You said this in response to me saying that “gender affirming medicine” hasn’t changed much in four years. Penile inversion vaginoplasty was invented in the 1960s by Dr. Georges Burou in France. They’re
still employing that technique. Can you
name some new medical technique that came out in the last four years?
It suggests that she’s either got an autistic fixation on these people
It’s not “suggested”, that is a
fact.
there’s no one new in the pipeline because the crisis is ending.
That’s just false. The
U.S. Supreme Court is hearing debates over whether Tennessee is allowed to ban child mutilation. They’re not discussing getting rid of “gender affirming care” as a whole. They are debating whether a state has a right to stop it in their own territory.
This is still very much an issue in the States - and it’s worse in Commonwealth countries. Trump
promised to ban this stuff for kids, but he could flake out. Even
if he follows through on his promise, that does nothing about adults like Keffals, Elliot Fong Jones, etc. These are men who will continue to harass and abuse women and manipulate barely-legal teen boys into making themselves sick.
Let’s say you’re right and God Emperor of Mankind Donald J. Trump bans all tranny shit for adults and kids… we still have many people who are hooked on these drugs, who are deformed, and who will need special care. It may not be on the front page, but this will be an issue for decades. It’s gonna be like when Reagan letting all the retards out of the asylum.
A much more likely outcome is, as someone else said, that as the gender critical movement gains traction, people like Ex will end up on the other side of legitimacy, whereas people like Gluck and Ngo will probably get careers out of it (one hopes).
I’m not sure if that has picked up all of her Substack posts?
Is that a thing Substack does? Because I’m happy to retract my statement if anyone has anything from Ex about this woman / Gruffin after October 3rd to 13th of this year.
The other issue is that Gruffin’s mom is grieving. There are things that are legally permissible but not socially acceptable.
You mean like pooning out your 13-14 year old daughter?
Ex shouldn’t have made her convo with Gruffin’s mom public
The mom shouldn’t be shilling for an ideology that killed her kid.
Ex shouldn’t have made her convo with Gruffin’s mom public and monetized it on Substack etc
Did she monetize it? Anyway, while I was trying to verify this, I saw a post from Ex:
Archive.
Everyone in this thread could have proven me wrong at the beginning about whether Ex was still harping on Gruffin if they just posted this. As for the monetization, yeah, it looks like you’re right and she monetizes the early release of content.
It makes the gender critical/terf movement look bad.
She’s not a big enough name to do that. Jim Sterling went after
Posie Parker, Julie Bindel, and Maya Forstater, for example. I know that could be explained by their collective Bri’ishness, but most American lefties I see focus their ire on Blanchard and Bailey. I have never seen a tranny / Breadtuber / whatever you wanna call them discuss Ex, besides
Isaac Uncooked / Cluniac.
It’s really unlikely Gruffin’s mom is at all like Jeanette Jennings,
She still hideously failed her child and now she’s shilling for the thing that killed her.
the Left says “these terfs are terrible bullies” and what Sierra does plays right into that.
The “bullying” argument falls flat when their side is cheating in women’s sports and occupying women’s prisons.
Saying BC made her trans is just bizarre.
It depends why the person wants it. A woman who wants to be good at her job is a different matter than a pooner who wants to stop menstruating. It’s the same thing with mastectomies or puberty blockers. There are legitimate medical applications of these procedures and then there are troons who want them just because.
Sierra is just trying to get attention.
That’s why I thought the “detransitioner” as opposed to “desister” label was a rhetorical ploy on her part. However, I was sort of okay with it because trannies
also argue that anyone who wants to be the opposite sex, regardless of whether they medically transitioned, are still truly trans. If that’s how they define it, then why couldn’t someone say, “I identify as a woman”, pause, and then say, “I’m a man, I detransitioned, you have to listen to my lived experience.” People have been doing that bit since forever and while I don’t like it, I
get it.
I wasn't interested in the CAIS argument and still am not
Then why did you bring it up?
Sierra has never posted definitive proof of why she lost her YT channel. So no-one but her and YT has any "proof" of the real reason, including you.
But I’m not the one using that story as an example to demonstrate a point, you are.
I don't watch her videos.
And I don’t read Substack. I still
googled it.
I'm talking about her Twitter.
I don’t have Xitter and never have.
I have not once seen her instruct her Twitter audience not to harass any of her subjects. I'm not going to go and screen shoot her entire Twitter in order to prove the absence of something, thanks very much.
I like how the goal posts shifted from “she incited her fans to go after people” to “she didn’t tell her fans not to harass people”. Well,
she did tell them that. I archived it in the previous post.
I'm starting to suspect this too
I think I’ll just leave this thread. Sorry for interrupting your circle jerk, gentlemen, I’ll let you go back to defending Transhausen parents who mutilated and killed their own children. This lack of nuance is the sort of
retardation that puberty blockers induce. Archived below under Hayes 2017.