life. Like, what do you want me to make content out of? God, I'm making too much content about it now. Okay. I also don't care for people calling it rape. It's just fucking, oh God. I just, it's, I just, the thing is like, I know this situation is only going to get more ugly. It just, and I don't really know what I like, who I'm helping by being part of it.
I'm confused, though, it appears all of her claims have been refuted as are outright lies. What do you mean all of her claims? Has it been refuted that she didn't give consent to share that video, FunFrasier? This is the thing, though, is like, it's, it's, it's really fucking with me that this is being, like, people are finding this convincing, given what I, what I know. Oh, God. Do you have to be a part of it? The way I see it is after him dropping a piece like that, and the way that it's implied, implicated me as well, and the way that people think that I've been taken for a ride. And the way that like, people in my dis, in my community are like, trying to deal with some people asking what I think are understandable questions about X, Y, Z, and then other people being like, very vigilant and yeah, it does affect me. Yeah, it affects me a lot. And if I say nothing, then it kind of looks like that's admitting that the claims he's made against her are legitimate, you know?
Well, he hasn't made claims against her, though. That's the thing. He very cleverly just implied it, and then his audience has clearly picked up the fucking torch, you know? He never said that she's been sending videos without consent. He has no fucking evidence for it. But that doesn't stop his audience, right? That doesn't stop his audience from... Where is it? It doesn't stop... Wait, what the fuck? This is the wrong shit. God. Thank God I didn't have my screen open. Hang on. Yeah, here. Did she have consent? Genuine question. I haven't seen anything to prove she did. I can only give you my word. I don't know. It's just, there's not my... Yeah, she did. But it's like, what good is that, you know? I mean, if someone wants to also... Sorry, no wait. Why am I doing that? Use... Just use the... Okay, just use what's public, okay? Listen, to anyone who's sitting here being like, hey, Lord of the Box, did Pixie have consent to send videos of her with another guy? Listen, let me remind you.
Okay, that that question is incredibly fucking gross because you're asking for details of a sexual interaction where none of the parties are even alleging any wrongdoing. Yeah, is that... Is Pixie's ex claiming wrongdoing? Steven's not claiming wrongdoing. He just said he doesn't know. But the top comments in the video, her exhibiting the exact same behavior she's filing a lawsuit about. The fact that she shared a bunch of other people's shit completely changes my perspective. Like, what? Just goes to show she's not exactly an angel herself. Proper meme in there. The issue is that if what he says is true, how could anyone complain about her sending their images if they had no idea? I don't... I don't even know... I don't even know... The fact is, is you're making arguments to me here that even Destiny doesn't believe. You understand that, right? If someone sends you a fucking video of themselves with a partner and you don't ask if they had consent to send it and they don't tell you they had consent to send it, that does not give you the right to make videos with that person and then send them to whoever, right? Without asking.
It doesn't give you the right at all. What the fuck? That's just not how that works. And don't use that yourselves, guys. My guys in the chat. Don't get yourselves into trouble, okay? Do you know more regarding these misdeeds that doesn't involve Pixie? Nope. Do you have any charitability for his position? What should he do now? May I have no fucking idea. My charitability for his position? He feels like everyone's betrayed him. He felt probably outside of his community. I don't think any, like, especially since it's like a lot of people who I imagine he respected, people who he thought were not crazy, people who he thought were actually quite like reasonable folks, like whatever, Josiah, Pisco, me, irrelevant, like all these people just kind of like all went in one direction right away. And he just feels like he has no friends. He feels like no one's out there to help him. Obviously, what he's going through as well is quite fucking bad. Horrible, too, like all, all his wrongdoing aside, he's still a victim himself.
Which is why I don't think he's behaving rationally right now. But I don't know. He could turn himself into the nearest police station. Find yourself in that position and tell me how that goes. So no, I understand. But I don't know what to do about that. I don't know what the answer is there. What's he the victim of? I don't know. What's he the victim of? He's the victim of people publishing videos that involve him as well that he didn't want to publish. Like revenge porn. Yeah. But, you know, that's the charitable interpretation I can give, but I don't know what to do about it.
Hello, Ryan Beard. Do you know if Pixie's ex would be possibly willing to put out a statement that he can I can't answer these questions, Ryan. I'm so sorry. You should know why I can't answer these questions. I honestly think that's there are other things I could probably say, but I don't want to take the chance.
Yeah, I've been writing stuff and putting stuff together just for my own sanity. If you ever find yourself in my position, guys, one thing that helps is just write everything out and gather things into one place, because it'll at least make you feel like you're not going insane, because it's a lot to keep track of. But I don't know. I don't think. I think until further notice, until anything dramatic changes, I don't think I want to talk any more about this. It's already like taking up my entire fucking headspace, like behind the scenes.
