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A Cardboard Box said:
The total spending in 2024 was $6.752 trillion, revenue was $4.919 trillion. Let's assume the total bullshit claim that Trump can reduce spending by $2 trillion, which even he and Musk said that if they're lucky they will get half of that. That will put us at $4.752 trillion vs $4.919 trillion revenue with current taxes. Assuming we have a truly balanced budget and we reduce taxes by 20%, we would have to make up a deficit of $817 billion, which means we'd have to sell 163,400 "gold cards" a year.
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Your argument only works if Gold Cards are the only way to make up the difference. The reality is that you want to create multiple streams of revenue. This is how you take much of the burden off the tax payer.
 
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curbside2 said:
It’s retarded to you because you are Down syndrome optimistic. We’re literally never going to have a president stop letting immigrants in. My point is that if we’re going to let them in (and we always will) then at least reduce the burden of the tax payer. Ironically you’re the one coping by imagining the ethnostate that will never happen.
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So are the Trumpniggers officially adopting the stance of "it's okay to let in tons of foreigners as long as the bribe the federal government?"

Oh my how the mighty have fallen. If Trump eliminated minimum wage and opened up the borders entirely you would support him because "someone has to do the dirty work Americans won't."

"Feds are evil except when they're collecting solicited bribes from foreigners."
 
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I'm going to take issue with the way people are using the word "bribe" here. A bribe isn't paid into a system, it's paid to a person. If I'm 16 and want to get into a 21+ show, I bribe the bouncer with a Benjamin I stole from dad's wallet. That money goes directly into his pocket and the venue doesn't see a penny from it. When you pay the system, like, if the venue had a $100 ticket for a specific under-21 section of the venue, that's just business.

I'm not saying anything one way or the other on the Gold Card, I don't know enough about the current system to comment on it, but if that's a bribe then I'm also bribing Costco for my groceries every time I go there and accidentally spend hundreds.
 
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curbside2 said:
Your argument only works if Gold Cards are the only way to make up the difference. The reality is that you want to create multiple streams of revenue. This is how you take much of the burden off the tax payer.
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My argument is also extremely optimistic for government budget cuts. My argument could easily work if you reduce the amount of money saved to $1tr and added $1tr of additional revenue from tariffs or whatever.
 
Getting mad over the "Gulf of Mexico" thing doesn't make much sense, considering that Mexico is within the continent of "North America", and the gulf should be "Gulf of America". I always thought it was kind of stupid that it was named "Gulf of Mexico", considering a good portion of the gulf's coastline is along the United States' border.
 
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indomitable snowman said:
Trump just announced a "Gold Card" A green card you can get for $5 million or so.
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Trump just announced a "Gold Card" A green card you can get for $5 million or so.
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This is genius. If 7,000,000 people exploit this then we pay our debt off.
 
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A Cardboard Box said:
So are the Trumpniggers officially adopting the stance of "it's okay to let in tons of foreigners as long as the bribe the federal government?"

Oh my how the mighty have fallen. If Trump eliminated minimum wage and opened up the borders entirely you would support him because "someone has to do the dirty work Americans won't."

"Feds are evil except when they're collecting solicited bribes from foreigners."
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Thinking realistically isn’t “adopting”. I’m saying that a percentage of immigrants are going to be let in. No President is going to stop that. Might as well help unburden the tax payer.

I’m frankly exhausted by the 100% isolationist and death to Israel doom posters. That shit is never going to happen. You’re living in the horse shoe theory conservative version of Reddit if you think it will.
 
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I get what people are saying about her, but I can't watch that, her hair looks so disgusting.

Edit: On the gold card stuff, I wonder realistically how many people might come in on that. It's likely not to affect demographics heavily, but those who come will be wealthy elites and likely to have outsize influence. I assume the US is already corrupt/sensible enough that if you have enough money and the state department doesn't have a reason to hate you, you can buy your way in, so my biggest problem is the fixed price tag. I'd prefer an announcement that individuals profiteering on immigration will be punished, but the government will haggle with oligarchs to let them in and the money has to go directly to paying down the federal debt.
 
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A Cardboard Box said:
So are the Trumpniggers officially adopting the stance of "it's okay to let in tons of foreigners as long as the bribe the federal government?"
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the thought is that if you can afford 5 million dollars, you're probably not about to go shit in the street and collect welfare and foodstamps. how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
 
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With the "Gold Card" program in mind here is a paper by the International Monetary Fund that was made to study the drivers and effects of Residency and Citizenship by Investment programs.

Here is the conclusion it came to:
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A Cardboard Box said:
So are the Trumpniggers officially adopting the stance of "it's okay to let in tons of foreigners as long as the bribe the federal government?"

Oh my how the mighty have fallen. If Trump eliminated minimum wage and opened up the borders entirely you would support him because "someone has to do the dirty work Americans won't."

"Feds are evil except when they're collecting solicited bribes from foreigners."
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How many foreigners have 5 million dollars to burn?
 
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the thought is that if you can afford 5 million dollars, you're probably not about to go shit in the street and collect welfare and foodstamps. how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
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I understand the thought, but why is this preferable to the EB5 program? Why is cutting a check to a federal slush fund preferable to actually investing in the US economy?
curbside2 said:
I’m frankly exhausted by the 100% isolationist and death to Israel doom posters. That shit is never going to happen. You’re living in the horse shoe theory conservative version of Reddit if you think it will.
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>It was never about stopping immigration
>It was never about deporting all the illegals
>It was never about balancing the budget
>It was never about not getting involved in foreign wars
>It was never about lowering inflation
>It was never about lowering the cost of living

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How many foreigners have 5 million dollars to burn?
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"It's okay to let in people that don't match our values as long as they have money"
 
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