Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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But very generally speaking:
When there is NO trade left between Russia and the west, war becomes the only option for resource exchange, which is what they want.
In that case, Europe is super-fucked.

Even a third rate country like Algeria has 600 T90 tanks in their army. That’s more than Germany, The UK and the Netherlands combined.

(That’s not counting their older T72 tanks.)

Turkey could roll up to Vienna and re-ottomanize all of Southern Europe.
 
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So what does that mean in simple terms?
50% goes to a 'fund to rebuild Ukraine', the other 50% goes?
Goes to the USA to do whatever the USA wants. Which could be rebuild Ukraine, for awhile, who knows.

Or it could go to a US sovereign wealth fund. It looks to me like the Big D got much of what he wanted.
 
Goes to the USA to do whatever the USA wants. Which could be rebuild Ukraine, for awhile, who knows.

Or it could go to a US sovereign wealth fund. It looks to me like the Big D got much of what he wanted.
I bet the only "security guarantees" Zelensky really wanted was assurance of a safe life in exile in France. Won't be long now.
 
There are several weeks until the signing ceremony.
If he fucking backs out or tries to re-negotiate one more time, breaking the agreement he has with Trump ...
So what if he does sign it? Hasn't Ukraine reneged on every single international agreement they've made since independence? Seems like it. They've even got a legit excuse with an illegitimate President signing the deal.

[EDIT: LOL @ the other thread right on cue "We can always renegotiate it later!" Never change hohols, never change.]
 
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So what if he does sign it? Hasn't Ukraine reneged on every single international agreement they've made since independence? Seems like it. They've even got a legit excuse with an illegitimate President signing the deal.
I don't think the Ukrainians are dumb enough to risk getting spit-roasted by the US and Russia at the same time.
 
From what I've read, it's $250K for a 6 month term in Ukraine. That's life changing money in Colombia, over 20 years worth of a median wage down there. Even with the extremely high risk of getting killed by the Russians, being sent on suicide missions by your employers so they don't have to pay you, and being executed for desertion for refusing such orders, the pay is still good enough that it attracts the violent and desperate. I've even heard that surviving your deployment isn't enough, as one flight back to Bogita from Kiev got diverted to Caracas, where the mercs were arrested and sent to Russia.

I've also heard that plenty of Colombians are telling their countrymen to head over to Sudan instead and fight alongside the RSF rebels instead of Ukraine.
Yep

It is INSANELY good money and a good deal of the Mercs just sit in a trench in a quiet part of the front or do stuff behind the lines and it's not really dangerous.

Look at all of the Western war tourists who have miraculously survived 3 years of war....
 
With Trump taking over and offering a deal to Russia, the USA gets to pull out of the Ukraine war, while keeping Europe and Russia locked in conflict against each other.
Good theory, but native Western Europeans aren't gonna die fighting Russia while their parents, siblings, and kids are being raped by muslims and africans. What will happen then?
But I don't know, maybe 80 years of propaganda really turned larger half of the population into goycattle.

the US is systematically trying to take out all of China's potential allies for a future conflict
Disagree here. Musk's factories are in China. Every other techbro affiliated with Trump does business in China. It'd suicidal for Trump to try to challenge China. Among 3 super powers, China is really just a huge factory.

What I think is really happening here:
Since 1960s (Six-Day War) the US was always ZOG first, even despite the infamous USS Liberty incident.
Jews really like sending white boys to die in the desert so Isaac Shlomoberg can troon their children out back at home.

Well, anyways. Russia became a huge supporter of Iran and gave them modern equipment that allowed them to attack Israel and arm Hamas.
Recent ceasefire deal between Bibi and Hamas confirmed that Russia-backed Iran is too strong.
Therefore, the president of the United States Benjamin Netanyahu decided to lure Russia away from Iran.

NATO bases in Europe are mainly used to protect Israel, but if Russia becomes Israel-friendly, they have no reason to keep them. Russia can keep both Europe and Iran in check.

This will allow the country with the biggest debt in the world, the United States, pull out of Europe and save a huge amount of money. The money will be spent on Israel and the US military recruitment program, so expect more white boys and girls in army ads.

The goal here is to collect as much resources and white people to send all of them to die for Greater Israel.
 

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Meh… Russia has already assumed those money are gone. It won’t hurt them.

The payback should be funny to watch though. The money is handled by Euroclear. Who also does business in jursdictions that isn’t under EU law.

Such as Hong Kong.

Russia could retaliate by suing them, throwing the whole international money system into turmoil.
I guess that is more realistic. I was thinking if Putin went Total Banker Death and nuked the City of London, we all know they deserve it.
 
This fucking kike forcibly conscripted hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to die in a bloody brother war just for him to sell off all of the nations resources to big daddy America in the end. All he had to do was stop sniffing coke and make diplomacy with Russia instead of wasting hundreds of billions of American and European dollars in a war destined for failure. What an absolute piece of shit. If anyone deserves the Gaddafi treatment, it's definitely him.
 
People talk about Russia not making any concessions, after they lost hundreds of thousands of men, much of their military equipment, and annihilated their economy. What more do people want? A million more dead Russians?
Yes. So many people are too buried in the "Good Guys/Bad Guys" narrative that they think their side has to come out ahead in the end, no matter what. It wouldn't be fair otherwise, right Unfortunately, that just opens up the sentiment among them that obviously they will get a second shot at this, and they'll 'fix' it that time, for sure. Just gotta wait for the sequel for the good guys to finally win.
 
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