So I'm like. So anyone here, it feels like I'm not answering any of your questions. I'm really sorry. But what can I do? It's also there's one more bit of hubris is one bit of hubris. The other thing that makes it quite frustrating from a completely like narcissistic position is seeing other creators just. Handle it like people who have their heads screwed on, like clearly people like Judd Logic and Kramer and all that, these guys are not stupid, OK, they're clever people. Clever people, but watching them just do all these things that are just so off the mark, like with Kramer literally fucking doing like the body shame jokes against Steven and stuff like that. Like making fun of him for the leaks that are like just him and stuff like that. And then Judd Logic who just can't stop calling him a rapist. I just feel like, God, like, am I really the only person who could do this job in a responsible way like it could handle this situation? But. To be fair, I haven't watched everyone else's. I haven't watched like that much of J-Stock streams or whatever else. So don't know. Maybe they're doing fine. I just have no idea. Literally, I'm fucking just like.
But now I'm just going to stream politics and pretend this doesn't exist on stream. Sorry if that makes you upset. Sorry if that makes you think I'm being a cuck or whatever. Just like I've got very good reasons, reasons that are incomprehensible to anyone who's annoyed at me. So fuck off. All right. Yeah, we're going to go back to that's it done. That took too long. Fuck.
How are you doing mentally? Ah, You're raw. We're doing good. Surprisingly okay. I think if this had happened to me six months ago or even two months ago, it did happen two months ago. I think if this had all happened just like not that long ago, I would have been handling a lot worse. I think I've definitely been taking care of myself in a much better way. Like, so this is affecting me, but it's not affecting me as bad as it could have. If I was in a worse state. Sorry for asking that question. I just want to stop being harmed by his community. That was a stupid question to ask. I mean, I can only give you my word, you know. All I have is my word and my balls. I don't break them. Jeez. I'll give you my balls next if you ask nicely. I don't know. It's a joke.
Thoughts on the Adnani loyalists in your moderation team. Who the fuck is Adnani? What's that even? When will you upload more essay content? Bro. What? Oh, yeah. I was supposed to do that, wasn't I? Definitely being mad at people. He propped up because they gave him zero charitability. Empathy is understandable. For example, Jstlk brought back Max and love. Yeah, I know. I know he's and obviously you're in that state. The only people you're going to hear are the people calling you like a rapist, Epstein fucking pedophile and all that, which is why, you know. Mob justice is pretty cringe. Yeah. Even though there are, like, I don't know if it would help him to understand that there are other people out there who would like just want him to admit he fucked up, figure out whatever the fuck's going on legally, and then go from there. But what can you do?
Did he not admit if you ask him, he said he didn't admit shit. So. Boy chooses his words carefully. Why am I still talking? Fuck you, chat. Fuck you guys. I'm just waiting for someone and chat to give me something to okay. All right. Stop asking me legal questions. The answer is I most likely I don't know.
Okay. Okay. Stream notes. You reckon you'll start debating anytime soon? Maybe. Horace, I don't know why you keep asking that same question. I don't even know what's in relation to anymore. What the fuck? Learn a box works in mysterious ways. Is that what I'm doing? Am I making people suspicious? Yeah, Iran.
Whoa. Tell you what I did do. Oh, God, I'm so proud of myself. I am. I finally finished learning. The third movement of Pathetic Beethoven's Pathetic. I know all the move. I know the every note. A lot of it's not up to speed, but I know every note now. Some of them only playing at like 40 BPM. But we're getting there.
Show us please. No, I'm going to show you me playing it badly. God, I can show you me playing it like. Yeah, 40 BPM, but. Play the parts, you know. I know the whole thing, but I would just be playing it really slowly and badly. But I know all the notes, okay? That's been nice. Did you watch Ryan's content nuke? Nope.
There's a whole nother. Barely have any space in my brain for. This one thing, so probably just leaving it that way. Okay, are we ready to make a smooth transition? And also, just so you guys know, I'm still probably going to leave in the discord. We have a drama channel. I'm still going to probably be okay. Or I've told my mods to not go fucking ham on people who are sincerely asking like. Questions about the destiny pixie thing, even if they imply like. Even if they. Are. In favor of destiny. I'm okay. People want to bring up like the odd down. That they have or whatever in good faith. I can't say how long my patience for that is going to last. But for now, you guys can. Don't I don't want you guys to be afraid of like discussing it or whatever, like. Obviously, there are red lines, but. Use your brain, you'll know what those are. If you've already been banned for it, you can give me an unbanned request and tell me what you said or asked. But, you know, same with other things. Trying to loosen up the moderation a little bit.
Try it at 200 BPM for us. You'll surprise yourself in Scotland. You don't do anything at 200 BPM without warming up. Okay, my hands are cold right now. I'm going to get started.
Fumble. Fuck. See my patience. This question, this point here, Pixie fired first. What the fuck does that even mean? What the fuck does that mean? Like Jesus. Patience. Oh, no.